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Maybe you have not been paying attention? Dumb....
Emotional sub text is powerful.
If I suggest an innocent situation and add a possible crime with no evidence it does not show the crime.

You can manipulate the world like this without proof. Emotionally to pull back and see the lie is hard. It is how brain washing works. I only like facts, and see the emotional play. If you want to be a victim fine, it is just dumb.

Jesus showed the world works like this. But if you listen and learn from Him, the truth of God's love will set you free.

Fear of the opposition is easy to use. This fear is real, and can be made greater. All Bidens presidency many will say and feel it's stolen and feel it. I can see how it's done and why it works. But it is a delusion, a play on hopes and fears.

You could argue all of life is. But with Jesus as our anchor we see what plays out. God bless you
 

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Fake media?
The joke is we are all reading the world's reaction to the Trump tweets and legal challenges. For this to have value we have to believe it's true.

In real time it's being played out. I am commenting live on the president's behaviour and you are reading it. That is the power of our world today, not fake or invented etc. The power of arguments is now the scene, real time.

It's dangerous but also fantastic. It's absurd and also powerful but certainly not fake. So be encouraged, your fears for the future should be calmed. Truth can be spoken and not silenced.

Some things when shown to be lies and damaging need to be marked as such, like 5g and a virus. We need balance and also education. It is the power of this medium, powerful arguments win. God bless you

You can take it as a study....the democrats are modeling the US take over and transition to Communism after past historical transitions to Communism. Socialists...Marxists...dictators...tomato...tamoto... Look at the timeline of events in Venezuela...the sequence of events, that is what we have in store for us if Biden wins. My son works with Venezuelan doctors and nurses that were able to escape and are working on a rescue for their families in Venezuela. Look at the interviews of the Cubans in Florida that escaped Cuba, they will tell you what it is like.

Look at the communist propaganda machine...modern and current. The Nazis had a propaganda machine, China and Russia still has it running. It takes a study...compare the tactics of these communist propaganda outlets to the fake news machine in America.

You say "We need balance and also education."
We need to be balanced with communism?
Education? Yeap Satan is standing by to educate you.
Drink that Kool-aid!
Murder is not that serious...
Abortion is not murder....
Doing drugs is a freedom....
Accept homosexuality.
Anarchy is the way....
March around and chant curses to Christ.....
Burn the Bibles.....
Morals are old fashioned....
Do anything you want.....


You got that brain cap on nice and snug and kool-aid in hand....Satan is wanting a fair and balanced conversation with you... What are you going to do...FollowHim.

 

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Emotional sub text is powerful.
If I suggest an innocent situation and add a possible crime with no evidence it does not show the crime.

You can manipulate the world like this without proof. Emotionally to pull back and see the lie is hard. It is how brain washing works. I only like facts, and see the emotional play. If you want to be a victim fine, it is just dumb.

Jesus showed the world works like this. But if you listen and learn from Him, the truth of God's love will set you free.

Fear of the opposition is easy to use. This fear is real, and can be made greater. All Bidens presidency many will say and feel it's stolen and feel it. I can see how it's done and why it works. But it is a delusion, a play on hopes and fears.

You could argue all of life is. But with Jesus as our anchor we see what plays out. God bless you

So you and I have had discussions before. Good person. I know that.
I do not put bumper stickers on my truck, but if I did it would read "THINK BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!"
So to you I say "Mark my words!" I will feed them back to you later. This is a battle between good and evil...World War i and World war ii. Where would we be if Hitler or the Japanese would have won? This is not about opinion or tolerance ...this is serious. As it is in the world...what happens to the world if the United States becomes communist?
Who is left to confront evil?
 

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US Army seizes Dominion servers in Germany, Trump lawyer vows, 'I'm going to release the Kraken' - Geller Report News

‘I’m going to release the Kraken’
says Sidney Powell

The kraken (/ˈkrɑːkən/) is a legendary cephalopod-like sea monster of gigantic size in Scandinavian folklore.

(Name choices for a program, is typically per what the inventer calls it)

KRACKEN is a Name of a management software program that projects tracking.

HAMR is a Name of a software program designed, and selected on initial use for the CIA Aimed at Browsers of Foreign Nations and Foreign citizens.

Programs are updated, modified and new programs created for Compromising Data and Embedding Implants of Data.

