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The description of the red moon in the Bible, over the years, I have witnessed such phenomena many times.
I'm very curious - exactly what constitutes a "blood moon" in the Bible?
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While signs in the sky can be a "sign" I don't put much stock on "blood moons" as far as certain prophecy based on the context and what the true color of blood that is intended by the writer:

blood moon - red moon OR dark moon?


Joe_2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

Act_2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

Rev_6:12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

The issue is what does it mean for the moon to "turn into blood"?


Blood can be 4 different colors, blue (in body), red (in and out of the body, lasts a short time), brown (outside of body), black/dark brown (outside of body)

Contextually Rev 6:12 has the sun going dark, so the moon would go dark too because without the sun we could not see the moon. If the sun goes dark, you could not see a red moon. So, the moon will be as dark as the sun and that is because at the second coming there is darkness:


Amos 5:20 Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?



Rev:6:12: And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;


It is a fact that blood turns brownish, to very dark in color after it begins to dry. The subject here is that the sun shall go dark. Since the moon simply reflects the suns light, when the sun darkens so does the moon. To say something was the color of blood means to say it was dark not that it was red.

God likes to make things somewhat hard to understand so he says something will be the color of blood, and that makes people think red when that shortest color it can be. The majority of the time it's out of the body it's dark, dark brown to black, and it's blue when seen in veins.

Both the sun and moon are darkened and give no light. Christ is angry, it’s the day of his wrath and he withholds light from the deceived/evil people of the world, those who have taken the mark of the beast. Christ is the true light of the world and he has cut them off from His glory.

Lets look at other verses that document that.


Matthew 24:29 Immediately ***after the tribulation*** of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Note that this happens after the tribulation. That means this happens when Christ returns.


Joel 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

Note that the word "before" means at that moment not before as in previous in time. It should be understood as "at" rather than "before" to end any confusion.

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This is like when a person would come before a judge for a matter. Which means that he is there at that moment facing the judge.

So, the verse says these things happen at the Lords day, and not "before" in the Lords day as it seems to imply.




Joel:3:13:
Put ye in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe: come, get you down; for the press is full, the fats overflow; for their wickedness is great. (KJV)
Joel:3:14:
Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision. (KJV)
Joel:3:15:
The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining. (KJV)


The subject is the Lord's day and how near it is, and then it proceeds to tell us of that day. Also take note that all stars stop shining. It's not just our star/sun. The entire universe will have no light. No light means no redness will be seen so rule out a "blood moon" and any idea of a lunar eclipse.


Zephaniah 1:14
The great day of the LORD is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the LORD: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.
Zephaniah 1:15
That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,

The subject is the Lord's day and how near it is, and then it proceeds to tell us of that dark, dark day.

Isa 13:9 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
Isa 13:10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

Not only our sun, but all suns in the heavens will stop shining!

The subject is the Lord's day and how near it is, and then it proceeds to tell us of that day.


Joe_2:10 The earth shall quake before them; the heavens shall tremble: the sun and the moon shall be dark, and the stars shall withdraw their shining:

Joe_3:15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.

Again, all suns will stop shining.

This is a complete darkening of the sun and moon, not a partial darkening as a third but totally darkened and not showing any light. This is not a darkness due to something such as "smoke" blocking the light.


Amos 5:18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
Amos 5:19 As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.
Amos 5:20 Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?


Amos 8:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord GOD, that I will cause the sun to go down at noon, and I will darken the earth in the clear day:

Matthew 27:45 Now from the sixth hour there was darkness over all the land unto the ninth hour.
Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?


It was dark during the day when Christ died, and it shall be dark again when he returns.

A red moon has no scriptural importance, sorry. I know its exciting to hear of red moons, and how they might signify special meanings and might indicate the endtimes are now or soon....but they don't :(


The moon is not going to be red when Christ returns. It will be completely dark as all stars and suns everywhere shall be.
 

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Matthew 24:29 Immediately ***after the tribulation*** of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Note that this happens after the tribulation. That means this happens when Christ returns.
Yes. This happens immediately after the great tribulation at the 6th seal. Jesus returns for a harvest which is the gathering from heaven and earth. All return to heaven and are the great multitude seen in Revelation 7. All are in heaven for the marriage supper.

Then the 7th seal is opened and the wrath of God begins. At the end of wrath Jesus returns with the armies of heaven for Armageddon.


Joel 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

Note that the word "before" means at that moment not before as in previous in time. It should be understood as "at" rather than "before" to end any confusion.
What? So you have to change the Word of God for it to make sense to you. You have to say, "God is wrong". In your mind, before doesn't mean before, it means at.

That should tell you that you are wrong. Have you ever thought about believing exactly what is written instead of changing what is written.
How can you understand the Word of God if you need to change the word of God.

