Reparations for slavery

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Since Germany was probably THE leading European nation at the time, one has to wonder how a clown like Hitler could bamboozle them. But then again Satan and his evil spirits were working with him to destroy Germany and exterminate the Jews. Christians must always look behind the scenes and discern that powerful evil spiritual forces are at work throughout the world, determined to destroy the West, establish a Muslim Caliphate as well as a Russian Empire, while China dominates the world and the USA becomes a third world country on a par with Central America and Mexico.

Just look at the 2016 US election, my blind friend
 

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Just look at the 2016 US election, my blind friend
Did you mean the unbelievable attempt of the Democrats and Clinton to subvert the election and declare the will of the people as null and void? The Democrats were bussing people illegally who had no business voting, and also garnering the votes of those who were dead ,or illegal aliens. Utterly shameful.

Had the polls been honest, had the media been honest, and had voter fraud (more dishonesty) been totally eradicated, Mr. Trump would have been ahead of Clinton by a much greater margin.

And even after Trump's victory was declared, there was absolutely no let up in undermining the President and attacking him daily. The Mueller Witch Hunt was a TOTALLY FABRICATED ATTEMPT at a coup d'etat. All those evil people in the DOJ, FBI, etc. should have been behind bars today.
 

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Here's some more rich stuff.

In Detroit, yes Detroit where you can get a house for less than a hundred dollars, there is a rap concert. A certain rap female artist who is biracial was scheduled to perform. But she has pulled out. Why? Racism!

The artist is Jillian Graham. And when she learned that white people were being charged double for the price of a ticket, she pulled out of it. Good for her.

Those black racist's can't see anything but money. Reparations. 'They owe us.' Somebody has to pay for them being black.

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Here's some more rich stuff.

In Detroit, yes Detroit where you can get a house for less than a hundred dollars, there is a rap concert. A certain rap female artist who is biracial was scheduled to perform. But she has pulled out. Why? Racism!

The artist is Jillian Graham. And when she learned that white people were being charged double for the price of a ticket, she pulled out of it. Good for her.

Those black racist's can't see anything but money. Reparations. 'They owe us.' Somebody has to pay for them being black.

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The Jews were slaves before the blacks, do they ask for reparations?
 

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The Jews were slaves before the blacks, do they ask for reparations?
It would appear that the black politicians in the USA are more evil than any other politicians. They have used their own people for their own self-interest, since they have done little or nothing to alleviate the condition of poor blacks in the cities.

Now they talk of reparations, but if the rest of the government agreed to this nonsense, where do you think that money would go? Directly into the pockets of these evil black politicians and agitators. This is just another scam.

But this is the time for the non-black politicians to stand up and say "Enough is enough. There will be no reparations, and black politicians will be brought to justice for all their evil deeds and neglect of their own people".
 

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How about the American Indian? How about the Southern white man. etc. etc. etc. Where are reparations for them?

The artist Jillian Graham has made a statement and should be credited. Politicians don't have that much guts usually.

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It would appear that the black politicians in the USA are more evil than any other politicians. They have used their own people for their own self-interest, since they have done little or nothing to alleviate the condition of poor blacks in the cities.

Now they talk of reparations, but if the rest of the government agreed to this nonsense, where do you think that money would go? Directly into the pockets of these evil black politicians and agitators. This is just another scam.

But this is the time for the non-black politicians to stand up and say "Enough is enough. There will be no reparations, and black politicians will be brought to justice for all their evil deeds and neglect of their own people".
Just look at Africa and it's leaders, what morons they have been and are all are total fools in fact and look what happened to South Africa, all the lefty here in Australia were crowing that South Africa would be better off with the Blacks taking over from the whites that were in power, but in fact the country just nosed dived and became a sh1t hole. as anyone with a brain knew that it would.
I worked with two black Africans who got out in time they are as black as they come but they were half Indian and half Negro and real good Christians and they informed all who wanted to listen of the reality's.

The Socialist always peddle equality but truth be tolled their is no such thing as equality, that's just utopia dribble, sadly the thing is that with socialism is, that all become just the piggy in the middle, coping the wrong end of the stick regardless.

I believe for sure that the white South Africans would of made much more progress for all in reality truth be tolled by now, than the way it has all went, it's a disgrace now and the way that the poor African blacks have been enslaved by the morons in control is an outrage.

Sure I know some white South African bastards here, that I despise for their cunning as to greed and are happy to walk over others if they can get away with it, they are a curse !
 

