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The Bible is the Final Authority. Not the MaryCult.
As I said you're no authority on the bible that I recognize. You people believe in things not in the bible and ignore things that are. I have no regard for you nor for your opinion of me or Scripture. You follow the looney little monk and you have the temerity to insult others.
 
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I notice you entirely ignored the second portion of my post. How protestant you. The thing you people can't seem to grasp is I don't recognize you're authority to definitely state what Scripture says. I know you think you speak authoritatively on Scripture but that's just relevant to me. Sorry

Indeed? Your one-liners bereft of scriptural backing shows just how weak your position really is.

Please see above that I am not the one who said anything about the death of Christ being the basis for all people being saved. That must have been someone else that the second half of your post addressed. It wasn't me. If you're talking about some other post, then please state the number of the post.

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As I said you're no authority on the bible that I recognize.

Why would i care?

Listen, your cult teaches that the bible is secondary to their "Traditions" & their "Church Fathers teachings".
The NT says that : "Your Traditions have made the word of God, useless" to people who are decieved by those traditions.
This is why you feel the way you do and have the attitude you maintain.
 
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Why would i care?

Listen, your cult teaches that the bible is secondary to their "Traditions" & their "Church Fathers teachings".
The NT says that : "Your Traditions have made the word of God, useless" to people who are decieved by those traditions.
This is why you feel the way you do and have the attitude you maintain.

The RCC has long since chosen Peter as their apostle, not Paul, who was THE apostle to the Gentiles and to Jews today, which is almost all of them and most here. The RCC following rejects what Jesus of the Bible established as THE apostle to the Gentiles. The fabricated Jesus' of the world and mere religion is as fickle as a chameleon lizard, changing colors to match whatever it's up against, with ecumenicalism as the main thrust of Vaticanism. The RCC still hates us Jews, so we have no regard for their religion. After all, the Vatican, during Hitler's time, sided with Hitler, and so the hatred the Vatican has always had for Israel is not at all a surprise to us.

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Indeed? Your one-liners bereft of scriptural backing shows just how weak your position really is.

Please see above that I am not the one who said anything about the death of Christ being the basis for all people being saved. That must have been someone else that the second half of your post addressed. It wasn't me. If you're talking about some other post, then please state the number of the post.

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I mentioned a whole reference to Matthew's gospel outlining what it says about who inherits the kingdom. Now I been through enough rodeos with you people and your schtick is very old and tired.
 

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Why would i care?

Listen, your cult teaches that the bible is secondary to their "Traditions" & their "Church Fathers teachings".
The NT says that : "Your Traditions have made the word of God, useless" to people who are decieved by those traditions.
This is why you feel the way you do and have the attitude you maintain.
I didn't say you should care. There is precisely the reason I cant take anything you say seriously. You cant accurately understand what someone wrote to you 2 hours ago but somehow you're an authority of what someone wrote 2,000 years ago?
I maintain the attitude with you people that I do because you aren't entitled to anything better. Is that clear enough for you? You want "context"? I'm happy to talk to anyone but I won't take anyone's garbage.
 

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I didn't say you should care.

You want to keep telling us that you wont take us seriously,........so, why should we care.?

Understand?
I maintain the attitude with you people that I do because you aren't entitled to anything better.

Are you claiming you are not a Catholic?
Then what are you?

So, You maintain an attitude because you are the member of a Religion that esteeems itself as the authority over the bible, and adds to the bible and will tell you that they should because they teach that the bible is just some of the truth, and they need to add the rest of THEIRS to the bible, to complete it.
So, that attitude of religious Pride... is the same one you have that you execute, when people who love the bible, and can teach the NT.......someone like me.... finds you here.
 
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I mentioned a whole reference to Matthew's gospel outlining what it says about who inherits the kingdom. Now I been through enough rodeos with you people and your schtick is very old and tired.

I agree with you that it's best to tuck tail and run, because none of us has any hope of entering the earthly kingdom because the kingdom isn't for us who are of the body of Christ. The kingdom will be ruled over by Israel. We in the body of Christ are destined for Heavenly places, not the Millennial Kingdom nor the kingdom on the New Earth.

So, failing to rightly divide the word of truth understandably causes the massive confusions that cloud your understanding.

Blessings as you run.

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You want to keep telling us that you wont take us seriously,........so, why should we care.?

Understand?


Are you claiming you are not a Catholic?
Then what are you?

So, You maintain an attitude because you are the member of a Religion that esteeems itself as the authority over the bible, and adds to the bible and will tell you that they should because they teach that the bible is just some of the truth, and they need to add the rest of THEIRS to the bible, to complete it.
So, that attitude of religious Pride... is the same one you have that you execute, when people who love the bible, and can teach the NT.......someone like me.... finds you here.
I understand perfectly well, what you cant seem to grasp is you don't speak authoritatively about Scripture even though you all think you do. You are not an authority I recognize because as I already told you, you believe things not in Scripture while you ignore things that are. That alone made you someone no one should listen to.
 

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I agree with you that it's best to tuck tail and run, because none of us has any hope of entering the earthly kingdom because the kingdom isn't for us who are of the body of Christ. The kingdom will be ruled over by Israel. We in the body of Christ are destined for Heavenly places, not the Millennial Kingdom nor the kingdom on the New Earth.

