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Question: 10 "Lost" Tribes of Israel

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  1. HammerStone

    HammerStone Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    I've got a question for you guys and gals: Where are the 10 so called "lost" tribes of Israel?
     
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    I've got a question for you guys and gals: Where are the 10 so called "lost" tribes of Israel?
    I'd love to know, SwampFox. Please give your source.
     
  3. Christina

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    I've got a question for you guys and gals: Where are the 10 so called "lost" tribes of Israel?
    I know but if I told ya I have to kill ya (lol) so guess you will have tell us Swampfox unless anyone else has any ideas
     
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    I've got a question for you guys and gals: Where are the 10 so called "lost" tribes of Israel?
    Having second thoughts about going there?Didn't some of the tribe go to the United Kingdom and the United States?Disclaimer: The tribes were lost for a reason; they were disobedient.Just adding my two cents while we wait for the real answer.
     
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    Yes Ros. Only the tribes of Judah and Levi remained in Isreal.The remeant of the oher ten tribes mostly the daughters,children,elderly were left, they crossed over the Caucasus mountains into Scotland and spread across Europe and eventually to the U.S. some even married into the Royal family.This is the reason you will, to this day, find the stone Jacob used as a pillow (in his Jacobs latter dream ) sets under the throne in Scotland. After it was captured by England century's before the stone was returned to Scotland several years ago.
     
  6. HammerStone

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    My best answer is coming soon, but until then, anyone else?
     
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    Hello All,I am new to these boards. And this is also a great subject. I've been a student of the Bible for about 25 years. And I've done a little research into what happened to the Northern 10-Tribed Kingdom of Israel.There are many clues in the Bible what happened.First of all me must ask, "Has God cast off his people whom he foreknew?The answer is No.Malachi 3:6 "For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed."The Apostle Paul wrote:Romans 11:1 "I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin."Hosea 1:1-11 "Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God. Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel."God said to Abraham:Genesis 12:2 "And I will make of thee a GREAT NATION, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:"Jesus said to the Jews: Matthew 21:43 "Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a NATION bringing forth the fruits thereof."Now let's read James:James 1:1 "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the TWELVE TRIBES which are scattered abroad, greeting."We see here the James is addressing ALL TWELVE TRIBES which had been "scattered abroad" and are now being converted to Christianity.The Northern 10-Tribed Kingdom of Israel went into Assyrian captivity around 720 BC. Then they were "scattered among the gentiles". Then what happened?Lost Sheep?Ezekiel 20:34 "And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out."Jeremiah 31:10 Hear the word of the LORD, O ye nations, and declare it in the isles afar off, and say, He that scattered Israel will gather him, and keep him, as a shepherd doth his flock.Jeremiah 50:6 "My people hath been lost sheep: their shepherds have caused them to go astray, they have turned them away on the mountains: they have gone from mountain to hill, they have forgotten their restingplace."Jeremiah 50:17 Israel is a scattered sheep; the lions have driven him away: first the king of Assyria hath devoured him; and last this Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon hath broken his bones.Ezekiel 34:6 "My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them."But then Jesus comes and seeks out the "Lost Sheep" who were scattered abroad.Jesus states in the New Testament:Matthew 10:6 "But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."Matthew 15:24 "But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."Gospel of John"John 11:52 "And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad."Now we know that the Lost Sheep of Israel were FOUND. ALL TWELVE TRIBES were found and gathered together and converted to Christianity, except of course, those Jews who rejected Jesus.Okay, then where did they go? Well, they went WEST, did they not?Jesus said:Matthew 24:27 "For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be."How did Christianity spread? Did it not go from EAST to WEST? And did not the Christians become established in the WEST?The Great Western migration of the barbarian tribes, who were Christians, who warred against the Roman Catholic Church?Another clue is in the 12th Chapter of the book of Revelation.Who is the "Woman" of Revelation, chaper 12? Is she not Israel?Where was the Woman carried after the "Dragon" was wroth and persecuted her?Revelation 12:6 "And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days."Revelation 12:14 "And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent."Revelation 12:17 "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."Note: This Woman, Israel not only keeps the "commandments of God," but she keeps the "testimony of Jesus Christ." This cannot be referring to the Jews who live in the State of Israeli, but somewhere else. For the Jews have rejected Jesus even until this day.THE NEW JERUSALEMClues in the Bible:Zechariah 2:4 "And said unto him, Run, speak to this young man, saying, Jerusalem shall be inhabited as towns without walls for the multitude of men and cattle therein:"Zechariah 14:11 "And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited."Ezekiel 38:11-12 "And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates, To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land."Now, where is the land that was "once a wilderness", is gathered out of many nations, where the people dwell in security having neither bars nor gates nor walls, and have gotten cattle and goods."? Revelation 21:22 "And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it."The New Jerusalem will have NO temple. Could this be "America"? "Amel-reicha", which means "God's Kingdom"?Who dwells safely in the "Isles"? Is that not Great Britain, Ireland, Wales, and Scotland?The Blessing of Joseph's sons, Epraim and Manessah, that they would become great people and a company of nations?Is it not the "Christians" who carry the "Name of God"? Numbers 6:27 "And they shall put my name upon the children of Israel; and I will bless them."Galatians 3:29 "And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise."God Bless you!Kim
     
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    DenverWhat with them all being virgins, can you imagin that many virvins in this day and age?
     
