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Read back and show me where I ever said any such thing.
Your straw man is dead and now you are forced to lie.

More false accusations. I apply every covenant to myself in the Master: each covenant has its purpose, and they overlap, and nothing is done away with, or sidelined, or superseded, or abolished. In fact all the Prophets and the Torah prophesied until Yohanne, so the Torah was not even fully operational and functional until the new Spirit foretold in the Prophet Ezekiel was complete, which was when the Master himself said so, ("It is Finished", meaning his Testimony, the new Spirit of the renewed covenant).
There is only ONE eternal covenant dak, and its via the eternal redemption God secured through Christ, by his own blood.

This is the same teaching Paul presents in Hebrews 13:20, where he states that the Lord was brought back from the dead "through the blood of the everlasting covenant," referring to His own sacrificial blood.

Do you truly believe that the Mosaic Covenant produced Sarah’s eternal children?

And don't play coy dak, you are the one who changed the covenant from Abraham to Moses!

Revelation 14:1–2 Then I looked, and behold, on Mount Zion stood the Lamb, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads.

As a symbol, Mount Zion represents the Abrahamic Covenant, in contrast to Mount Sinai, which stands for the Mosaic Covenant (Galatians 4:24; Hebrews 12:22). Zion is the location Yahweh chose as His dwelling among His people (Deuteronomy 12:11; Psalm 132:14), and it therefore represents the Body of Christ (2 Corinthians 6:16).

If you cannot follow Christ's and Pauls teaching what hope do I have in you listneing?
 

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More falsehood because you do not believe Paul when he says that the Torah is spiritual in Rom 7:14.
Ah there it goes!

I've been waiting for this and it's why you ignored this post


By you writing this, you do not understand the Schoolmaster, or its purpose - I get it now!

Your confusion is at last been revealed.

Galatians 3:19"Why then the law?

It was added because of transgressions...")


You don't understand why the “prosthesis” (προσθήκη), which means “a placing alongside,” “an addition,” or “something added”.

It was "added" AFTER the promise to Abraham to help define sin until the arrival of the promised seed (Christ).

How did God remove the "prosthesis” dak?

I've shown you already
 

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Ah there it goes!

I've been waiting for this and it's why you ignored this post


By you writing this, you do not understand the Schoolmaster, or its purpose - I get it now!

Your confusion is at last been revealed.

Galatians 3:19"Why then the law?

It was added because of transgressions...")


You don't understand why the “prosthesis” (προσθήκη), which means “a placing alongside,” “an addition,” or “something added”.

It was "added" AFTER the promise to Abraham to help define sin until the arrival of the promised seed (Christ).

How did God remove the "prosthesis” dak?

I've shown you already

The following shows that you do not understand because you keep cherry picking passages and statements to make your doctrines. When did transgressions enter? Obviously that was not between the time of Abraham and the giving of the Torah: it was very clearly the first transgression in the Garden, in Gen 3, (as Paul also says, by one man sin entered into the world). But what does he say about death in that same passage? Please pay particular attention to the statement I highlight and give an answer for it, explain it and how it has affected your beliefs and doctrine.

Romans 5:6-14 ASV
6 For while we were yet weak, in due season Christ died for the ungodly.
7 For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: for peradventure for the good man some one would even dare to die.
8 But God commendeth his own love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood, shall we be saved from the wrath of God through him.
10 For if, while we were enemies, we were reconciled to God through the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, shall we be saved by his life;
11 and not only so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.
12 Therefore, as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin; and so death passed unto all men, for that all sinned:—
13 for until the law sin was in the world; but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the likeness of Adam's transgression, who is a figure of him that was to come.

WHY does Paul say that death reigned from Adam until Mosheh instead of saying that death reigned from Adam until Meshiah (Christ)? Do you understand what this means? Once the Torah was given through Mosheh death no longer reigned, (at least in those who received, understood, and practiced the Torah of the Most High). In fact, those to whom the Logos of Elohim has come are called Elohim, (Psalm 82:6, John 10:34-36). You are ranting about things you know nothing about.
 

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14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the likeness of Adam's transgression, who is a figure of him that was to come.

WHY does Paul say that death reigned from Adam until Mosheh instead of saying that death reigned from Adam until Meshiah (Christ)? Do you understand what this means? Once the Torah was given through Mosheh death no longer reigned, (at least in those who received, understood, and practiced the Torah of the Most High). In fact, those to whom the Logos of Elohim has come are called Elohim, (Psalm 82:6, John 10:34-36). You are ranting about things you know nothing about.
You're shifting from one misinterpretation to another, are you aware that you're doing this?

