Revelation 12 walk through

[Bladerunner]

Rev 13 all of it but specifically 13:5-7 and the rest of 13

He has the power to kill and make miracles. and He will kill many Christians (elect) as Martyrs..

The stars don't literally fall upon the earth. When the second heaven parts like a scroll, the stars will appear to fall on the horizon.

The stars falling to earth are most likely the parts a volcano has spit out of the earth. Rem, Jesus commanded John to write what He saw..What would John all a modern MISSLE. (a smart arrow, or just an arrow), John is speaking to the people of the first century. The stars fell to earth....and the sun and moon did not show their lights...because of the fires going on around the world????look at it as John would have seen it.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

The stars falling to earth are most likely the parts a volcano has spit out of the earth. Rem, Jesus commanded John to write what He saw..What would John all a modern MISSLE. (a smart arrow, or just an arrow), John is speaking to the people of the first century. The stars fell to earth....and the sun and moon did not show their lights...because of the fires going on around the world????look at it as John would have seen it.

He also saw a woman sitting on many waters while riding on a beast with seven heads and ten horns. So, we should take that literally in some sense, also?

 

[Bladerunner]

He also saw a woman sitting on many waters while riding on a beast with seven heads and ten horns. So, we should take that literally in some sense, also?

And that is why I also read it grammatically. who is the woman sitting on many water while she rides the beast? Would 'Jezebel' come to mind or maybe the ROC. What are the seven Heads and the ten horns.....?????We can go back to the OT and find these out. The seven countries and ten kings (three of which will be killed). Who is the beast?????I'll let you decipher that.

 

[Deleted member 26788]

And that is why I also read it grammatically. who is the woman sitting on many water while she rides the beast? Would 'Jezebel' come to mind or maybe the ROC. What are the seven Heads and the ten horns.....?????We can go back to the OT and find these out. The seven countries and ten kings (three of which will be killed). Who is the beast?????I'll let you decipher that.

the woman is ''religion '' false religion . primarily Christendom

 

[Bladerunner]

He also saw a woman sitting on many waters while riding on a beast with seven heads and ten horns. So, we should take that literally in some sense, also?

the woman is ''religion '' false religion . primarily Christendom

Yes, and what religion has more blood on it than Jezebel did....ROC. for in 1 afternoon, 1 pope killed more Christians than the Roman Army did in 1500 years.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

And that is why I also read it grammatically. who is the woman sitting on many water while she rides the beast? Would 'Jezebel' come to mind or maybe the ROC. What are the seven Heads and the ten horns.....?????We can go back to the OT and find these out. The seven countries and ten kings (three of which will be killed). Who is the beast?????I'll let you decipher that.

Great job of missing the point. Well done.

 

[Davy]

the woman is ''religion '' false religion . primarily Christendom

That's just STUPID!

If Christianity is false religion, then you need to LEAVE THIS FORUM IMMEDIATELY, AND REMOVE YOUR AVATAR WHERE YOU CLAIM TO BE A 'CHRISTIAN'.

I bet you didn't know you are telling a LIE even about yourself when you made your above statement against Christendom, which means Christianity.

 

[Bladerunner]

Great job of missing the point. Well done.

maybe you never knew the point...God's WORD.

 

[Deleted member 26788]

That's just STUPID!

If Christianity is false religion, then you need to LEAVE THIS FORUM IMMEDIATELY, AND REMOVE YOUR AVATAR WHERE YOU CLAIM TO BE A 'CHRISTIAN'.

I bet you didn't know you are telling a LIE even about yourself when you made your above statement against Christendom, which means Christianity.

You seem to be under the delusion that just because someone says they are Christian does not mean they are acceptable with the Kingdom of God

Matthew 7:23 Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you​

 

[PS95]

the woman is ''religion '' false religion . primarily Christendom

Your JW religion is false. The truth is only in knowing Christ. He is the truth. KNOW HIM!!

