did not need our permission to create us nor except for those with eyes to see not and ears to hear not does He need our permission or those of ours to save us as sinners and even those who reject Him - for this is love that while we were and are still sinners and enemies of God, Jesus died for our sins and enmity - never ending praise and glory to the Saviour of the world and Christians - twinc
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easily said but do you know any - anyway unlike us Christ loves His enemies and commands that we do likewise imho - twinc
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From Romans 5: 9. Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from wrath through Him. 10. For if when we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.
Do I know any what? Believers? Enemies?
I think God hates His enemies; but yes, we are to love our enemies.
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Do you agree with him when he said: '...while we were and are still sinners and enemies of God,.."
We are still enemies of God?
a notice appeared on the outside Church notice board "from now on only sinners are allowed in here" - many hesitated to enter - twinc
We were sinners before we were saved and in that state were enemies of God.
Now as saved Christians we are still sinners.
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So you think 'saved Christians' are enemies of God? Windmillcharge hasn't answered the question either.
James 4:4 says if you are a friend of the world, you are an enemy of God.
Is a believer a friend of the world? No.
Believers have peace with God.
Believers, are fictitious claims by so called Christians just like born again Christians and indwelt and Holy Spirit inspired so called Christians but all three in confrontation and contradiction with Christ, the Church and the bible - Jesus clearly stated that to simply simply believe is simply simply very difficult if not impossible also see Rmns 3:9-20 and 21-31and the Holy Spirit to us as the world is taboo[Jn 14:17] - twinc
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