Let’s take a step back and recap: you misquoted Acts 7, overlooking that Stephen's argument was clearly to show the Law came from Sinai, not Jerusalem. And now you've moved into Paul’s argument about the Sin & the Law of Moses (and Israel), but again, missing the point of his argument.

14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the likeness of Adam's transgression, who is a figure of him that was to come (Christ).

Figure dak! - the figure of him is that Moses was a type of Christ NOT Christ himself!

Paul is presenting the following which you didn't bold or highlight conveniently!

Sin reigned from Adam to Christ!

Adam --->Moses (figure & Law & Israel) - - ->Christ (one who is to come)

Firstly, Paul is using Adam & Moses as examples of those who had received the commandment and had sinned (Israel included)!

12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned— 13 for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. Ro 5:12–13.

Problem 1.

Death had dominion over Christ so even he is included in Verse 14! (till the one who is to come)

Romans 6:9 - “We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him.”

Problem 2.


Christ died to sin once

Romans 6:10: - "For the death he died, he (Jesus) died to sin once for all, but the life he lives, he lives to God."

For Christ to die, sin had to be present in his flesh, even though he personally committed no sin. This sin, present in the nature he bore required atonement. Consider Hebrews 9:28: “So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he (Jesus) appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”

What sin is being referred to?

Christ committed none. Therefore, the implication is that at his second coming, unlike the first, he will appear without sinful human nature, having overcome it. If that were not the case, why would Paul emphasize that Christ will return “without sin”? The phrase would be logically unnecessary.

Sin is still sin—whether committed or inherent—and Scripture teaches that “the wages of sin is death.” To argue that Christ did not need atonement because he committed no sin is to misapply Scripture. His victory was not only over personal sinlessness, but also over the very nature he shared with those he came to save.

It's clear you do not understand the Atonement also.
 
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Hebrews 9:28 @dak

so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, NOT to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

Are you one who annually imagines returning to the Temple, hoping the High Priest will come out of the Most Holy Place, because the forgiveness he offers is only temporary and incomplete?

Learn of the true Gospel, and await the return of the true High Priest from heaven, who will bring an eternal life, once-for-all cleansing and forgiveness of all sins!
 

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You're shifting from one misinterpretation to another, are you aware that you're doing this?

Let’s take a step back and recap: you misquoted Acts 7, overlooking that Stephen's argument was clearly to show the Law came from Sinai, not Jerusalem. And now you've moved into Paul’s argument about the Sin & the Law of Moses (and Israel), but again, missing the point of his argument.

14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam until Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the likeness of Adam's transgression, who is a figure of him that was to come (Christ).

Figure dak! - the figure of him is that Moses was a type of Christ NOT Christ himself!

Paul is presenting the following which you didn't bold or highlight conveniently!

Sin reigned from Adam to Christ!

Adam --->Moses (figure & Law & Israel) - - ->Christ (one who is to come)

Firstly, Paul is using Adam & Moses as examples of those who had received the commandment and had sinned (Israel included)!

12 Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned— 13 for sin indeed was in the world before the law was given, but sin is not counted where there is no law. Ro 5:12–13.

Problem 1.

Death had dominion over Christ so even he is included in Verse 14! (till the one who is to come)

Romans 6:9 - “We know that Christ, being raised from the dead, will never die again; death no longer has dominion over him.”

Problem 2.


Christ died to sin once

Romans 6:10: - "For the death he died, he (Jesus) died to sin once for all, but the life he lives, he lives to God."

For Christ to die, sin had to be present in his flesh, even though he personally committed no sin. This sin, present in the nature he bore required atonement. Consider Hebrews 9:28: “So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he (Jesus) appear the second time without sin unto salvation.”

What sin is being referred to?

Christ committed none. Therefore, the implication is that at his second coming, unlike the first, he will appear without sinful human nature, having overcome it. If that were not the case, why would Paul emphasize that Christ will return “without sin”? The phrase would be logically unnecessary.

Sin is still sin—whether committed or inherent—and Scripture teaches that “the wages of sin is death.” To argue that Christ did not need atonement because he committed no sin is to misapply Scripture. His victory was not only over personal sinlessness, but also over the very nature he shared with those he came to save.

It's clear you do not understand the Atonement also.

Exactly as suspected.

Come back when you have learned to stop twisting scripture for your own advantage.
 

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Exactly as suspected.