So, failing to rightly divide the word of truth understandably causes the massive confusions that cloud your understanding.

Blessings as you run.

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I'm not running. You people believe a heresy and it amuses me.
 

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You'd never be able to prove what you wrote.......

See, deceived people like you....can only post false innuendo..
You have nothing else to offer @nedsk
This is perfect. So show me your credentials to speak authoritatively on Scripture. Please don't tell me you went to a bible college.
 

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This is perfect. So show me your credentials to speak authoritatively on Scripture. Please don't tell me you went to a bible college.

Here are the basics, regarding why i can deal easily with people who dont believe the bible or use it,... or dont read it, or dont study it, and instead believe what their cult tells them to think...such as.....>>"the bible is not completed, so we add to it for over 1000 yrs, (MaryCult)..anytime we decide to do it, and our decieved sheep all believe us, because we have trained them to trust in "church fathers"... most of all.
We teach them that you need to talk to our Priests, if you have any bible questions, so that we can continue to fill up your mind with our cult theology.

So, im....

1.) Seminary Trained
2.) Secondary Training in Manuscript Evidence regarding "extant" Koine Greek Texts.
3.) Worked in a few positions in a Local Church
4.) Have taught the New Testament on both sides of this world.
5.) Im an Evangelist for about 35 yrs... with a specific anointing to teach the NT (specfically Paul's Doctrine).
 
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Here are the basics, regarding why i can deal easily with people who dont believe the bible or use it,... or dont read it, or dont study it, and instead believe what their cult tells them to think...such as.....>>"the bible is not completed, so we add to it for over 1000 yrs, (MaryCult)..anytime we decide to do it, and our decieved sheep all believe us, because we have trained them to trust in "church fathers"... most of all.
We teach them that you need to talk to our Priests, if you have any bible questions, so that we can continue to fill up your mind with our cult theology.

So, im....

1.) Seminary Trained
2.) Secondary Training in Manuscript Evidence regarding "extant" Koine Greek Texts.
3.) Worked in a few positions in a Local Church
4.) Have taught the New Testament on both sides of this world.
5.) Im an Evangelist for about 35 yrs... with a specific anointing to teach the NT (specfically Paul's Doctrine).

Be careful. All those armchair experts out here who criticize anyone cemetary trained, manuscript aware, church experienced will always elicit varying degrees of dislike for any and all evidence against their pet doctrines taught by the many, many false teaching pastors behind pulpits.

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Be careful. All those armchair experts out here who criticize anyone cemetary trained, manuscript aware, church experienced will always elicit

Im not saying you are stupid, but your post is trying to represent it, authetically, and not just your last one.

So, you can adjust yourself, accordingly. @BeforeThereWas
Thats on you.

Also, consider, that one of the issue with why Christians are confused little self righteous beasts, and want to prove it on Forums......is because they over-esteeem "scholarship" and "the Greek texts"......as compared to the Holy Bible.
God doesn't.

Im not that one., but when someone asks me for my "Training" then im obligated to tell them, some of it.
Maybe you can figure that out....if you think.........long and hard.
Give it a shot. @BeforeThereWas
 
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Im not saying you are stupid, but your post is trying to represent it, authetically, and not just your last one.

So, you can adjust yourself, accordingly. @BeforeThereWas
Thats on you.

Also, consider, that one of the issue with why Christians are confused little self righteous beasts, and want to prove it on Forums......is because they over-esteeem "scholarship" and "the Greek texts"......as compared to the Holy Bible.
God doesn't.

Im not that one., but when someone asks me for my "Training" then im obligated to tell them, some of it.
Maybe you can figure that out....if you think.........long and hard.
Give it a shot. @BeforeThereWas

Your arrogance is indeed spotlighted for all to see.

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Your arrogance is indeed spotlighted for all to see.

Listen,

You posted an attempt to sound clever and insulting, and i cut that off at the root.
Now you want to try to do damage control..., and that has failed.
So, what you need to do, is examine why you have such an attitude problem, and work on that for the rest of your life, as its taken all your life to build it so that its your literal character flaw, as proven by your posts.. @BeforeThereWas
 
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Listen,

You posted an attempt to sound clever and insulting, and i cut that off at the root.
Now you want to try to do damage control..., and that has failed.
So, what you need to do, is examine why you have such an attitude problem, and work on that for the rest of your life, as its taken all your life to build it so that its your literal character flaw, as proven by your posts.. @BeforeThereWas

What exactly are you talking about that I had stated that you interpreted as being "stupid?"

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all things are lawful, but not all things are profitable

can you explain these words of paul for me?

can any Anti OSAS person explain these words?
Yeah its obvious its about meats drinks and days , NOT SINS .
ITS NOT LAWFUL FOR US TO SIN . WHAT LAW OF GOD EVER said ITS LAWFUL FOR ANY TO SIN .
It never has been LAWFUL for any to sin . GUESS GODS LAWS make it lawful TO SIN . NO SIR . NOT even .
This was about meats drinks and days , will worship . NOT sins .