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Just look at Africa and it's leaders, what morons they have been and are all are total fools in fact and look what happened to South Africa, all the lefty here in Australia were crowing that South Africa would be better off with the Blacks taking over from the whites that were in power, but in fact the country just nosed dived and became a sh1t hole. as anyone with a brain knew that it would.
I worked with two black Africans who got out in time they are as black as they come but they were half Indian and half Negro and real good Christians and they informed all who wanted to listen of the reality's.

The Socialist always peddle equality but truth be tolled their is no such thing as equality, that's just utopia dribble, sadly the thing is that with socialism is, that all become just the piggy in the middle, coping the wrong end of the stick regardless.

I believe for sure that the white South Africans would of made much more progress for all in reality truth be tolled by now, than the way it has all went, it's a disgrace now and the way that the poor African blacks have been enslaved by the morons in control is an outrage.

Sure I know some white South African bastards here, that I despise for their cunning as to greed and are happy to walk over others if they can get away with it, they are a curse !
My company makes product for South Africa, and once in awhile they come to pay my facility a visit, they are all white South Africans, well come to find out they have to live on a compound for their own safety or they’d be killed and the women raped. This is the progression their country took once the blacks were given power, that’s not being racist it’s just truth.
 

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How about the American Indian? How about the Southern white man. etc. etc. etc. Where are reparations for them?

The artist Jillian Graham has made a statement and should be credited. Politicians don't have that much guts usually.

Stranger
Yes the American Indian, they want to put Harriet Tubman on the $20 Bill, why not an American Indian?
 

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@JohnPaul and @ReggieBelafonte

Yes, South Africa was the only example of civilization in Africa. Blacks thought if they could just take it over, then it is all theirs. But as soon as they do, it begins crumbling. Just like Detroit. And all those countries that supported the downfall of Apartheid and handing S. Africa over to the blacks,, are responsible for the murders and rapes of the whites over there today.

We have the very seed of that growing here in the U.S. with Kamala Harris and reparations.

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Here's something to think about:
1. The Civil was from 1861 to 1865.
2. The estimated total cost of this war was over 6 billion dollars (current dollars).
3. There were an estimated 4 million slaves at that time.
4. The estimated price of a slave was $500
5. The estimated average annual wage (non-slave) was $500
6. Had the US government simply compensated each slave owner with $500/slave and every emancipated slave with $500 cash (1 year's wages)
that would have been $1,000 x 4,000,000 = 4 billion.
7. The US government would have saved $2 billion and all the dreadful results of the Civil War. Even if the slave owners would have wanted a bit more, it would have been possible to give them a higher settlement. With proper records for each transaction, the talk of reparations today would have been laughed at.

In other words, the US government was foolish to engage in a Civil War when it would have been cheaper to settle with all parties in cash, and avoid 650,000 casualties (apart from the hatred generated between North and South and blacks vs whites). Like I said, it was a stupid idea.

When the US Constitution was formed, the vote to continue slavery was 7-6 for. Immediately, a law was passed forbidding anyone in the US to build slave ships for the trade. The US ship building ability was outgrowing all shipbuilding in the world. Laws were passed as the slave population grew eventually forbidding any more slaves from Africa. Slaves born here were traded and sold as property. Meanwhile, slaves that escaped the south were to be returned to the south. Laws written and approved by Congress. Northern states by way of a small minority, abolitionists began preventing slaves from being returned. While the north held their own slaves, slaves in the south were not being returned and north ignored the violations. Eventually the Abolitionists were so emboldened, they began crossing the border and attacking farms nearby including killing citizens in the south. The north refused to turn over the criminals from the north.

If you believe the north to be almost saints ..... the north proved to be more racist than the south. Manufacturing and industry refused to hire slaves from the south. After the Secession, the north faced tremendous financial pressure. Over 70% of the income of the country, came by way of southern ports and tariffs trading with foreign nations. Lincoln felt he needed to act. His military advisors made a huge mistake. They crossed to Potomac into Virginia promising Lincoln they would win easily. Bull Run "Manassas" was a rout. The northern armies driven from the battlefield and back across the river. Had Lee been in command ....Washington DC would have fallen in that first day. Lincoln should have negotiated and waited ....there would have been no war.

Reality should have been present before the first shots were fired. Years of fighting and the north was not doing well at all. Then a surge and the north began making headway. Lincoln planned to end the slave issue. He approached Congress and asked them to violate one of the first laws written by the new country. Remember, this a north only congress, all southern seats vacated. Congress and Lincoln form a plan. Build ships to transport slaves ......away from the US. Latin America and Africa the choice. $600,000 was appropriated to build the ships. Lincoln wanted ships to transport slaves, violating one of the first laws of the country. and Congress gave him the money to do so.

