Plane crash - flight on its way to Gatwick

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Just watching the news, the plane had only just taken off from an airport in India - hit buildings when it crashed. 252 people on board, no news of survivors yet. I know 52 were British nationals.
Not sure if anyone was killed on the ground- so sad when so many people die in this way.
 

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Thee are sadly no survivors from the plane - there are injured from the buildings, it’s believed that one of the buildings was some kind of medical school.
 

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Plane would have been full of fuel
Surrounding buildings are all burned
As it came down it looked perfect, level and in control.

video here of it crashing in a huge fireball

 

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No Boeing 787 Dreamliner aircraft had crashed until the Ahmedabad incident.

The aircraft type, which entered service in 2011, is described by the US manufacturer as “the bestselling passenger widebody of all time” with more than 2,000 orders from 89 customers.

The planes have carried more than one billion passengers on nearly five million flights.


Air India has 34 of the aircraft in its fleet, according to aviation analysts Cirium.

The jet is flown by a number of other airlines serving the UK, such as British Airways, Virgin Atlantic and Tui Airways.

It increases fuel efficiency by up to 25% compared with the planes it replaces, largely because of modern engines, using lightweight materials and improved aerodynamics.

Recent concerns over the safety of Boeing aircraft have generally related to its 737 Max aircraft.

A Boeing 787 Dreamliner operated by Ethiopian Airlines caught fire while parked at Heathrow airport with no passengers onboard in 2013.

An investigation found the fire was probably caused by a short circuit.

India is one of the world’s fastest growing markets for passenger flights.

The country has witnessed a number of deadly crashes.

Pilot error was blamed for a crash involving an Air India Express plane carrying 190 people in the southern state of Kerala in August 2020.

Twenty-one people were killed.

In May 2010, some 158 people died when an Air India plane flying from Dubai overshot the runway and crashed into a gorge while attempting to land in the southern city of Mangaluru.
 

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One British person survived - he actually walked from the wreckage, but was injured.
Boaing have had quite a few problems over the years - they were endeavouring to re build their reputation. I guess we have to wait to see why it crashed. Experts don’t understand why the landing gear was still down, it should have been up. The plane did send out a mayday but had no time to do anything.
 

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Your life hangs by a thread, it is but a vapor, and then it is gone. Commit your life unto the Lord Jesus.

Colossians 3
1 If then you were raised with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ is, sitting at the right hand of God. 2 Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth. 3 For you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God. 4 When Christ who is our life appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.

James 4:13-15​

New King James Version​

Do Not Boast About Tomorrow​

13 Come now, you who say, “Today or tomorrow [a]we will go to such and such a city, spend a year there, buy and sell, and make a profit”;

14 whereas you do not know what will happen tomorrow. For what is your life? It is even a vapor that appears for a little time and then vanishes away.

15 Instead you ought to say, “If the Lord wills, we shall live and do this or that.”
 

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It certainly makes you think about life and death, and how sudden everything can change.
 
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One British person survived - he actually walked from the wreckage

If I'm ever on a plane that crashes, I'll be that guy but not injured.

But, I found a better deal, God upholds all things by the power of His Word (Hebrews 1:3) so I'll use the mighty Name of Jesus and believe that any plane I'm on does NOT crash!
 

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If I'm ever on a plane that crashes, I'll be that guy but not injured.

But, I found a better deal, God upholds all things by the power of His Word (Hebrews 1:3) so I'll use the mighty Name of Jesus and believe that any plane I'm on does NOT crash!
just out of curiosity, do you believe that God will protect you from everything or just accidents
 

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You are only still alive in the body according to the will and purpose of God for you.
Just like James taught.
And for a believer, to die is gain. And to live is Christ, or it should be viewed in that way.

It all depends on what the Spirit of God is doing with you.
Paul also had his day in the Son in the body. Paul also was supposedly beheaded for His faith by Rome, died a martyr.

Philippians 1
19 For I know that this will turn out for my deliverance through your prayer and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ, 20 according to my earnest expectation and hope that in nothing I shall be ashamed, but with all boldness, as always, so now also Christ will be magnified in my body, whether by life or by death.

21 For to me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain. 22 But if I live on in the flesh, this will mean fruit from my labor; yet what I shall choose I [d]cannot tell. 23 [e]For I am hard-pressed between the two, having a desire to depart and be with Christ, which is far better.

24 Nevertheless to remain in the flesh is more needful for you. 25 And being confident of this, I know that I shall remain and continue with you all for your progress and joy of faith, 26 that your rejoicing for me may be more abundant in Jesus Christ by my coming to you again.
 
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just out of curiosity, do you believe that God will protect you from everything or just accidents

Is there any reason why I should not believe the Lord's promises?

Those that are "unbelieving believers" can expect the Lord to not do anything for them

I'm a believer, so believing God's promises is what I do and this includes taking heed to His warnings which are also His promises.

I can only speak for myself as everyone else will do whatever.

For those that would say "What would you do if you died anyway?", the answer is I'd be in Heaven with the Lord so it's a win win either way!
 

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Is there any reason why I should not believe the Lord's promises?

Those that are "unbelieving believers" can expect the Lord to not do anything for them

I'm a believer, so believing God's promises is what I do and this includes taking heed to His warnings which are also His promises.

I can only speak for myself as everyone else will do whatever.

For those that would say "What would you do if you died anyway?", the answer is I'd be in Heaven with the Lord so it's a win win either way!
I guess the reason I asked was because the apostles believed Gods promises , and they had amazing faith - and yet many of them died in awful ways.
 
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I guess the reason I asked was because the apostles believed Gods promises , and they had amazing faith - and yet many of them died in awful ways.

It's a good thing we are not called to follow the apostles.

We are called to follow Jesus Christ. He is our standard.

Until He willingly laid down His life, submitting Himself to death to go to the Cross for us, the devil couldn't touch Him!

1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Ephesians 6:16
Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.


I guess some people just don't want to walk in victory over the devil that Jesus paid for

2 Corinthians 2:14
Now thanks be unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.


Maybe they think it makes them closer to the Lord or something if they lay down and let the devil slap them around a little

To each his own I suppose.
 

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One British person survived - he actually walked from the wreckage, but was injured.
Boaing have had quite a few problems over the years - they were endeavouring to re build their reputation. I guess we have to wait to see why it crashed. Experts don’t understand why the landing gear was still down, it should have been up. The plane did send out a mayday but had no time to do anything.
It's a miracle that one person survived.
 
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India's largest population religion is Hinduism. That's 80% of the population. In the USA, many passengers actually pray for a safe flight and landing. I know I do.
 

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India's largest population religion is Hinduism. That's 80% of the population. In the USA, many passengers actually pray for a safe flight and landing. I know I do.
Yes, so do I xx
 

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A pilot said the cockpit crew made serious errors.
Instead of pulling up the wheels, they changed the flap angle, they pushed or pulled the wrong lever while taking to the air.
The wheels caused a huge drag on the forward speed.
The flaps were then set wrong, could not generate sufficient lift, even with them pushing engines to max throttle.

The plane lost ability to lift up and fly, started coming down.
They pulled up the nose and it did not help.
They only had seconds to fix their error, and they were panicking.
It's just like when the unexpected happens due to your own fault, you're thinking you are doing the right things, but you made a mistake and do not understand what is happening.

I can see how an AI could fly a plane better as it knows every step and does it like a machine will do.