Voter Cheating is NOT a new phenomenon...
Thousands of people over the years have been accused, investigated, tried, convicted of voter fraud.

Mail Voter fraud has been for Decades Proved and a great concern.

Mail in votes for decades has been Limited for special circumstances.

Thousands of people have been parading the streets in large crowds and No Great outcry for fear of Covid spreading...

Yet in last minute ditch effort, laws were haphazardly passed to expand mailin ballots to all persons.
Why?
•Because Covid Only can be a threat in Polling stations AND Not protest crowds?
•Or Because the Legislatures passing these laws...were Completely Ignorant of the Thousands of Convicted Fraud cases specific to Voter Fraud?
•or Because the legislatures WERE knowledgeable of the Thousands of Voter Fraud Cases, and their Intent WAS to Unleash a MASS opportunity for Voter Fraud?

In the last 20 years or so, MASSIVE amounts of Software Programs have been Created AND WIDELY USED to to Track, Manage, Spy, Compromise, Change, Imbed, Implant, Erase Data on Computers....Not a Secret...Not Secret in Governments...Not Secret in the General Public.

•BY their Very Nature; (And historical fraud Proof Cases) ...Main in Votes are Highly Suspect. There is NO SECURE Measure in place FOR ANY mail in Ballot of ANY Person.

•BY their Very Nature; (And historical Proved Hacking Cases of "supposed highly SECURE Computers") Computer Votes are Highly Suspect. There is NO SECURE Measure in place FOR Resistance of Any Computer, (let alone THOUSANDS of Computers ), Against HACKING.

•BY their Very Nature; Ballot Counters are Highly Suspect.....And WHY there ARE Laws TO REQUIRE...OVERSEERS...of Ballot Counters, Ballot Processing Centers AND Ballot Handlers.

Fraud HAS been ALLEDGED...
In mail Handling of mail in Ballots.
Some Evidence Revealed...Loose unattended Ballots.

Fraud HAS been ALLEDGED...
In processing Centers...
•Barring Overseers (watchers) <--- illegal
•Overseers Observing Double Counting of same ballots.<---illegal
•Overseers Observing Counters Signing Ballots.<--- illegal.
•overseers Objections Ignored<--- illegal.
• delivery of Ballots "from" NON USPS Employees. <---illegal
• Ballots Removed from Processing Centers open Viewing Area "TO Behind Closed Doors", without A Watcher. <--- illegal.
• Opening ANY Ballot, Processing Any Ballot, Without A Clear View of A Watcher.<--- illegal

ASTOUNDING- that ANY American Citizen with a Lawful Right to Vote...would OBJECT to Investigations be conducted to ENSURE No American Voting citizen would be DEPRIVED of their Lawful Vote to Be Lawfully Accounted and included in the Lawful Tally!!!

It is not a big secret, that one who has perpeturated a Fraud or been involved in a Fraud or benefits from A Fraud...Does NOT want an investigation conducted.

Not a big Secret...the people crying Against an investigation are Democrats....

Little do they realize the Spotlight They are illuminating Themselves with.

Pretty Sad...!!
 

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About 9,500 voters whose names and dates of birth (DOB) match death records in the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) are marked in the Michigan mail voting database as having returned ballots, according to an analysis of the state’s election data conducted by a data researcher.

Dead People Cast Ballots in Michigan, Data Researcher Alleges

This announcement has been verified. But communist fake news damage control is on full alert and is rushing in to deny. Look at the web...

For a country that has over 2 million dead people on the books as registered to vote, it is no surprise. For us that are old enough to know, we know that this has always been one of the most common frauds in elections....even the black and white movies and TV shows talked about it....it is the amount of it that is new.
 
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So you and I have had discussions before. Good person. I know that.
I do not put bumper stickers on my truck, but if I did it would read "THINK BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE!"
So to you I say "Mark my words!" I will feed them back to you later. This is a battle between good and evil...World War i and World war ii. Where would we be if Hitler or the Japanese would have won? This is not about opinion or tolerance ...this is serious. As it is in the world...what happens to the world if the United States becomes communist?
Who is left to confront evil?

There is a battle of perspectives going on. It is happening in many homes and family situations.
Loving parents have kids. Some declare they are gay in there twenties. Others get pregnant in unfortunate situations.
There is trauma and division, with loving people torn one way and the other, not knowing quite what to do.
The black and white situation when actually experienced turns out to be different.