Come back when you have learned to stop twisting scripture for your own advantage.
You only highight the parts you want to twist - you have been caught out dak!

And you know it...

Where to from here? Ignore more posts? Ignore the inspired arguments and wrest them to your own gain?
 

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Hebrews 9:28 @dak

so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, NOT to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

"Not to deal with sin"??? Is that an actual translation or your own concoction?

Are you one who annually imagines returning to the Temple,

I am a temple of Elohim: aren't you?

hoping the High Priest will come out of the Most Holy Place, because the forgiveness he offers is only temporary and incomplete?

Apparently you think so but again, if so, you would be wrong again.

Learn of the true Gospel, and await the return of the true High Priest from heaven, who will bring an eternal life, once-for-all cleansing and forgiveness of all sins!

That has already happened in my case, but as for you, remember the warning: your apocalypse will not be televised. :clmSmlx
 

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@dak

What I've learned from our discussion is your Bible contains Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers & Deuteronomy, you have one covenant which was added because of transgression until Christ was raised up in the line of Adam. But the Abrahamic and Eternal Covenants are not included.

You have exchanged your birthright for the Mosaic Covenant, which cannot save.
You fail to recognize the coming Marriage of the Lamb to his bride.
You’re unable to engage with the events leading up to and following that moment because you hold to an unbiblical “heaven-going” belief which you know you cannot support.
You have failed to grasp how the Law of Moses was taken out of the way, via it's curse upon a righteous man.
You show little to no understanding of how God achieved victory over sin’s flesh in His Son; as a result, the true tabernacle remains unknown to you.

No doubt I could add more, but that already stands as a formidable list of errors and misunderstandings from someone who believes they know the truth.
 

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I am a temple of Elohim: aren't you?
You don’t possess the covenant or the faith of Abraham, so how can you be counted among Sarah’s children while still clinging to a Law that condemns you to death?
 

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That has already happened in my case, but as for you, remember the warning: your apocalypse will not be televised. :clmSmlx
You’re in a tough spot, Dak, all I can hope is that your mind will be more open when he returns.
 

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@dak

What I've learned from our discussion is your Bible contains Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers & Deuteronomy, you have one covenant which was added because of transgression until Christ was raised up in the line of Adam. But the Abrahamic and Eternal Covenants are not included.

You have exchanged your birthright for the Mosaic Covenant, which cannot save.
You fail to recognize the coming Marriage of the Lamb to his bride.
You’re unable to engage with the events leading up to and following that moment because you hold to an unbiblical “heaven-going” belief which you know you cannot support.
You have failed to grasp how the Law of Moses was taken out of the way, via it's curse upon a righteous man.
You show little to no understanding of how God achieved victory over sin’s flesh in His Son; as a result, the true tabernacle remains unknown to you.

No doubt I could add more, but that already stands as a formidable list of errors and misunderstandings from someone who believes they know the truth.

All of the scripture twisting, scripture rejection, and the murders now proceeding from your heart and spewing out of your mouth, (Mat 15:18-19), only prove that you cannot handle being proven wrong by the scripture, which is what has happened here over and over and over again. Anyone who actually goes back and reads our discussion here will see that this has been the case up until now, and that now you simply cannot handle it anymore and have gone off the deep end multiplying and spewing out false accusations to nurture your wounded ego. I suspect that most here already know your testimony cannot be trusted by way of their own experiences with you in other conversations.
 

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WHY does Paul say that death reigned from Adam until Mosheh instead of saying that death reigned from Adam until Meshiah (Christ)?

Paul said that death reined from Adam to Moses, because "Grace and Truth, came by Jesus".
He is explaining that the OT Old Covenant was replaced, once The Cross of Christ birthed the NT Church.

See, until Jesus the 2nd Adam came, there was no way to escape the "death" that came on all humans because of 1st Adam's sin.
But now that Jesus has been Sacrificed, for the sin of the world... then this "death" can become "I have come to give you LIFE".....>Jesus explains.
And that is to be reconciled to God, as "born again".......a "new Creation" in Christ.
 

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Paul said that death reined from Adam to Moses, because "Grace and Truth, came by Jesus".

Where is the scripture evidence for this statement concerning why Paul says what he says?

He is explaining that the OT Old Covenant was replaced, once The Cross of Christ birthed the NT Church.

Again, no scripture evidence that Paul is "explaining that the OT Old Covenant was replaced".

See, until Jesus the 2nd Adam came, there was no way to escape the "death" that came on all humans because of 1st Adam's sin.

