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Plausible denial

Discussion in 'NonChristian Help Forum' started by JellyJam, May 3, 2019.

  1. JellyJam

    JellyJam Active Member

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    I think that I just might take you Christian's for your word.

    Now how do I invite Jesus into my life?
     
  2. Dave L

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    If you believe Jesus paid for your sins on the cross, you already have eternal life. You should now be baptized and seek to live a holy life. Repentance from sin brings God's presence in your heart and a holy life sustains it.
     
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    Is there any other way around just believing in Jesus Dave L. Because if I go that way, I will become psychotic.
     
  4. Dave L

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    Looks like you missed the boat.
     
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    I do know this a fact Dave L. I have believed in Jesus in my past, and at some point in that faith process I relapse into psychos.
     
  6. Dave L

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    You need professional help.
     
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    Hmm, this I've done.

    And It's very strange to watch you react this way, honestly we all need professional help Dave L.

    But who can fix who in a world where everyone is sick?
     
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    Where does it all begin?

    "But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him." Heb 11:6
     
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    JellyJam,

    I'm sorry that I just discovered this thread. Jelly, I am a retired pastor and Theology professor and nothing would please me more than to see you have a profound conversion experience. To serve you best, though, I need to know whatever you would care to share about your life journey, your burning questions, and your past experience with the church and other Christians. Why? Because my answer to your request needs to be personalized and needs to accompanied by prayer for your successful encounter with Christ. It is hard to pray for your best interests effectively unless I know enough about you, your dreams, your joys, and your frustrations.

    You might feel more comfortable complying with my request if you knew something about me. I am probably best described as a Christian mystic. To get a feel for what I mean please browse my thread "The Right Prayer Partner" in the Prayer section, my thread "My Journey, etc." in the Testimonial section, and my thread "NDEs and ADCs" in the Unorthodox Doctrine section. Ask me whatever you like about those threads. Then I will lead you step by step into a life-changing encounter with Christ.
     
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    Christian mystic? Cool.

    Well, all I can say about myself & my whole understanding up to now is this.

    I am the first man Adam, I'm just in a different body now. Satan is not a fallen angel, he is the one our creator appoints to test mankind.

    The Bible has been corrupted over time, and I'm here to repair the society that Jesus thought he needed to fix along time ago.
     
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    I grind my teeth for you in the here and now, not because I'm heading to hell later. It's because we don't have teeth to grind after we expire.

    Explain to me why Jesus said we would?
     
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    You may not have read some of my posts on other threads, but I have made clear that I am what some label an annihilationist. That is I don't believe that all who miss the mark or fail to make it the end of their course with Him suffer then without end. To me they are simply dead... and the dead ultimately know and feel nothing.
     
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    JellyJam.

    You ducked my question and have not read my threads that I posted that just might convince you that there is an interventionist God. I therefore reissue my challenge to check out those threads and the videos posted in them to see whether they convince you. Are you for real? Or you just a troll? Your response or non-response will answer my question and help keep me from wasting my time communicating with a closed-minded agnostic.
     
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    It is a good question. How do they gnash their teeth in torment? Not that you will even consider this or anyone else...but if it doesn’t make sense why ignore and assume man is right? They ...those religious and waiting for their King yet he stood before them as lowly servant in Love and they despised everything He stood for. They... “gnashed their teeth” on Him countless times furious to the point of doing anything to shut Him up. Brewing in the teeth of hell and torment in an attempt to devour the Son of peace and anyone who followed Him or His way. How more “gnashing of teeth” could there be than when they set in the temple turning it into a den of robbers which took from the poor and widows...and He(God) took the temple down? They rejected the King in favour of keeping their own ways of love for self and money and greed and high position and He said it was all coming down. Not just that temple made with the hands of men where they set but all man’s religious works. How much more “gnashing of teeth” can there be when they saw God remove from all those religious works a people and set them (and new people)in Christ freely and they could not prevent it...God setting a people in this temple made without the hands of man and a habitation of God which is Spiritual where no man or religious posturing can control who is born from above. There they set in their ‘ways of man’ and everything had just been taken from them and given to the poor they neglected. As He (Christ)said when the woman anointed Him for burial and they complained the oil could have been sold to feed the poor. He was the oil sold to feed the poor...they just didn’t see it yet. What if the outer darkness is the furtherest point way from God’s presence and the religious and robbers of the poor were cast there? In the furtherest reach? What if the outer darkness is the furtherest from hearing His voice and seeing His face and this was the gnashing of teeth in anger and resentment and bitterness of the flesh that ‘their image’ was about to be brought down in favour of God’s express image in the Son, the Son of Peace? Of course I don’t know for sure. You seem to say you are a free thinker and Christian’s are not. Have not other men(mankind not the gender) already defined what you think of God. If you say it doesn’t line up...you agree man is right over just leaving unanswered what only God can answer but instead you have decided what you have heard is right...when what you have not heard may be another way? Are you agreeing man has the gnashing of teeth right therefore it must be true which makes God a liar in your eyes based off what man has already said.
     
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    Even your scriptures say that only God can open the eyes of the blind.

    And I have come to know who I am.

    I am indeed Adam, I know exactly how the fall occurred.

    I have to pair with Eve before I leave, this way those of you who are cheating this system won't trap me or her in this loop anymore.

    When I am out, reality will gain me access to it's override function.

    I will then shut this whole simulation down.
     
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    Even the UNsaved shall be raised up...
    Their dead body, raised out of it's grave, and sent to hell, where it's living soul is waiting to reunite within the body....
    That being necessary for justice to prevail, they being present to stand before the Judge, on Judgement Day.
    When they appear before the Judge, "then they will believe"....but OOPS, they can not receive Salvation...thus, they now Knowing the Truth, can do nothing about it....thus, the gnashing of teeth, expressing anguish, and too late to do anything about it.

    They are those, who could not Believe, without "first" SEEING.

    Glory to God,
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    Who is Jesus?

    Glory to God,
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    Jesus is everything that Christian's today are not.
     
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    Really? What things have caused you come to that conclusion?

    Glory to God,
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    "Christ i like; Christians, not so much" Bara Dada
     
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