Out of this have come perspectives and changes to the law, to give rights to groups who feel marginalised and victimised.
Another group are piggy backing this dilemma to push Marxism over the free market.
They interpret the world into power groups and claim they are the victimised group who will take power back to themselves.
The problem is they are not a group and their target does not exist, so they will end up chewing up the whole society.

It is this one needs to address, the destructive engine of hate and anger who needs a cause and a solution.
The solution is social integration and gaining a purpose in life that is constructive and not destructive.
This is the powerhouse of the christian faith, and the future of the Kingdom, bringing life to lost.

What you are calling a battle is a symtom of abandoning faith and fighting for kingdoms of this world, which obviously will destroy all those who get wrapped up in it. Look at Judas, and what happened in AD 70. The world will always cry for heroes, battles, with leaders leading their armies to victory against the hordes of evil who are the enemy.

We already have victory in Christ. Our battle is with love from the heart to each individual. Our laws and way of life will reflect this core, not the laws dictate our way of life.

Take for instance the trans gender debate. This affects a very small group of people, who often have serious mental illness issues as well. Giving them some support is appropriate, but more than this, is just manipulation by provocative forces desiring conflict. Jesus calls us to turn the other cheek for a reason. It is because this battle is not about these sad individuals but how God loves them.

God bless you
 

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Do you not see the absurd idea that worldwide an off the cuff remark normally said to someone in a meeting etc. is now public.
No filter, no public relations people making sure policy is not made up as they go, that things are balanced so the right people are addressed.

My wife always says I say things with one meaning and context, but others could think the context in another way I did not intend and it have a bad impression or result.

In the UK a sports person referred to people of colour, which is a term for black people in some cultures, non white, are referred to. He was called inappropriate and some said he should resign. I often use the term lady to politely refer to women, or girls, or if I say darling in the wrong context it is a rebuke. Some women have objected to being called a lady, too patriachal. But we have lost a polite word to refer respect to a woman we regard in high regard, as a complement. Some use the word "love", "petal", "rose" and scottish people I know "hen".

I end up finding I have to be very careful which word I use, in case some group miss-understand my context.
Just take the right wing groups, "stand back and stand by", rather than "stand down" as Trump respond on the election debate.

It often becomes apparent if divides are not made clear political extreme groups crave recognition and oxygen of publicity from stray remarks.
In parliament, a foreign secretary referred incorrectly to a citizen in prison, which meant her situation got worse.
Sometimes words cannot be reversed and have life changing consequences.

So politicians do not take to twitter easily, but are very careful what and how they say things. Trump does not seem to follow this.
That to me is just a joke, in a real sense. No awareness of the true impact this has, like a bull in a china shop. Ahhhhhhhhh
 

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You can take it as a study....the democrats are modeling the US take over and transition to Communism after past historical transitions to Communism. Socialists...Marxists...dictators...tomato...tamoto... Look at the timeline of events in Venezuela...the sequence of events, that is what we have in store for us if Biden wins. My son works with Venezuelan doctors and nurses that were able to escape and are working on a rescue for their families in Venezuela. Look at the interviews of the Cubans in Florida that escaped Cuba, they will tell you what it is like.

Look at the communist propaganda machine...modern and current. The Nazis had a propaganda machine, China and Russia still has it running. It takes a study...compare the tactics of these communist propaganda outlets to the fake news machine in America.

You say "We need balance and also education."
We need to be balanced with communism?
Education? Yeap Satan is standing by to educate you.
Drink that Kool-aid!
Murder is not that serious...
Abortion is not murder....
Doing drugs is a freedom....
Accept homosexuality.
Anarchy is the way....
March around and chant curses to Christ.....
Burn the Bibles.....
Morals are old fashioned....
Do anything you want.....


You got that brain cap on nice and snug and kool-aid in hand....Satan is wanting a fair and balanced conversation with you... What are you going to do...FollowHim.

This is the problem of polarisation. If I am the enemy of you, when I stand in the middle ground, what hope is there for you to stop the extremes of communism. Communism is the belief people are innately good, it is by recognising the community and it working together you get a working society.