Is Paul speaking of physical death or spiritual death in the passage? It makes a big difference.

But now that Jesus has been Sacrificed, for the sin of the world... then this "death" can become "I have come to give you LIFE".....>Jesus explains.

That Life is in his Testimony, which if a man believe and do, and continue therein, then he is on the right true path to becoming born from above. It is not just a simple one-time confession of belief: that initial confession is only the beginning of the walk in Meshiah. And Paul says that the Torah has become our paidagogos, which is a child instructor to lead us into Meshiah, pay heed: "a child instructor", for no father puts his untested babe of child in charge of all his goods. The child must first be tested and tried, and found to be true, and prove his faith/belief, and only then is he worthy of ruling. For though he be master of all as a child, he is nothing more than a servant, and is under tutors and governors, (Torah, Prophets, Writings), until the time appointed of the Father, (Gal 4:1-2), when the child is tested and becomes a man in Meshiah: it is a day which no one knows except for the Father.

And that is to be reconciled to God, as "born again".......a "new Creation" in Christ.

Hebrews 10:35-36 KJV
35 Cast not away therefore your confidence, which hath great recompence of reward.
36 For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.
37 For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and will not tarry. [Hab 2:2-3 LXX]
38 Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him. [Hab 2:4 LXX]
39 But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.

It appears to me that you may still have a vision of trial and testing to endure: the one who endures unto the end, (Mat 10:22, Mat 24:13, Mrk 13:13), and who overcomes, (spoken to all seven assemblies in the Apocalypse), that is when true faith/belief has come, for then it has been tested and proven.
 

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Where is the scripture evidence for this statement concerning why Paul says what he says?

Galatians 3.

Again, no scripture evidence that Paul is "explaining that the OT Old Covenant was replaced".

If you are under the OT Old Covenant, then you are not a Christian, you are an OT Jew.

I dont think you qualify.
But you can keep trying it. @dak

Is Paul speaking of physical death or spiritual death in the passage? It makes a big difference.

None of us but the RAPTURED, "escape physical death".....so, obviously Paul is speaking of the "i came to give you life"... as Jesus said.

All that believe in Jesus , He gives them: = "eternal Life".

That Life is in his Testimony, which if a man believe and do, and continue therein, then he is on the right true path to becoming born from above.

The "Path" to Heaven, Jesus explains in John 14:6... like this.

"""""No person comes to the Father but by ME"""""., because I AM "THE WAY"......to the Father.

So, there is your path... .= Jesus is "THE WAY"..

Now, how do you get on it?

1.) "all who believe in Jesus"...........and then God does this.....>>"Faith is counted by God, as (Christ's imputed) Righteousness", unto the believer.

So, what proves that has happened.?

Jesus said......"you must be born again"........and that is not water baptism.

36 For ye have need of patience, that, after ye have done the will of God, ye might receive the promise.

The "promise" is 2 things.

"The promise of the Spirit", and the Promist of "the inheritance., and they are part of the same promise.

= All the born again become "the temple of the Holy Spirit".. so there is the "promise of the Spirit."

"He that hath not the Spirit of God is none of God's"..

And all the born again, are "Heirs of God", and 'joint heirs with Jesus........so, there is the "promise of the inheritance", manifesting.
This concludes in Heaven.


It appears to me that you may still have a vision of trial and testing to endure: the one who endures unto the end,

Matt 24, is Jesus talking about the Tribulation.....and He says....>"when you see the abomination of Desolation".

So...THAT happens during the Tribulation.......and Jesus had just explained that you have to "endure to the end".. of the Tribulation, to be saved.

Whereas, "in the time of the Gentiles"........and we are in it.......we dont endure........we "receive Salvation" that is a "GIFT"... that Christ has accompished on The Cross., as "God's GIFT of Salvation".
 

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Paul said that death reined from Adam to Moses, because "Grace and Truth, came by Jesus".
He is explaining that the OT Old Covenant was replaced, once The Cross of Christ birthed the NT Church.

See, until Jesus the 2nd Adam came, there was no way to escape the "death" that came on all humans because of 1st Adam's sin.
But now that Jesus has been Sacrificed, for the sin of the world... then this "death" can become "I have come to give you LIFE".....>Jesus explains.
And that is to be reconciled to God, as "born again".......a "new Creation" in Christ.
So lets develop this idea of death reigning from Adam to Christ and from Christ to the end of the Millennial age.

Romans 8:1-3

1 "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.
2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.
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For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh."

