Predictiong our next president

[tim_from_pa]

I have a little secret that I'll give out to others regarding the lineage of the presidents. They all had royal lineage in them starting with George Washington himself all the way to our present president Bush.So. I looked up on the Internet which of our 3 main candidates have royal blood in an attempt to get an idea who may win: i.e. Hillary, Obama and McCain. Actually, they all do! So I guess it's anyone's grab yet. However, I could not find any royal blood with Ron Paul, or if he has any, I'd like to know because I certainly can't find any sites that make that claim.This makes sense since God said he'd have a descendant from King David's lineage to rule over his people Israel. So, not only the official royal lineage of Great Britain that traces directly back to King David, but also the brother nation the US has parts of that family ruling over them. Jeremiah 33:17.So, whether that's good, bad or otherwise, that's the way it is and that's how the people will gravitate to the charisma that these rulers have as God predestined them to rule and predestined people to vote for them with Godly puppet strings on their hands.Now---- here's a surprise. Obama and McCain share the same Scottish King according to this article: McCain and Obama share royal lineage

 

[Christina]

very interesting Tim:)

 

[Wakka]

I would hope for it to be McCain. But I'm putting my money on Obama.

 

[Gareth]

(tim_from_pa;50554)
So. I looked up on the Internet which of our 3 main candidates have royal blood in an attempt to get an idea who may win: i.e. Hillary, Obama and McCain. Actually, they all do! So I guess it's anyone's grab yet. However, I could not find any royal blood with Ron Paul, or if he has any, I'd like to know because I certainly can't find any sites that make that claim.
Why would having royal blood make your likelihood for being US President be increased? Surely, John F. Kennedy would have had Irish blood as he was of Irish heritage and yet he was elected. I'm interested in what all others would think of this.

 

[eliyahu]

I actually think that the new presidency will be decided only by whoever gets the most votes and electoral votes, no matter who it is. And I don't believe at all the the British are the "lost tribes." That in unorthodox teaching and can get people into trouble.

 

[tim_from_pa]

(Gareth;50700)
Why would having royal blood make your likelihood for being US President be increased? Surely, John F. Kennedy would have had Irish blood as he was of Irish heritage and yet he was elected. I'm interested in what all others would think of this.
Try this link. I am familiar with this site for many years and bases his teaching off of another scholarly pastor (now deceased) with worldwide teaching about this subject. ROYAL PRESIDENTS

 

[Christina]

(eliyahu;50722)
I actually think that the new presidency will be decided only by whoever gets the most votes and electoral votes, no matter who it is. And I don't believe at all the the British are the "lost tribes." That in unorthodox teaching and can get people into trouble.
I dont think anyone said all Brits were the Ten lost tribesBut they did go across the Caucasus Mt into Scotland, Ireland and spread across Europe some of the daughters were coordinated into the Royalty and joined the Royal bloodline and made it to Britain.Many came across the oceans to the christian nations today.They became christians and do not remember who they are.I know the Jews wouldnt buy this but it is history and even though veiled in parables and riddles it is written.If you are interested in this subject theres a great little book you might enjoyhttp://www.christianityboard.com/judaha-sc...ight-t6118.html

 

[Gareth]

(tim_from_pa;50761)
Try this link. I am familiar with this site for many years and bases his teaching off of another scholarly pastor (now deceased) with worldwide teaching about this subject.
Does this apply to the USA or all countries then? Just curious.

 

[tim_from_pa]

(Gareth;50804)
Does this apply to the USA or all countries then? Just curious.
It applies to the nations of the lost house of Israel, including yours and especially to the tribe of Joseph since they were the birthright tribe.The United States originated in the tribe of Manasseh, which was a son from the tribe of Joseph since Joseph had two sons to make 13 tribes of Israel.

 

[Gareth]

(tim_from_pa;50805)
It applies to the nations of the lost house of Israel, including yours and especially to the tribe of Joseph since they were the birthright tribe.The United States originated in the tribe of Manasseh, which was a son from the tribe of Joseph since Joseph had two sons to make 13 tribes of Israel.
The blood from which royalty? I think that's an important question to ask, and also do you have a genealogy to prove that these people are related to a monarch?

 

[tim_from_pa]

(Gareth;50815)
The blood from which royalty? I think that's an important question to ask, and also do you have a genealogy to prove that these people are related to a monarch?
These are from Judah, the tribe of the Kings. There's lots of European lineages that have that common ancestor. And there's many lineages that can be traced to King David. Queen Elizabeth is a direct line to David. No, I do not have the other genealogies as I get them by report searching on the Internet and news stories as the previous link supplied states. There are too many sources to doubt them all. As for most, if not all the US presidents having royal lineages, that has been an established accepted fact broadcasted and written about for many years. That's nothing new for those people who checked into this--- however, it is not common knowledge which is why I shared it here.

 

[Gareth]

How can you trust using possibly flawed lineages and genealogical info that you find on the Internet and then correlating them with what was said in the Bible?

 

[gator347]

Will it matter?The Senate will be veto proof.The DEMs will pick up 30 to 70 more seats in Congress.Pelosi & Reid will be controlling things. They want Obama because he is a “Light Weight”. McCain is DEM Light not Bush Light. :naughty:I suggest: Pay off all your debt Control your spending Stay in current job Hang on tight and love the LORD because he takes care of HIS own.:bible:This is going to be UGLY!!!!!