The truth is people know love but corrupt it through sin and hurt through their lives unto death. Without the light of Jesus it is just a prevention exercise to put off the inevitable. It is through Jesus and our focus on sacrifice and service using our skills for the community that we find the Kingdom. We know we are born sinners, with a propensity to lose focus and drift off the path, but in Christ we can stay true.

If you believe any social service or support is evil and of satan, then the only society you support is tyranny of the rich and powerful.
The apostles call us to serve the needs of others, to give and share, to show hospitality, to love all we meet and bind up their wounds.
Jordan Peterson puts this is psychological terms, saying our goal is to recognise equality of opportunity but not equality of reward.
Successful people need to prosper more and will do so in every healthy society. Equally the society has to find ways to push this success back into society so all benefit. In real economic and social terms we are still working on this one, but a free market social democracy is currently a pretty good working model. It is not a dictatorship and not communism.

I know a few socialist/marxist friends and they are so full of hatred and the idea of elites that do not exist, is frightening. But it makes them have a purpose, but it is so far off how the social groups work and why, it is frightening to think such folk could be in power. It is why Corban lost the elections in the UK. In political terms I am a liberal democrat, though in truth that is still a compromise. Probably I am a centre conservative but they do not really exist at present. God bless you
 

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And the communist fake news damage control rushes in!

Here is another classic of the fraud allegation. We think there is a fraud here, so you spend a large amount of money and time to prove us right.
Everything is innocent until proven guilty. It is up to the accuser to prove their case, not the defence to prove their innocence.
Just discovering connections and accusing bias in certain individuals is not proof of illegal behaviour.

Legally the votes will be certified and Biden elected, because anyone can invent these kind of accusations.
In truth Rudy has declared he has no evidence.

Imagine going into court and insisting on the defendants to prove their guilt.
Obviously they will do nothing, and claim it is just false accusations. This is how justice works.
If you can prove to a judge grounds for such an accusation, things can be raided, impounded and tested for criminal behaviour.

In a country split 50/50 are there no republican judges willing to do this? If not the case must be unbelievably frivolous.
Rudy is busted, completely.

Thanks for sharing the video, very enlightening.

God bless you
 

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BREAKING! Rep. Louie Gohmert: US Army Raided & Seized Server Company In Germany, Tied To The Dominion Election System
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Rep. Louie Gohmert told Chris Salcedo on Newsmax that people on the ground in Germany report that Scytl, which hosted elections data improperly through Spain, was raided by a large US ARMY force and their servers were seized in Frankfurt.

Andrea Widburg at American Thinker earlier reported that Scytl is a Barcelona-based company that provides electronic voting systems worldwide, many of which have proven vulnerable to electronic manipulation.

Scytl has (or had) Soros and Democrat party connections. Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen’s Vulcan Capital has invested $40 million in Scytl. Tonight we learned from our source that Bill Gates also owns stock in Scytl.

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Here is what Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) had to say about this alleged raid earlier today:



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Tonight we heard more from our source on this raid in Germany.

From our source: The US government, once they determined that this Dominion server was involved in switching votes, then the intelligence community began a search for the server and discovered that the server was in Germany.

In order to get access to that server and have it available for use in a legal manner they had to have the State Department work in tandem with the Department of Justice. They had to request that the government of Germany cooperate in allowing this seizure of this server.

The appropriate documents required to affect that kind of seizure were put in place, signed off on, and it appears there was also US military support in this operation. The US military was not in the lead. But this helps explain why Esper was fired and Miller and Kash Patel were put in place — so that the military would not interfere with the operation in any way.

By getting ahold of the server they now are going to have the direct evidence of when they were instructed to stop counting.

They will also discover who gave the direction to stop counting and who initiated the algorithm that started switching votes. The CIA was completely excluded from this operation.


Check this out: Actual Election Map, Based on Actual Results So Far, Shows Trump is Winning

Trump Attorney Lin Wood weighed in on this report today:



Source: TheGatewayPundit.com
 

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Just as a simple observation Georgia is going to do a manual count of the vote. No machines, just people.
If the numbers match the machine count, then the machines were not biased.

If the numbers are way off, then there is a problem.
So to a degree we have a test of the proposition of fraud in one state.

What will be claimed if the numbers come back the same? It is a cover up, they got to the state workers, the deep state at work.
Or simply the machines work.