 

[Davy]

You seem to be under the delusion that just because someone says they are Christian does not mean they are acceptable with the Kingdom of God

Matthew 7:23 Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you​

Your statement above reveals even greater how crazy your reasoning and statements are. ALL TRUE CHRISTIANS ARE ACCEPTABLE WITH THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

NO TRUE CHRISTIAN would claim that title of CHRISTIAN if they DID NOT believe in the KINGDOM OF GOD!

And the Matthew 7 Scripture you quote, YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT IT IS ABOUT, because Jesus was speaking that to BELIEVING CHRISTIANS that THOUGHT they were following HIM, yet they fell away because of doing INIQUITY, thus He showed He will turn those away when He returns. ONLY CHRIST'S FAITHFUL WILL BE SAVED AND REIGN WITH HIM IN HIS FUTURE KINGDOM ON EARTH OVER ALL NATIONS.

 

[Deleted member 26788]

Your statement above reveals even greater how crazy your reasoning and statements are. ALL TRUE CHRISTIANS ARE ACCEPTABLE WITH THE KINGDOM OF GOD.

NO TRUE CHRISTIAN would claim that title of CHRISTIAN if they DID NOT believe in the KINGDOM OF GOD!

And the Matthew 7 Scripture you quote, YOU DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHAT IT IS ABOUT, because Jesus was speaking that to BELIEVING CHRISTIANS that THOUGHT they were following HIM, yet they fell away because of doing INIQUITY, thus He showed He will turn those away when He returns. ONLY CHRIST'S FAITHFUL WILL BE SAVED AND REIGN WITH HIM IN HIS FUTURE KINGDOM ON EARTH OVER ALL NATIONS.

ah ,you feel God is so disparate to be worshiped he will take all he can get .

as for what some one ''believes'' is irrelevant. otherwise there would be no judgement to be made for those that get life or death .

 

[Davy]

ah ,you feel God is so disparate to be worshiped he will take all he can get .

What a mockery attitude you have. You're not worth having a conversation with by that attitude.

 

[Deleted member 26788]

I should like to think that you know that God has standers . the law he gave Israel condemned men to death if they violated certain laws others were punished with whipping for violating other laws . if there are people that call them selves Christian and are morally deficient ,they fall out side of the lines of being acceptable.

 

[Jay Ross]

I should like to think that you know that God has standers . the law he gave Israel condemned men to death if they violated certain laws others were punished with whipping for violating other laws . if there are people that call them selves Christian and are morally deficient ,they fall out side of the lines of being acceptable.

Not quite. The Law said that those who broke certain laws would become a candidate for experiencing the second death after the final judgement.

 

[Deleted member 26788]

Not quite. The Law said that those who broke certain laws would become a candidate for experiencing the second death after the final judgement.

to get a 2nd death there would have to be a Resurrection for them to live again to then sin a sin deserving death . they loose their lives because they refuse to live by the standers set by God. by dying in the first death a person pays for their sin. resurrected they would be with out sin until they refuse to live by God's set of standards .

 

[Jay Ross]

to get a 2nd death there would have to be a Resurrection for them to live again to then sin a sin deserving death . they loose their lives because they refuse to live by the standers set by God. by dying in the first death a person pays for their sin. resurrected they would be with out sin until they refuse to live by God's set of standards .

What the? You are not making any sense.

 

[Deleted member 26788]

What the? You are not making any sense.

read it slower

 

[Jay Ross]

read it slower

I read your post a couple of times and realised that you did not understand what I had actually posted.

When we become a candidate for the second death because of our sin, the second death comes into play when we are judged at the time of the GWTR judgement. When the time of judgement comes, the dead will be raised first and those alive at that time will follow them into the GWTR and all will be judged. Some to everlasting life while the rest will be dispatched into the Lake of Fire.

That is why I posted, "You are not making any sense."

 

[amigo de christo]

Great job of missing the point. Well done.

The stars represent the third of the angels which followed satan and fell from heaven .
Notice His tail drew the third of the stars .
And in another place it describe an angel as a star .