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    Lol! Haha
     
  10. Christina

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    kkboldtIsrael was divided into the Northern and southern half's the 10 tribes from the North migrated over the caucasus Mt into what is Now Scotland where they spread into Britain and across Europe. And eventually to America Ephraim and Mannasa are the U.S. and Britain in prophecy The tribe of Judah some levite and Benjamits were in the south and make up the modern day Jews of today known as JudahYou can still find the pillow of Jacobs latter dream under the throne of Scotland
     
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    Hi Kriss,Have you ever read "Jacob's Pillar" by E. Raymond Capt?This is story of how "The Stone of Scone" or Lia Fail was carried to Scotland via the Tribe of Dan or the "Tuatha de Danaan". And the kings and queens of Scotland and Britain were coronated over this stone. I found many books through either "Destiny Publishers" or "Artisan Publishers". You can do a Google search to find these. Most are all online now. I really enjoy E. Raymond Capt's books because he is an archaeologists as well as a Christian who believes we make up the Lost Tribes of Israel.Kim
     
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    Yes I have I also enjoy Capt's booksLike minds I guess:)
     
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    Hi Kriss,Have you ever read "Jacob's Pillar" by E. Raymond Capt?This is story of how "The Stone of Scone" or Lia Fail was carried to Scotland via the Tribe of Dan or the "Tuatha de Danaan". And the kings and queens of Scotland and Britain were coronated over this stone. I found many books through either "Destiny Publishers" or "Artisan Publishers". You can do a Google search to find these. Most are all online now. I really enjoy E. Raymond Capt's books because he is an archaeologists as well as a Christian who believes we make up the Lost Tribes of Israel. Kim
    Another woman after my own heart! Like Kriss. Welcome to these forums. I have several of Capt's books and enjoy them very much. There are many people here that God opened their eyes that understand about the tribes of Israel. I find this Christian forum very unique and feel at home. You'll find the usual number of dissenters, but hey, it's a free country and speech! [​IMG] But there are enough that believe as I do that I feel I found a home here.
     
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    The 10 tribes were scattered in the diaspora never to reunite as individual tribes again.
     
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    Not true Ez 37 says the 10 lost tribes which have become the Christian nations will be unnited with Judah (todays Jews) under Christ Eze 37:16 Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and [for] all the house of Israel his companions: Eze 37:17 And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand. Eze 37:18 And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou [meanest] by these? Eze 37:19 Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which [is] in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, [even] with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand. Eze 37:20 And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.
     
