Perpetual Motion Machine

[one_christian_warrior]

This discovery (a self generating electricity multiplier)
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I have stumbled upon the
PERPETUAL MOTION machine

Yes,,,,, and even better than perpetual,,, this machine actually makes its own power,
as in – this system gains electrical energy, yessss,,, we can:
let electricity generate itself,,,,,,,,,,,,,

No more dependency on OIL, and the middle east oil supplies,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

= and the world says,
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Now hold on just a moment,,,
I know that this is not a true example of perpetual motion,,,
Because of bearings alone, or should I say, they will wear out eventually,
That is why I added the word “machine” afterward,

This is a man made machine,
Which only mimics perpetual motion,
As it continues to run, seemingly forever, Producing electricity as a bonus,

And how, you might add, did I come up with this, I didn’t, it was God,(Holy Spirit)
Who showed this to me, And I think God deserves all the credit,,,

This is a gift from God,,,
As He has shared this with me,
To share with the world,

maybe it is meant specifically for the tribulation saints,
to be used for heat, light and cooking,
when a fire will not do,
because of the visable smoke,
or the heat signiture that is visable from satilites
when they are trying to stay hidden,
from the evil government forces,
when they try to force everybody,
into taking the mark

I do not know why my Lord has chosen to share this with me, at this time,
Maybe it is because my Father knows that time is short,
God has shown me,
a way of gaining free energy,
seemingly from nothing,

This came to me when I was over visiting at the park,
I was thinking about how electricity worked, and how my electric
chair had the ability to charge itself,
on most any type of downhill run,
(as it uses an electrical breaking system)

I don’t know if you know me or not,
but learning new things is one of my greatest pleasures
and,,,,
When investigating how things work,,,
I always have to push the limits,,, lol
not only learning how things works,
but then tinker with trying to improve them,,,,,

I went with the idea of a ten speed bicycle, (something that I knew about)
Where I wanted to go uphill in tenth gear, (least rotations of the pedals)=motor
and then downhill in first gear, (most rotations)
I was hoping that the increase in pedal rotations, (however the motor mimics this)
would give a net gain in power.
so, I would go uphill at full speed, (tenth gear)
and then downhill at slow speed (first gear)
So,,, now I had something to experiment with,
now I had measurable tests to do,

I started off with a low battery, (so that I did not have the power to drive all the way up)
driving up a steep hill at the park in the full speed position, (tenth gear)
(until my chair would not go any further, as my battery was dead)
and then turning around and going back down the hill in slow speed, (first gear)
Then I immediately turned around, and went back up the hill at full speed,
And guess what happened,,,,
I could travel twenty feet higher up the hill,
so, I had a net gain of electricity,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
(a blessing from God)

Well, I first thought that this might just be a strange happening,
so I did it again and again, doing it three times,
each time gaining twenty more feet, up a steep hill,
Not only did I do it three times that day, (gaining a total of 60 feet)
but I later thought that this went against logic,
(thought I must have been dreaming)
and I did the whole experiment over,
with the same electricity gaining results

I know that there are inner workings of the motor + drive system,
that I have not even roughly looked into,
to find out why + how it works like a 10 speed,
Sorry, but I have no time to color + shade in this drawing,
I could only give you this rough sketch,
and let others get the enjoyment of filling in the details,
I only hope that God will let you enjoy,
at least some of the thrills that I have experienced,
when He showed this amazing reasoning to me,

I don’t know if this is something patentable or not,
as it uses things that are already in existence, 2 motors, 2 pulleys and a battery
but if it is patentable,,,
Could I ask you to donate some of the profits to the Church,
as I think that it would a wise decision,
to repay something to the Creator of this idea,
Please read (Luke 18:29-30)

Someone could easily build a self supplying energy producing power supply,
With a 12v battery, two motors, a small and large pulley, and a belt,
You connect the motor with the big pulley up as a power in = driver motor,
And then connect the motor with the small pulley to be used as an output = generator.
When you put power into the drive motor,
You get out a multiple of this power,
Compared to the size difference of your drive motor, (large pulley)
And your output or generator motor. (small pulley)

To produce a take anywhere power supply,
That needs no fuel to generate electricity,
As it produces enough power to not only keep itself running,
But it has a net gain of power,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,

I was given this picture in my head.
Of a standalone power generator
That is capable of producing an almost unlimited supply of 12V electricity, (could be any voltage)
And it could easily be built, by most mechanically inclined individuals,
Out of some ordinary electronics that can be found around most automobile work areas,

