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Webster's defines "posit" as: to assume or affirm the existence of; viz:
postulate.
What Rome did in the councils of Florence and Trent, was to first of all posit
the existence of a purgatory. This essential fact can be easily discerned in
the language of paragraphs 1030, 1031, and 1032 of the Catechism. Rome
had to do that because there is no clear-cut mention of a purgatory in the
Bible. They then searched high and low to find verses that suggest their
posit is true.
That's what's known as the practice of doing violence to the Bible and
forcing it to mean things it doesn't say in writing; which is kind like holding a
conch's shell to one's ear and claiming to hear the ocean's roar. Is the ocean
in the conch shell? No; it just sounds like it's in there. Though the conch
shell came from the ocean; it cannot be expected to produce an ocean; for
example:
†. 2Pet 3:16 . . Some of brother Paul's comments are hard to understand,
and those who are ignorant and unstable have twisted his letters around to
mean something quite different from what he meant: just as they do the
other parts of Scripture-- and the result is disaster for them.
You know; I cannot help but wonder how on earth the single largest
Christian denomination in the whole world-- with some of the world's best
and brightest linguists and Bible scholars at its disposal --ever got to the
point where its Magisterium became ignorant and unstable. It's boggling.
Anyway, after formulating it's official purgatory doctrine, it then became a
Church tradition; which is, of course the best they could label it since
purgatory is a formulated doctrine rather than a revealed doctrine.
CCC.1031 . .The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of
the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.
The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the
Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to
certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:
To its credit, Rome calls its purgatory doctrine a "tradition" rather than a
revelation.
Traditions aren't eo ipso evil. I mean, after all, those passed down by the
apostles are legitimate.
†. 2Thss 2:13-15 . . But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you,
brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for
salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, to which
He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus
Christ. Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you
were taught, whether by word or our epistle.
It's important to note in CCC.1031 that Catholicism's purgatory isn't
apostolic, but rather legislated by the Catholic Councils of Trent and Florence.
In other words: their purgatory is proprietary. Which gives rise to the question:
Is Rome's purgatory real or not? Well, I would have to say it probably isn't
because I seriously doubt it's possible for Rome's councils to just up and legislate
a purgatory into existence. If the Bible's God hasn't had a purgatory all along then
I seriously doubt He would go to the trouble of accommodating Rome by creating
a one ex post facto purely for the sake of validating Council legislation.
Buen Camino
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Webster's defines "posit" as: to assume or affirm the existence of; viz:
postulate.
What Rome did in the councils of Florence and Trent, was to first of all posit
the existence of a purgatory. This essential fact can be easily discerned in
the language of paragraphs 1030, 1031, and 1032 of the Catechism. Rome
had to do that because there is no clear-cut mention of a purgatory in the
Bible. They then searched high and low to find verses that suggest their
posit is true.
That's what's known as the practice of doing violence to the Bible and
forcing it to mean things it doesn't say in writing; which is kind like holding a
conch's shell to one's ear and claiming to hear the ocean's roar. Is the ocean
in the conch shell? No; it just sounds like it's in there. Though the conch
shell came from the ocean; it cannot be expected to produce an ocean; for
example:
†. 2Pet 3:16 . . Some of brother Paul's comments are hard to understand,
and those who are ignorant and unstable have twisted his letters around to
mean something quite different from what he meant: just as they do the
other parts of Scripture-- and the result is disaster for them.
You know; I cannot help but wonder how on earth the single largest
Christian denomination in the whole world-- with some of the world's best
and brightest linguists and Bible scholars at its disposal --ever got to the
point where its Magisterium became ignorant and unstable. It's boggling.
Anyway, after formulating it's official purgatory doctrine, it then became a
Church tradition; which is, of course the best they could label it since
purgatory is a formulated doctrine rather than a revealed doctrine.
CCC.1031 . .The Church gives the name Purgatory to this final purification of
the elect, which is entirely different from the punishment of the damned.
The Church formulated her doctrine of faith on Purgatory especially at the
Councils of Florence and Trent. The tradition of the Church, by reference to
certain texts of Scripture, speaks of a cleansing fire:
To its credit, Rome calls its purgatory doctrine a "tradition" rather than a
revelation.
Traditions aren't eo ipso evil. I mean, after all, those passed down by the
apostles are legitimate.
†. 2Thss 2:13-15 . . But we are bound to give thanks to God always for you,
brethren beloved by the Lord, because God from the beginning chose you for
salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and belief in the truth, to which
He called you by our gospel, for the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus
Christ. Therefore, brethren, stand fast and hold the traditions which you
were taught, whether by word or our epistle.
It's important to note in CCC.1031 that Catholicism's purgatory isn't
apostolic, but rather legislated by the Catholic Councils of Trent and Florence.
In other words: their purgatory is proprietary. Which gives rise to the question:
Is Rome's purgatory real or not? Well, I would have to say it probably isn't
because I seriously doubt it's possible for Rome's councils to just up and legislate
a purgatory into existence. If the Bible's God hasn't had a purgatory all along then
I seriously doubt He would go to the trouble of accommodating Rome by creating
a one ex post facto purely for the sake of validating Council legislation.
Buen Camino
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