The sun and moon are darkened, and the stars fall from heaven at the 6th seal, when Jesus comes for a harvest. This is before the great and terrible "day of the Lord", not at the great and terrible day of the Lord. The day of the Lord happens at the end of the 7th seal at the 7th trumpet/7th vial.

This is like when a person would come before a judge for a matter. Which means that he is there at that moment facing the judge.

So, the verse says these things happen at the Lords day, and not "before" in the Lords day as it seems to imply.
You are making things up. This is totally out of context.

The bailiff and the judge are seen BEFORE the great and terrible prison sentence is served.



The subject is the Lord's day and how near it is, and then it proceeds to tell us of that day. Also take note that all stars stop shining. It's not just our star/sun. The entire universe will have no light. No light means no redness will be seen so rule out a "blood moon" and any idea of a lunar eclipse.
Exactly. So at the 6th seal there will be a blood moon during an eclipse when Jesus comes for a harvest. However, at the Armageddon which occurs at the end of the 7th seal, there will be NO LIGHT when Jesus returns with the armies of heaven.

You have just disproven your own timeline. Note, see what happens when you don't change the Word of God.

A red moon has no scriptural importance, sorry. I know its exciting to hear of red moons, and how they might signify special meanings and might indicate the endtimes are now or soon....but they don't :(

No need to be sorry. God says something different.

Genesis 1
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
The moon is not going to be red when Christ returns. It will be completely dark as all stars and suns everywhere shall be.
The moon will be red at the 6th seal when Jesus returns for a harvest. Note, the stars fall from heaven at the 6th seal.
During a lunar eclipse the sun is both darkened and turned to blood. This is BEFORE the great and terrible day of the Lord which occurs at the end of the 7th seal. At the end of the 7th seal there is no light as the sun and moon are darkened and the stars withdraw their shining.

I would like to commend you for completely dismantling and disproving your end times timeline. Nice job.


Matthew 24
29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Revelation 6
12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
 
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The description of the red moon in the Bible, over the years, I have witnessed such phenomena many times.
I'm very curious - exactly what constitutes a "blood moon" in the Bible?
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Peter was quoting Joel chapter two in the verses below and Like clouds and the sun turning dark and the blood moon, it’s just a symbolic sign of Gods judgement

Acts2
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“‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18 Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.
19 I will show wonders in the heavens above
and signs on the earth below,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
20 The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
21 And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved.’[c]
 
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The moon will be red at the 6th seal when Jesus returns for a harvest.


Not red, but dark/black. There will be no light from the Sun so the moon will be dark. Red could not be seen due to no light.
 

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The description of the red moon in the Bible, over the years, I have witnessed such phenomena many times.
I'm very curious - exactly what constitutes a "blood moon" in the Bible?
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Like much of prophecy, the moon turning red was given after-the-fact. It speaks of "the lesser light" that God created "to rule the night." Which is to say, Satan the prince of darkness. The reference to red or blood, is to say, that God has turned mankind and this world over to Satan...thus also "the sun shall be turned to darkness", meaning God be as eclipsed during these days of the fallen, until the end.

Even so, Christ has shined as light into darkness.
 
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Not red, but dark/black. There will be no light from the Sun so the moon will be dark. Red could not be seen due to no light.
You still don't get it, even though you proved your timeline will not work.

At the 6th seal, the sun is darkened and moon is both darked and red because that's what happens in a lunar eclipse. Also, the stars fall from heaven. The second coming occurs at the 6th seal. It is a HARVEST. All believers go to heaven for the marriage supper. Then the 7th seal is opened and the wrath of God begins.

At the end of wrath, Armageddon occurs. That is when there is no light. The sun and moon are dark and the stars withdraw their light.

Joel 3
14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision.

15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.

So again. You proved all this in a previous post. You proved that your timeline does not work.

The 6th seal is the second coming when all eyes see the coming of the Lord. Jesus remains in the clouds and sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. All return to heaven and the great multitude seen in Revelation 7.

The 7th seal is the wrath of God. At the end of wrath, the armies of heaven come for Armageddon.

Do you understand why the stars fall from heaven at the 6th seal?
 

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You still don't get it, even though you proved your timeline will not work.

At the 6th seal, the sun is darkened and moon is both darked and red because that's what happens in a lunar eclipse. Also, the stars fall from heaven. The second coming occurs at the 6th seal. It is a HARVEST. All believers go to heaven for the marriage supper. Then the 7th seal is opened and the wrath of God begins.

At the end of wrath, Armageddon occurs. That is when there is no light. The sun and moon are dark and the stars withdraw their light.

Joel 3
14 Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision.