The Mosaic Law was unable to bring salvation due to the weakness of human nature. In other words, the Law simply revealed the inherent weakness of the flesh, as it required constant sacrifices that couldn’t fully take away sin. The repeated sacrifices highlighted the ongoing problem: they could not ultimately break the power of sin within human nature.

The Law of Sin and Death is found in this verse "the wages of sin is death" - God decreed if you sin you die!

So what was the Law then?

You now know it was "added" because of trsngression (sin) and that it was meant to be a school master to teach Israel of their need for Messiah.

Not only was it "added" it was also a "shadow"

Hebrews 10:1:

"For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities, it can never, by the same sacrifices that are continually offered every year, make perfect those who draw near." (ESV)

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A shadow can never reveal all the details or nuances of what it represents. Take the Menorah, for example, its intricate details and engravings can’t be fully appreciated by simply looking at a shadow. It wasn’t until Christ was revealed that the deeper meaning and significance of these symbols could be understood. This principle applies to all of the Law. Every element of the Tabernacle’s furnishings, every commandment, and every law—each one was a shadow pointing to something greater. All these details were symbols of the good things that were to come.

What you have is the Shadow which is why every single reply and post of your lacks the substance which is found in Christ.
 

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Galatians 3.

I don't see it: you'll need to be more specific than referring to a whole chapter, quote the teaching and show it from the context.

If you are under the OT Old Covenant, then you are not a Christian, you are an OT Jew.

Again, Paul states that the Torah has become our paidagogos, (a child leader-instructor, Gal 3:24), regardless of whether or not you accept it.

I dont think you qualify.
But you can keep trying it. @dak

You are the judge of who is a Yhudi and who is not? Sorry, that is not up to you and by this you overstep the authority of the Master himself, THE JUDGE.

None of us but the RAPTURED, "escape physical death".....so, obviously Paul is speaking of the "i came to give you life"... as Jesus said.

The so-called "rapture" only serves to prove what I have said. Paul uses harpazo not once but TWICE in the revelation he received which he narrates in 2Cor 12:1-4, and yet none of the "rapturists" ever quote from or discuss that short little four-verse description of that revelation which was obviously a vision, (2Cor 12:1). Study also mount Horeb, the mountain of Elohim, (of above), particularly what is written in Exodus 33:4-6, (I say study because you are not going to get the truth in English translations because they do not understand it for misreading a single prefixed mem particle attached to Horeb).

All that believe in Jesus , He gives them: = "eternal Life".

By his holy Testimony, which is Spirit, (John 6:63), even the Spirit of Grace, (Zec 12:10, Heb 10:29), and therefore anyone who claims his name and does not believe his Testimony insults the Spirit of Grace, (Heb 10:29).

The "Path" to Heaven, Jesus explains in John 14:6... like this.

"""""No person comes to the Father but by ME"""""., because I AM "THE WAY"......to the Father.

So, there is your path... .= Jesus is "THE WAY"..

Yes, I know this and fully agree.

Now, how do you get on it?

1.) "all who believe in Jesus"...........and then God does this.....>>"Faith is counted by God, as (Christ's imputed) Righteousness", unto the believer.

This accounting of faith is obviously from Gen 15:6, the covenant of Abraham, but yet again this proves what I have said and that is because I said it according the scripture and the doctrine taught by the Master to his own disciples and apostles.

The faith/belief accounted to Abram as righteousness in Gen 15:6 was not fulfilled until he was tested, many years later, in Gen 22.

James 2:20-24 KJV
20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? [Gen 22]
22 Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: [Gen 15:6] and he was called the Friend of God.
24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

Abram was tested much later, in Gen 22, and he endured unto the end and overcame. One cannot just feed off the epistles of Paul and ignore the rest of scripture. Without this passage in Yakob, a.k.a. James, the message from both the Torah, the Meshiah, and Paul, is misunderstood.

So, what proves that has happened.?

Jesus said......"you must be born again"........and that is not water baptism.

Slightly touched on that already in this thread: the following contains a double amen, which is a double affirmation, like saying So be it, Truly I say....... in other words the first amen means affirmative, yes.