 

[Jerusalem Junkie]

(gator347;50927)
Will it matter?The Senate will be veto proof.The DEMs will pick up 30 to 70 more seats in Congress.Pelosi & Reid will be controlling things. They want Obama because he is a “Light Weight”. McCain is DEM Light not Bush Light. :naughty:I suggest: Pay off all your debt Control your spending Stay in current job Hang on tight and love the LORD because he takes care of HIS own.:bible:This is going to be UGLY!!!!!
No the last 8 years as been dirt ugly and if we last until the next president is put in office we are going to be lucky.

 

[tim_from_pa]

(Gareth;50914)
How can you trust using possibly flawed lineages and genealogical info that you find on the Internet and then correlating them with what was said in the Bible?
Well, I have a large genealogical chart showing the European lineages to Judah that was painstakingly made by royal genealogists. Genealogy is important because a kingdom stands or falls by proof of a royal's lineage. The presidents of the United States were tied to these well-known lineages. How do I know? Well, I did not study it myself, but there are enough sources that say the same thing. One way to prove something is bunk is if the stories contradict. When we have many sources chiming the same thing, then the odds of getting the same made-up story diminishes tremendously, and there is truth to it.It's like a text book, or source of information found in the library. How do we know it's bunk or not? We compare sources. When all Science books for example state the Potential energy = mgh, then even if we did not discover that fact for ourselves, we put a certain amount of faith in it.In addition, the base source of all this is bible prophecy. It says so and if the bible is true, then it has to come to pass.

 

[tim_from_pa]

(gator347;50927)
I suggest: Pay off all your debt Control your spending Stay in current job Hang on tight and love the LORD because he takes care of HIS own.:bible:This is going to be UGLY!!!!!
Agreed. That is good advice. Had the house and property paid off since the late 90's when I was about 40 years old. I don't spend much on myself, I give God His portion (at least 10%). And now our net worth probably hit the seven digits if I'd sell of our property and cash in our retirement accounts, all this on only a technician's salary. As a matter of fact, I lost a good-paying corporate technical job to one that basically pays 2/3's. Yet, I gave more to God and in spite of making less on my job, we are actually bringing in more.As nice as that sounds, I still do not put trust in that reserve (and the bible says not to) because come the day that martial law or whatever comes along, things will drop in price or be confiscated no doubt by people that never attained that on their own but used the system to get it, the only way they know how. I certainly won't leave this world with it; but I am daily grateful to God for it, as it is tangible evidence to me that He takes care of us in spite of the grand mess-up everyone seems to be in these days.

 

[Gareth]

(tim_from_pa;51015)
Well, I have a large genealogical chart showing the European lineages to Judah that was painstakingly made by royal genealogists. Genealogy is important because a kingdom stands or falls by proof of a royal's lineage.
I'm sorry but that is clear nonsense. A nation falls or stands due to it's decisions, and it's standing towards God. This is irrespective of being related to the tribe of Judah at all.However I would like to see some of these charts you speak of.

 

[tim_from_pa]

(Gareth;51052)
I'm sorry but that is clear nonsense. A nation falls or stands due to it's decisions, and it's standing towards God. This is irrespective of being related to the tribe of Judah at all.However I would like to see some of these charts you speak of.
Well, I just believe what the bible says, and the empirical evidence for such can be found where the bible indicates. I'm British Israelite in belief and that is probably why what I say sounds so strange to you , even though you claim you are from Ireland. I am surprised that the people of the isles know little more of this subject than over here. And yes, I nation stands or falls by its righteousness as the Lord promised to punish Israel in her disobedience back when she was one nation instead of two or more. But the same principle applies. And after the punishments, God also promised Abraham, Isaac and Jacob that His seed would be as the sand of the seashore and many nations, and that kings would come from his loins, something that is not fulfilled in the Jew alone. In other words, Abraham was to inherit the world. The bible is a book about Israel, and much of it is political in that sense amidst the spiritual truth behind it. The non-Israelite Gentiles were just tagged on as the wild olive branches as Paul pointed out, and it is not all about them.

 

[Gareth]

I believe what the Bible says alright, but I also know that all Kingdoms had flaws, even the Kings of Judah and then of all Israel had flaws. It's not the Bible that I object to at all, it's these websites that you link to saying that they can for certainty tell you that all the leaders of the world, in every country (I assume) are descended from King David. I believe anyone who believes in Jesus and anyone who takes the Word of God seriously can lead a good country, irrespective of whether they have Semitic genes or not.The British Israelite message was used as one of racial superiority and domination in Ireland, that is why I cannot trust it. It's been used and corrupted several times in history, and was used as a justification of genocide.

 

[tim_from_pa]

(Gareth;51060)
The British Israelite message was used as one of racial superiority and domination in Ireland, that is why I cannot trust it. It's been used and corrupted several times in history, and was used as a justification of genocide.
Hey lad (or lass), calm down a bit. What you say are the extremes of anything. David Koresh believed in the book of Revelation and took out lots of people, too. That does not make Revelation bad.Just for some insider info, this forum is riddled with people that believe in the lost tribes teaching, including the forum owner and the moderator. You're going to hear a lot of that here for sure just in case you were planning to stick around.