Oh brother

[Matthias]

Oh brother.

Where art thou?

 

[2bme]

Where art thou?

Ecclesiastes 1:18
18For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief.

 

[TazzJazz]

But Christianity also has a lot of blood on its hands.

That would be apostate Christendom. Unfortunately, that is the majority.

But those who are obedient to Christ, don't get involved in the world's conflicts. -- John 15:18,19; James 1:27; 4:4; Matthew 5:44

...the inevitable destiny of both doors.

There are only two outcomes for everyone; either life, or death. No torment.... that is a construct of apostate Christendom (^above^).

 

[2bme]

That would be apostate Christendom. Unfortunately, that is the majority.

But those who are obedient to Christ, don't get involved in the world's conflicts. -- John 15:18,19; James 1:27; 4:4; Matthew 5:44


There are only two outcomes for everyone; either life, or death. No torment.... that is a construct of apostate Christendom (^above^).

Could you explain to me why anyone has to believe something that is real? Do we really need to believe thing's we know are real?

 

[2bme]

:Because when do I know something is real and need to believe it's real at the same time? Please answer this.

 

[2bme]

Is Jesus known to be real because you must believe he is real. It's strange because I'm expected to believe that I know something because I believe in something.

 

[2bme]

You human being's are never going to work out your differences if you only care for your right to believe. This universe doesn't care for our belief's. Wishing on a star doesn't actually guarantee an outcome.

 

[2bme]

God is not in controll. This universe is.

 

[2bme]

Nothing is coming to save us other than learning how to rescue ourselves from we believe.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Okay then. If that is true for you why do need to constantly defend this big and powerful God when someone questions what you believe?
When you claim your God is big and all powerful, why do you think you need to stick up for someone who's bigger and more powerful than all.

Those people who reject the Lord will stand before Him as He judges them and tells them they will be spending eternity in hell, they can argue this point with Him then if they'd like.

 

[soberxp]

You say your God is bigger than anything in the universe. You say your God is more powerful than anything I could imagine. Okay then. If that is true for you why do need to constantly defend this big and powerful God when someone questions what you believe?
When you claim your God is big and all powerful, why do you think you need to stick up for someone who's bigger and more powerful than all.

Look at it this way:

It's like you have a bigger brother in your family who you know would stick up for you in a heartbeat if he found out someone was messing around with you. Wouldn't he go to the place himself and deal with those people, since he is a bigger brother who's also tougher than those bullies who are causing you grief. When he turns up and warns them to back off for fear of consequences, naturally they should know to be careful where not to tread in the future. It's not like you need to do anything in that situation other than tell your bigger brother what is going on.

But that's not you in this situation with a big and powerful God. Is it?

He has been there all along, without needing to defend himself. It's just that humans always try to understand and defend things in their own way.
God has always been on the side of those who follow His truth. I don't think I am that person because I feel that sometimes I am Rebellious as you.

 

[TazzJazz]

Okay. So what happens if I don't accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior?

Consider this scenario: let's just say like everyone else, you die, without accepting Jesus' ransom sacrifice. But then, in the future, you are brought back to life by Jesus (given a second chance). You also see your parents, grandparents, and their parents. Everyone living in peace, with all wickedness gone. How would you feel, then?

 

[Riven]

Consider this scenario: let's just say like everyone else, you die, without accepting Jesus' ransom sacrifice. But then, in the future, you are brought back to life by Jesus (given a second chance). You also see your parents, grandparents, and their parents. Everyone living in peace, with all wickedness gone. How would you feel, then?

I would feel good, I think.

 

[TazzJazz]

I would feel good, I think.

Well you see this is the future awaiting mankind! Once those issues that were raised in the Garden of Eden are settled, God will begin ruling over the entire Earth, through His Kingdom in the hands of Christ as its King. (Mathew 6:9,10) The Resurrection is only one of the blessings.

And here's the thing: its not far off! We are in the Last Days of this godless world now! *** And there are people living now, in these Last Days, whom Jesus promised will never die! (John 11:24-26) But showing faith is required.

Wouldn't you find it thrilling to live through the end of this system and be there in person to welcome back your dead loved ones?
(Imagine meeting all of your GGGGGGGGGGrandparents! You have 2,048 of 'em, BTW.)

*** = We can discuss the evidence that we are living in the last days, later, if you'd like.