LOL. Get serious. Nice job of skating around what the scripture clearly shows. Luke 16:19-31 is not a parable. Parables contain descriptions of fictional people and places. But, Luke 16:19-31 describes real people and real places.
Nothing was 'skated', but all explained in detail. What I have seen from you is simply not addressing the material I provided in response, and then you re-stating your opinions again. Parables do
not all use "fictional people and places" as shown in the material I provided. Why not address those things I have provided from scripture itself which shows the man-made rule you have postulated to be found nowhere in scripture (which is why you did not provide any evidence for your position, as I had).
Because they are physically dead.
Moses is not dead in the NT text, but was resurrected by Jesus (and I provided those scriptures and texts). Elijah never died, and was translated alive without seeing (experiencing) death (and I provided those scriptures and texts as well). So, I have provided scripture, and you have provided 'you' again in response without any scripture.
No, please consult the texts I graciously provided again.
"made to appear"? No, they were physically there and present upon the mountain. Consider the evidence I provided.
Luk 9:30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias:
Luk 9:31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.
Luk 9:32 But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him.
so that Peter, James and John could see them, but they had not been bodily resurrected from the dead.
Moses had already been resurrected from the dead long before those NT events, and I have already provided those scriptures in the previous linked chapters.
Elijah never needed to be resurrected, having never seen (experienced) death in the first place. Those texts were already provided. Why not address those texts instead of simply citing 'you'.
Scripture teaches that Jesus was the first to be resurrected unto bodily immortality with a glorified body. Not Moses and Elijah.
Acts 26:23 that the Christ would suffer, that He would be the first to rise from the dead, and would proclaim light to the Jewish people and to the Gentiles.”
1 Corinthians 15:20 But now Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive. 23 But each one in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, afterward those who are Christ’s at His coming.
No, you have misunderstood those texts. The word (G4413) "first" in Act. 26:23, means "chief", "foremost" in place / position. In other words, Jesus is the chiefest or foremost (the most important one) of those who would be resurrected, for all in Him would be resurrected in His resurrection, including Moses' previous resurrection (since the promise was given in the beginning. Gen. 3:15,21 KJB).
Act 26:23 That Christ should suffer, and that he should be the first that should rise from the dead, and should shew light unto the people, and to the Gentiles.
Act 26:23 ει παθητος ο χριστος ει πρωτος εξ αναστασεως νεκρων φως μελλει καταγγελλειν τω λαω και τοις εθνεσιν
This is why scripture says:
Col_1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
This does not mean that Jesus was the first to be resurrected in time, but that His resurrection was the foremost, in which all others in him would be resurrected. The promise of that resurrection was from the beginning, but was not carried out until 4000 years (ish) later, and in the meantime, others had been resurrecrted, and Moses' case was permanently resurrected (Jud. 1:9 KJB, &c.), the first to permanently break the bonds of death (Rom. 5:14 KJB)
Rom_5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Yes, Jesus is the "firstfruits", along with that special group that were raised with Him (as already pointed out by scripture in the previous links), but Moses, was a special case, allowed of God, to demonstrate in typology that there would be a group at the end raised from the dead, permanently, in Christ Jesus, while Elijah, represented (also a special case, as Enoch), that there would be a group alive and not see (experience) death and be translated alive. This is why God chose them. Moses' resurrection and Elijah's translation were in Christ Jesus, and the promise from the beginning, which Jesus was to carry out in stages at later times.
Moses and Elijah were literally standing on that Mount of Transfiguration, very much alive and "in glory", having those glories immortal bodies of the permanent resurrection and / or translation.
You are blatantly contradicting Paul with your false belief.
No, Paul explains Paul in several differing places, as I have shown on several occasions now.
Paul gave the order of resurrections unto bodily immortality and he indicated that Christ's resurrection was first in order.
No, Paul gave that Christ's resurrection was the most important, and in Whom all others are permanntly resurrected. You misunderstood the words, and are thinking 'first in time / history' when the text, and word, does not say that at all. The texts simply stated that Jesus' resurrection is the primary (first) one, in Whom all others are to be permanently resurrected.
Elijah never died:
2Ki 2:9 And it came to pass, when they were gone over, that Elijah said unto Elisha, Ask what I shall do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Elisha said, I pray thee, let a double portion of thy spirit be upon me.
2Ki 2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
This is why the Pharisees looked for the coming down of Elijah from heaven in the NT when they misunderstood Jesus' words on the cross, based on:
Mal_4:5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:
Moses, died, and was resurrected: by the very LORD that had buried him
Rom_5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
Jud 1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
The bodies of Moses and Elijah will be resurrected in the future
No. Already shown from the texts perviously given.
Those two are already alive in the 3rd Heaven.
Luk 9:30 And, behold, there talked with him two men, which were Moses and Elias:
Luk 9:31 Who appeared in glory, and spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem.
Luk 9:32 But Peter and they that were with him were heavy with sleep: and when they were awake, they saw his glory, and the two men that stood with him.
2Pe_1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
when Christ returns along with the rest of the dead in Christ.
Jesus is not returning with "the rest of the dead". Jesus is coming to resurrect the dead in Christ and take them back to the Father's house (Jhn. 14:1-4; 1 Thes. 4:14,16-17, &c.) The dead are in their graves, not in heaven. This was why I provided all of the texts, evidence, and links so that you may have the facts and not merely 'you'.