John 3:4-5
4 Nikodemos says to him, How is a man able to be born, being old? Is he able to enter into the womb of his mother a second time, and to be born?
5 Ι̅Η answered, Amen, amen, I say to you, if anyone not be born of water and of the Spirit, he is not able to enter into the Kingdom of Elohim:

Paraphrase: So be it, (Nikodemos, go back into the womb of your mother(covenant), and relearn everything), truly I say to you, if anyone not be born of water and of the Spirit, he is not able to enter into the Kingdom of Elohim:

If the Prophet Yeshayah can do it, Isa 49:1), and if Nikodemos the Teacher of Yisrael can do it, (he did, and believed, and showed his love for the Master, John 19:39), and if Paul can do it, (Gal 1:15-16), and if the same was true for Timothy, (2 Tim 3:15), then surely we also can do so, if indeed we are willing to hear and believe the statement for what it actually says and means. Paul tells you who is our mother(covenant) in Gal 4:26, (Yerushalem of above), which we have discussed thoroughly here in the last several pages.

And all the born again, are "Heirs of God", and 'joint heirs with Jesus........so, there is the "promise of the inheritance", manifesting.
This concludes in Heaven.

Not according to the author of Hebrews which I quoted, and neither does Paul say that:

Ephesians 1:12-14 KJV
12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
14 Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.

What I have said is basically straight from this statement also: but I don't confine myself only to the writings of Paul, for Paul must also agree with every one else who penned holy writ by the holy Spirit of the Father upon them. If you read Paul in a vacuum you end up making up your own meanings for the things he writes about.

In the above there is the time when one first believes, and is sealed with the holy Spirit of the Promise, but that is not the end all because Paul states that it is the earnest of our inheritance, (which is not much different than earnest money on a house to show that the purchaser is serious about purchasing the house at a later date). In this case you are the house, (temple of the holy Spirit, temple of Elohim), and the day of the coming redemption of the purchased possession (you) is in the future from the time that you first believed and were sealed with the holy Spirit of the Promise.

The Testimony of the Master is Spirit and Life, (again, John 6:63, his words are his Testimony), and likewise also the Spirit of Grace, (see above), and therefore Paul was indeed very likely handing out his Gospel account, (which he calls "my Gospel", which we now know as "Luke", see the OP and what follows), and if so then surely he was handing it out together with the Acts 15 letter from the apostles and brethren at Yerushalem. Thus the earnest, which is in other places also called the earnest of the Spirit, (2Cor 1:22, 2Cor 5:5), is the all-important Testimony of the Meshiah.

Moreover the second reference above, 2Cor 5:5, leads into a discussion about the Bema:

2 Corinthians 5:5-11 KJV
5 Now he that hath wrought us for the selfsame thing is God, who also hath given unto us the earnest of the Spirit.
6 Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:
7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him.
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.

Understand that the final verse quoted, "Knowing therefore the terror of the Master, we persuade men", is Paul straightforwardly telling you that he had already been to the Bema, and thus it happens in this life, not after your carcass dies off, (physical death of the physical body).

Matt 24, is Jesus talking about the Tribulation.....and He says....>"when you see the abomination of Desolation".

So...THAT happens during the Tribulation.......and Jesus had just explained that you have to "endure to the end".. of the Tribulation, to be saved.

Whereas, "in the time of the Gentiles"........and we are in it.......we dont endure........we "receive Salvation" that is a "GIFT"... that Christ has accompished on The Cross., as "God's GIFT of Salvation".

The only question at the moment is are you a dispensationist or a full blown hyper dispy? It's a terrible scourge foisted upon the modern mainstream church.
 
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Again, no scripture evidence that Paul is "explaining that the OT Old Covenant was replaced".
Let us see with what people this covenant so pregnant of wonders is made.

"Behold, the days are coming," says Yahweh, "when I will make a NEW COVENANT with the house of Israel and the house of Judah. It will not be like the covenant (Mosaic) I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand and led them out of the land of Egypt, the covenant they broke, even though I was a faithful husband to them," says the Lord. "But this is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares Yahweh. "I will put My law within them and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they shall be My people. No longer will they teach each other, saying, 'Know the Lord,' because they will all know Me, from the least to the greatest," says Yahweh. "For I will forgive their wickedness and remember their sins no more."

So the question @dak is how was the Old Covenant taken out of the way?

Colossians 2:14 "By canceling the record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross."

How do you understand Paul's word "This (Mosaic Covenant) was set aside.

Why nailing it to the cross?
If it was nailed to the cross how does it relate to the sacrifice of Christ?
 

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"For since the law has but a shadow of the good things to come instead of the true form of these realities, it can never, by the same sacrifices that are continually offered every year, make perfect those who draw near." (ESV) Heb 10:1

Why could the Mosaic Law not make perfect those who drew near?
How in nailing it to the cross did this setting aside the Law enable those in Christ to be made perfect?