I suppose this is entertainment in a lock down, lol, who has the popcorn........:)
 

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In the UK a sports person referred to people of colour, which is a term for black people in some cultures,
Ever heard of Jimmy the Greek?
My wife always says I say things with one meaning and context,
Say hello to your wife for me...
If you believe any social service or support is evil and of satan, then the only society you support is tyranny of the rich and powerful.
I categorically disagree, although nothing or nobody is perfect, "social service or support" can lean one way or another.

Now concerning food offered to idols: we know that “all of us possess knowledge.” This “knowledge” puffs up, but love builds up. If anyone imagines that he knows something, he does not yet know as he ought to know. But if anyone loves God, he is known by God.
 

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Here is a presentation on the history of America in particular with a focus on the constitution and the reasons for Independence and self governance. I thought it would be helpful for non Americans to understand where the nation is today and why it is quite legitimate, even biblical sound and healthy for the nation itself that the American people should by any means possible within the framework of law, demand true transparency and justice in the current political crisis.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs92aXQ5UAW1NnBAPmjXon4TrCRWkdPdd
sweet as... bro..Mean!....:cool: come on over here and teach a few..they need this stuff in their heads as well...
Always a pleasure that you share some great knowledge with us brother....:)
 

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This is the problem of polarisation. If I am the enemy of you, when I stand in the middle ground, what hope is there for you to stop the extremes of communism. Communism is the belief people are innately good, it is by recognising the community and it working together you get a working society.
This is the trappings of communism. On paper communism works, but it does not work outside the vacuum, it never has. Our history is not full of people trying to escape our country, quite the contrary, for a reason.
 

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Interesting story about Scytl.
There appears to be conflicting facts on this issue.

Following several erroneous statements that have been published in digital and social media, Scytl would like to clarify the following:

The technologies implemented by Scytl in the US are both hosted and managed within the US by a local subsidiary, SOE Software, based in Tampa, Florida.
We do not tabulate, tally or count votes in the US
We do not provide voting machines in the US.
We did not provide online voting to US jurisdictions for the US elections.
We do not have servers or offices in Frankfurt.
The US army has not seized anything from Scytl in Barcelona, Frankfurt or anywhere else
We are not owned by George Soros and have never been connected to him
We are not tied to Smartmatic, SGO, Dominion or Indra
We have no ties with Russia either

FACT-CHECK: Did our government execute a “Raid” in Germany and find proof of election tampering and fraud?

This information appears to have grown from monday but who knows.
Part of the basis of election counting or any security issue is to always have servers in the country where processing is taking place.
Scytl seems to be denying the above accusation, and their server is probably totally overloaded now.
 

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This is the trappings of communism. On paper communism works, but it does not work outside the vacuum, it never has. Our history is not full of people trying to escape our country, quite the contrary, for a reason.

We are leaving out the core tenet that it is exploitation of the workers by the owners of production.
Marxism failed in the industrialised world, but succeeded in the peasant world of Russia and China where exploitation was real and obvious.

And this is why it will not work in the UK or the US, though people fear it.
I look at Rhodesia which became Zimbawa a successful society, the bread basket of Africa to a poverty stricken state, which is now completely failed.
Hatred and victimisation linked with murder and justice against innocent hard working people is the key beast that rips societies apart.

I think riots and innocent businesses destroyed in US cities is certainly part of this cycle if not answered. The question needs to be answered before it becomes this mad eyed monster that will never be happy. It is not the democrats who are the enemy, but simplistic answers which do not address core life issues. Unfortunately attacking the voting system without evidence is one such activity that helps these forces take off.

No matter how much one wants something the mirror image will appear, using the same language with the same anger, and unfortunately the same destructive results. It is why to maintain our institutions and assumptions we need balanced reporting and fact checking with respectful gaps for the facts to emerge. It is the problem of the technological age, and its benefit that this can happen quickly, but also other sources of information tapped.

God bless you
 

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The technologies implemented by Scytl in the US are both hosted and managed within the US by a local subsidiary, SOE Software, based in Tampa, Florida.

The raid....whoever did it lol did occur....details to follow I am sure, but between these two facts, play a little Columbo the detective and tell me what it means. Just with these facts.
 
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Marxism failed in the industrialised world, but succeeded in the peasant world of Russia and China where exploitation was real and obvious.
Marxism...communism....dictatorship....usually involves large deep graves filled with people....killed by that government. Your definition of success please.
 
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