15 The sun and the moon shall be darkened, and the stars shall withdraw their shining.

So again. You proved all this in a previous post. You proved that your timeline does not work.

The 6th seal is the second coming when all eyes see the coming of the Lord. Jesus remains in the clouds and sends His angels to gather the elect from heaven and earth. All return to heaven and the great multitude seen in Revelation 7.

The 7th seal is the wrath of God. At the end of wrath, the armies of heaven come for Armageddon.

Do you understand why the stars fall from heaven at the 6th seal?
When did "the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David" begin to "open the scroll?" Revelation 5:5

I wonder if you know, and I wonder what that would do to your thoughts about the timing of loosening of the seals?

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God gives Humans ON Earth…Glimpses… of Prophetic Spiritual things.

Routinely generations of humans Have SEENl
The sun completely darken during the day.

Routinely generations of humans Have SEEN
The moon completely darken And at times appear Entirely RED.

Those are events…Typically…visible to a humans location…per World Hemisphere.
Scientifically categorized as Eclipses.

Sun darkening, Moon darkening, Moon appearing Red… are prophetic signs… and an expectation of Gods Works becoming manifested as forewarned.

Scientists can “forecast”… Eclipses, From patterns and weather conditions.

God is in control and can at any time … MAKE the sun, moon, a cloud, the Son of Man …. Appear to ALL eyes, (regardless of geographical location).

Glory to God,
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When did "the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David" begin to "open the scroll?" Revelation 5:5

I wonder if you know, and I wonder what that would do to your thoughts about the timing of loosening of the seals?

@ewq1938
None of the seals are opened as of yet.
 

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Ok. If the 1st seal is opened, who is the rider on the white horse?

Which seals do you think are opened?
People say the rider on the white horse is Jesus.

But let me ask you a question: If Jesus is "the Lamb slain before the foundation of world", and "the same yesterday, today, and forever", when would that mean He start riding a white horse?
 

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You still don't get it, even though you proved your timeline will not work.

At the 6th seal, the sun is darkened and moon is both darked and red because that's what happens in a lunar eclipse.


When the Sun stops shining, no one will see a red moon. It won't be seen at all.
 

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People say the rider on the white horse is Jesus.
What do you say? Is the rider on the white horse in the 1st seal Jesus?

But let me ask you a question: If Jesus is "the Lamb slain before the foundation of world", and "the same yesterday, today, and forever", when would that mean He start riding a white horse?
This has nothing to do with the 1st seal being opened.

Is Jesus the rider on the white horse when the 1st seal is opened.
 

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When the Sun stops shining, no one will see a red moon. It won't be seen at all.
The sun does not stop shining. It is darkened. And according to scripture the moon will be both darkened and as blood at the 6th seal.

This, of course, as shown earlier proves that your timeline is in error. Face FACTS. Face scripture. The 6th seal is the end of the tribulation and the 7th seal is the beginning and the end of wrath.
 

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Yes, it is He who "has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals.”
No. The rider on the white horse in the 1st seal is not Jesus.

Revelation 6
And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Jesus does not carry a bow. A bow is carried by Tammuz, Horus, Apollo etc. etc. etc. who is a false Christ. This is the beast of the earth. No one gives Jesus his crowns.

And a question for you. Which other seals do you consider open.
 

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No. The rider on the white horse in the 1st seal is not Jesus.

Revelation 6
And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.

2 And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer.

Jesus does not carry a bow. A bow is carried by Tammuz, Horus, Apollo etc. etc. etc. who is a false Christ. This is the beast of the earth. No one gives Jesus his crowns.

And a question for you. Which other seals do you consider open.
You error. The "bow" is that of a warrior, yes, who also carries a sword; but it also refers to the promise of God--whom is Christ--"And the light shines in the darkness"--like a rain"bow"--a "bow in the cloud," ("and the darkness did not comprehend it").

As for the rest of the seals, first things first.
 
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You error. The "bow" is that of a warrior, yes, who also carries a sword; but it also refers to the promise of God--whom is Christ--"And the light shines in the darkness"--like a rain"bow"--a "bow in the cloud," ("and the darkness did not comprehend it").

As for the rest of the seals, first things first.
No. It is you with the error on this.

Jesus mentions the false Christs. The rider on the white horse which carries a bow is the exact weapon of the false Christ as you will see with Tammuz, Horus and Apollo, etc. etc. etc. They carry a bow. This is the beast of the earth or the 7th king.

Matthew 24
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.

5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Here is the second false Christ that Jesus warns the Jews about. This is the beast of the sea which will be found in the desert, in the secret burial chamber. He was and is not and will come again. He is the eighth king.

Matthew 24
24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

25 Behold, I have told you before.

The seals will not be open until the Church is raptured as we can see in Revelation 5.

26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.