All that you need to make your own power generator, is:
- a 12V battery,
- two 12V motors,
- a small and a large pulley that will fit on these motors.
- a belt to connect the two pulleys together,
- The hardware to piece it together, (a mechano or erector set)
- Wires to go from the motors to the battery = Input + output
- And two speed controls, one for each motor
- The larger gear on the drive motor runs at full speed,= (no resistance)
- With the generator motor running at slow speed,= (max resistance)
- For the most drag or electricity breaking
- And it using the smallest cog,
- To have the greatest amount of rotations,
- As well as the increased voltage caused by the speed at which it runs,

The way that this machine works,
- You use the large cog on the drive(input) motor, (the one that you put power into,
- And use the small cog on the generator (output) motor,
- Caution,,, this mechanism would need an automatic shut off,
- else, if there was no electrical work needed to be done,
- and the machine just ran itself a muck,
- this machine might overcharge the battery,
- Maybe even causing it to explode,,,,,

please,,, if you do take me serious,,,,, ,,,,
and build this mechanism,
could I ask you to email me back,
to tell me what your results were,


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I feel bad,,,
about being so sluggish,
Wishing that I could have spoken of these things earlier,
as in, as soon as it came to me, a few years ago,

This is far out to lunch, as an idea right,,, but it works.

I believe that this could lead to the invention of many new things,,,
including having these generators in the size that can be used to power cars,
and maybe even gain the ability to have smaller forms,
that could used as battery replacements.

NOW
Please,,, send this to everybody you know,,, so that we can have more people
working on ways to utilize this new use for old technology,,,, after all,
more is usually better,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, lol

Benefits to humanity:
- To be an effective way to decrease our negative environmental effects on
our earth,
- To be able to give free electrical power to all people,
- To greatly reduce our oil dependency,
- To give the Middle East less power,
- To lessen the chance of our need for oil getting us into another war,
- To put a needed boast to our economy,
--- by creating many new items to manufacture and sell

Just one of His creations:
joe

 

[01CobraVortech]

I've read about this. Its certainly possible. There's crazy technology inside the military and industrial complex. Btw, I believe in the "abiotic oil theory." Peak oil production is a myth. The Lord made a pretty incredible planet and one that can make hydrocarbons in the mantle of the earth. The Russians have found oil wells as far as 40,000 feet deep. I'm sold. Good luck telling me that dinosaur fossils made it all the way down there. I certainly don't believe that half baked idea.

 

[jerryjohnson]

one_christian_warrior,

So ocw, if you have this machine "a self generating electricity multiplier," <_< why are you telling us? Why not get a patent and build and sell them? Make yourself a fortune. :blink: B)

 

[butxifxnot]

...ocw, I'm pretty sure you have experienced a false discovery.

A "dead" car battery will usually regain some of its charge simply by being off. Does my truck have a battery that creates its own energy??
No.

God FINISHED creation by the seventh day. The Hebrew word for that means "an irrevocable act never again to occur."
That is the Law of Conservation of Energy and Mass.

If you have discovered a perpetual motion machine, you have discovered how to create.

I think all you've done is discovered how to more efficiently use the combination battery-and-recharger that you have in your chair. It's the reason why an alternator works.

 

[Brother Mike]

I dont' see this a reason to call it a false discovery. Science has proved that there is nothing truly perpetual (Something that keeps going, while supplying it's own power.)

Ideas are a dime a dozen, it's those that build working models that tell if we are on to something. I just saw a fuel cell power E-Bay offices and save hundreds of thousands of dollars on MSNBC. It's not perfect, they have small working boxes that can power a home with very little energey use to get the whole thing Going.

Fuel cells have been around for years, but now it can be done very cheap and the idea is to remove all those power lines, each building unit having it's own cheap power source.

So, lets not shoot the brother down. Lets see if he puts this plan into action..

Jesus Is Lord.

 

[one_christian_warrior]

I happen to be disabled,
and what I want more than money,
is to help the tribulation saints,
hey will need a way to heat thier living area,
and cook there food,
and give them light,
and not have a smoke trail of a fire,
or being visable to the authorities,
by satilite heat signiture

 

[one_christian_warrior]

thank you bro,
I want this to catch on quick,
so that there are lots of working models out there,
for the tribulation saints to use,
as Christ must return before 2/10 ths of 2012 is past,
which is less than 2 years,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[one_christian_warrior]

thank you bro,
I want this to catch on quick,
so that there are lots of working models out there,
for the tribulation saints to use,
as Christ must return before 2/10 ths of 2012 is past,
which is less than 2 years,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

[Martin W.]

Perpetual motion machines or over unity devices are not possible in our present universe. Hydrogen requires more energy to produce than it releases. 500 pounds of batteries equals the energy output of one gallon of gasoline.

Gasoline (and diesel fuel) are our best form of low cost portable energy. Nothing else comes close. Sorry.