Lincoln invites Frederick Douglas and other free black men to the White House. Lincoln presents his plan. Douglas and the leaders storm out of the White House in a rage. Weeks later the Emancipation Proclamation is written and presented. The racist thing about the Proclamation? It does not free one slave in the north, still owned by northern owners. Blacks are still not welcome to work in northern factories.

Eventually Sherman under Grant starts his march to the seas. Nearing the ocean, Sherman issues a Field Order. Along the way and the path of destruction, freed slaves follow the Northern column . They begin to set up the camps, cook, clean and support the northern troops in all matters ....The Field Order states "For those who supported and followed the northern columns ....40 acres and mule would be given to everyone of those freed slaves. Simply put .....40 acres near Savannah and the mule would not have to be shot at the end of the war. Save a bullet and burial of the mule. The war comes to and end and several of the first lawsuits filed ......against the north by north slave-owners for the loss of their property. However the north freed the black man. Keep in mind, Jackie Robinson, was taken to the back of hotels in New York City and through the kitchen because the North was so racist, he could not get off the bus in front of the hotel.

After the war, another plan was suggested. A colony of freed blacks, controlling their own state in southern Georgia. Property for the free men. Once again, the black leadership of the country failed their own population. They refused the offer. Lincoln was assassinated shortly afterwards.
 

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Slavery is an ugly past of our history, I believe their Descendents deserve reparations, as do the Indians but how would the government go about doing that?
 

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This is rich stuff any way you look at it. All them yankees beating down the South for slavery. They support the blacks in tearing down our monuments, our flags, our songs, anything Southern. Now, you get to pay for it.

Yep, all them blacks are wanting you to give them money for their ancestors being slaves. of course it is just the blacks that were descended from slaves. And how many do you think that will be? About 120% I would say.

What is Corey Booker up to? Please. He is buying votes. He has made the division that if you don't give blacks money then you are the opposition. And he is for giving the blacks the money. Are there any blacks who would turn that down? No. Like I said, 120%.

The liberal left is buying Mexican votes for immigration in declaring health care for illegals or drivers license. Now it is buying votes for blacks...reparations.

What reparations are there going to be for the American Indian? What reparations are there going to be for the Southern White civilian People who the yankees made war against when they found it too costly to fight the Southern men?

Oh yes, we all got reparations coming. But only if your black do you have any chance of getting it.

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The oppressions exercised in the past for gain are on their way home to roost. It reveals that the exercise of sin has long tentacles in its effect.
 

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This is rich stuff any way you look at it. All them yankees beating down the South for slavery. They support the blacks in tearing down our monuments, our flags, our songs, anything Southern. Now, you get to pay for it.

Yep, all them blacks are wanting you to give them money for their ancestors being slaves. of course it is just the blacks that were descended from slaves. And how many do you think that will be? About 120% I would say.

What is Corey Booker up to? Please. He is buying votes. He has made the division that if you don't give blacks money then you are the opposition. And he is for giving the blacks the money. Are there any blacks who would turn that down? No. Like I said, 120%.

The liberal left is buying Mexican votes for immigration in declaring health care for illegals or drivers license. Now it is buying votes for blacks...reparations.

What reparations are there going to be for the American Indian? What reparations are there going to be for the Southern White civilian People who the yankees made war against when they found it too costly to fight the Southern men?

Oh yes, we all got reparations coming. But only if your black do you have any chance of getting it.

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Corey Booker is a fake all the years he was Mayor of Newark New Jersey, he didn't do anything for that city instead crime was at its highest, I'm a Newark Native.
 

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Slavery is an ugly past of our history, I believe their Descendents deserve reparations, as do the Indians but how would the government go about doing that?

I don't see how it can be justified. The Democrat Party voted in and gave "reparations" for decades after the LBJ signed the greatest giveaway in US history. We have been paying reparations for decades already. What I see as possible reparations? Prove your ancestor followed Sherman to the sea and now you get your 40 acres and a mule. That was all that was promised.

However, the black leadership of this country for over 100 years has proven they'd rather line their own pockets than take care of what they call "Their People." That's not racist, that's the truth.
 

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I don't see how it can be justified. The Democrat Party voted in and gave "reparations" for decades after the LBJ signed the greatest giveaway in US history. We have been paying reparations for decades already. What I see as possible reparations? Prove your ancestor followed Sherman to the sea and now you get your 40 acres and a mule. That was all that was promised.

However, the black leadership of this country for over 100 years has proven they'd rather line their own pockets than take care of what they call "Their People." That's not racist, that's the truth.
And what of the Indians?