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    In the Bible, who Are The People Of The House Of Israel,the House Of Judah, The Jews, And The Kenites?The difference between the peoples of Israel, Judah, the Jews, and the Kenites (the sons of Cain, the first murderer) First of all, when studying Biblical history and prophecy, you mustn't confuse the House of Israel with the House of Judah. When you see the 'House of Israel' written of in the scriptures, it refers to the Ten Northern Tribes of Israel (now referred to as the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel). But when you see the 'House of Judah' spoken of, it refers to the Southern Kingdom consisting of peoples of the Tribes of Judah and Benjamin. Originally, when the Houses were still joined together, there were twelve Tribes. These Twelve Tribes became split into two Houses, one called the Northern Kingdom with it's Capitol at Samaria, and the other called the Southern Kingdom with it's Capitol at Jerusalem. To this very day they are split, with the Ten Northern tribes having lost all knowledge of their identity, as was prophesied of to happen in Scripture:Rom 11:2525 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. (KJV) But what ever became of Israel (the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel)? After a three years siege and the final fall of Samaria with it's becoming of an Assyrian Province in 611 B.C. (722 B.C. by profane history), Israel ceased to be and dropped out of history. But Israel (the Ten Lost Tribes) were never lost to God, they migrated North over the Caucasus Mountains (where we get our word 'Caucasian' from) and settled Europe, eventually populating Scotland, Ireland, Britain, Iceland, and ultimately crossing westward over the seas and established the Americas. Yes we are the descendants of the lost Northern Ten Tribes of Israel. We are the chosen people of God. Look around the world, who is the last light of hope in the world? That does not mean that we are Jewish, for as you see by the division of the original 12 tribes descended from Jacob/Israel; Judah is only one of those twelve tribes, and Jews are only a small portion of them who mixed with the heathen both physically and religiously. As of Jan 2, 2000, there are only 13 million Jews on the planet (as per www.adherents.com), that is less than 1% of the total global population which is 6,099,686,302 (6 billion plus) as of 4:04 EDT Oct 1, 2000 per Popclock™. But in God's covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob He promised:Gen 13:1616 And I will make thy seed as the dust of the earth: so that if a man can number the dust of the earth, then shall thy seed also be numbered. (KJV)Gen 17:44 As for me, behold, my covenant is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations. (KJV)Gen 28:1414 And thy seed shall be as the dust of the earth, and thou shalt spread abroad to the west, and to the east, and to the north, and to the south: and in thee and in thy seed shall all the families of the earth be blessed. (KJV)Gen 35:1111 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins; (KJV)Gen 32:1212 And thou saidst, I will surely do thee good, and make thy seed as the sand of the sea, which cannot be numbered for multitude. (KJV) Rom 9:2727 Esaias also crieth concerning Israel, Though the number of the children of Israel be as the sand of the sea, a remnant shall be saved: (KJV) You do believe God don't you? I know you do. Well then, where are all these people now?!? Those that we now call 'Jews' today are only a portion of the true Tribe of Judah who have intermixed with their Babylonian captors, the heathen and profane descendants of Cain, the first murderer. In other words, all those of the tribe of Judah are not Jews, and none of the lost Ten Tribes are Jews. It is important to understand the differences so that you know who the Bible is speaking about in a particular verse. That is why in the New Testament, those who betrayed Christ and forced Pontius Pilot's hand into crucifying Jesus Christ were the High Jewish Priest Ca'-ia-phas and the Jewish Temple Hierarchy. They were corrupted both in morals and genealogy, and this explains why Jesus called them 'sons of Cain,' the son of the devil {Jn 8:44} whom was the first murderer in the Garden of Eden. Cain was not of the 12 tribes of Jacob (Israel and Judah combined), but his offspring, the Kenites, which means sons (offspring, no gender implied) of Cain, had intermixed with some of the true Tribe of Judah. These Kenites have mixed with all races and tribes of people on the earth. A Kenite is a descendant of Cain, the same Cain who was the first murderer in the Garden of Eden. Below is a definition from the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance:Kenite: Hebrew word #7017 Qeyniy (kay-nee'); or Qiyniy (1st Chron. 2:55) (kee-nee'); patronymic from Hebrew word #7014 (see below); a Kenite or member of the tribe of Kajin [Cain]:Cain: Hebrew word #7014 Qayin: As a proper noun, masculine: Cain = "possession"; the oldest son of Adam and Eve and the first murderer, having murdered his brother Abel.--------------------------------------------------------------------------------"...and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name..." {Isa 62:2} The Old Testament Prophets told that God would change the name of His people. They would be named after Him. And by the name "Christians" they were named after God. Jesus, which in the Hebrew language is: Yehoshua, which means: Yehovah’s (God’s) Savior, Salvation of Yehovah (God). And with Christ, His followers are called Christ men, hence: Christians. So then, in the New Testament prophecies in the book of Revelation, Christians are Israel, God’s chosen, called by a new name (Isa 62:2 below), called by His name - Jesus Christ - Christ men - Christians.Isa 62:22 And the Gentiles shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name. (KJV)Isa 62:1212 And they shall call them, The holy people, The redeemed of the LORD: and thou shalt be called, Sought out, A city not forsaken. (KJV)Isa 65:1515 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name (KJV)Jer 33:1616 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness. (KJV)Acts 11:2626 And when he had found him, he brought him unto Antioch. And it came to pass, that a whole year they assembled themselves with the church, and taught much people. And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch. (KJV) This should clear up Revelation chapter seven where the 144,000 "sealed of Israel" are mentioned, they are Christians who, since the Assyrian captivity and deportations of 611 B.C. were stripped of their name Israel! As it is written, because of idolatry, God caused Israel to not know who they are, and the rest of the world is also ignorant as to who true Israel is today:Deut 32:26 (God speaking)26 I said, I would scatter them [Israel] into corners [all corners of the world], I would make the remembrance of them to cease from among men (KJV) They (Israel) are mentioned in the New Testament though, for example, the book of James is written to them, written to us: "James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting." {James 1:1}. And again: "Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied." {1 Pet 1:1-2}.Do you know who you are? God Bless!http://www.biblestudysite.com/migrationmap.htm
     
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