Best wishes for your inventive mind.

Martin.

 

[01CobraVortech]

Sorry but I'm not buying this 2012 mumbo jumbo.

 

[WhiteKnuckle]

Older thread I know...... But, I'm fascinated by this stuff. I've even taken a Votech course on electronics. (my wife says I'm a nerd,,, I guess she's right)

I woke up in the middle of the night a year ago and sat straight up. LOL, I blurted out, PERPETUAL MOTION MACHINE! It woke my wife up, and I explained my idea.

I researched and planned, and found parts and thought and thought. (I have never built one,,,,,yet)

Many people have tried getting patents on several different machines claiming perpetual motion. There's hundreds of people who try to build self powered generators.

Some how thermodynamics come to play here.

In theory, you can take one generator and run a motor. After the power is generated plug in an electric motor which will run a belt to the other generator. Then you can shut of the gas motor.
So, one runs the other for an indefinate running self powered generator.

Apparently the loss of energy will cause the electric motor to start slowing down a little at a time until it eventually stops. In otherwords,,, You can't get more power out of a system than you put in. If you have a 10v system you can't get 20v out of it as a general rule, although through the use of transistors and transformers and capacitors you can get "more". They "store" or "build" up power then at certain points they dump the power. Much like filling a swimming pool with a water hose. You get 40 or 50 psi from a water hose. But dumping a swimming pool could bring 200 or 300 psi..

If the generator needs to turn at 100rpm to generate 120v at x watts, an electric motor that runs 100rpm more than likely needs more than the 120v at x watts. More than likely the motor will use more energy than the generator can produce. Not to mention the loss of energy due to heat and just simple laws of physics.

The problem then is not having an electric motor that is efficient enough to sustain rpm,torque, and energy long enough to run another generator even though it is dedicated to just running the motor.

It seems so simple and genius, but it has never worked for anyone who's tried it. There is one guy who supposedly made one. It's a monstrous contraption, I think you can find the video on YouTube.

I'm stubborn though and still think about this from time to time and maybe one day someone will figure out away,,, Maybe even you. Not to say it can't be done, but there are definately hurdles to overcome. One thing to consider is the loss of power and a need for a secondary powersource. It might be possible to use secondary battery packs as you suggest, or even possibly solar cells. Now a cog or gear system might compensate for some, or possible a spring loaded compensator along with the transmission might work too. (kind of the same idea as a wind up toy or a yo-yo) and you could use a lower power motor. LOL, Rube Goldberg machines come into mind now. These things can get out of hand.

Harbor freight sells parts for you to build your own generator. I believe the deal is about $100, then you'd just need to buy a couple pullies, belts and a motor. Just match the RPMS with the generator unit. Solar cells and solar battery chargers are fairly cheap and available all over the web. I'm sure the right set up of transformers

This is a truely great idea and there's nothing wrong with dreaming and creativity.

Remember, every single invention started out as perpetual failure. I believe Eddison went through over a thousand failures before the light bulb came into being.

 

[Martin W.]

An easy way to determine how hard it can be to generate electricity can be done by the average guy in his garage,

Take a typical 12 volt car alternator and spin the pulley with your fingers. It is very easy to do and there is very little resistance.

But that alternator really needs to turn about 3000 rpm to generate electricity to properly charge up a battery.

One way to experiment is to turn a bicycle upside down and mount the alternator so the rear bike tire touches and turns the pulley of the alternator.

With everything fastened down securely , use your hands on the pedals and turn them as hard and fast as you can to produce enough electricity to charge a dead battery.

Keep track of how long it takes and how many breaks you take from exhaustion. Then keep in mind you are only producing 12 volts. Not so easy is it ?

Generating electricity takes a lot of energy. Often low cost fossil fuels are burned to power generating stations. It is more efficient to simply burn the fossil fuel where it is needed (in an engine) than converting it to electricity first.

Electricity has its advantages , after all your washing machine needs it right ?

Our grandmothers used gasoline engine powered washing machines that were more efficient than modern electric ones. But they were inconvenient , noisy, and had to be used outdoors.

The 1 horsepower gasoline engine from grandma's washing machine could spin up the 12 volt car alternator to charge a dead battery. It would use about 20 cents worth of gas. Cheaper than the food it would cost to provide the energy to a human turning bicycle pedals in utter exhaustion.

Gasoline is a very potent , cheap , and portable form of energy.

We waste way too much of it but that is an entirely different subject.

Some people use a gallon of gas in their car to drive 10 blocks to the store to get laundry detergent .

They buy the "environmentally friendly" brand of soap and convince themselves they are saving the planet.

Do not be easily fooled folks.

Best regards

Martin W.