Revelation 4 interpretation

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Rev 4.4 After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” 2 At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it. 3 And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and ruby. A rainbow that shone like an emerald encircled the throne. 4 Surrounding the throne were twenty-four other thrones, and seated on them were twenty-four elders. They were dressed in white and had crowns of gold on their heads. 5 From the throne came flashes of lightning, rumblings and peals of thunder. In front of the throne, seven lamps were blazing. These are the seven spirits of God. 6 Also in front of the throne there was what looked like a sea of glass, clear as crystal.

In the center, around the throne, were four living creatures, and they were covered with eyes, in front and in back. 7 The first living creature was like a lion, the second was like an ox, the third had a face like a man, the fourth was like a flying eagle. 8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying:

“‘Holy, holy, holy
is the Lord God Almighty,’
who was, and is, and is to come.”

9 Whenever the living creatures give glory, honor and thanks to him who sits on the throne and who lives for ever and ever, 10 the twenty-four elders fall down before him who sits on the throne and worship him who lives for ever and ever. They lay their crowns before the throne and say:

11 “You are worthy, our Lord and God,
to receive glory and honor and power,
for you created all things,
and by your will they were created
and have their being.”


In 1 Chron 24, David set up 24 head priests, descended from Aaron. This was just the random number that developed from the number of families descended from Aaron at that time. It may have been God's way of expressing a double witness to the significance of Israel's 12 tribes. Everything was confirmed, as legitimate testimony under the Law, when there was a minimum of 2 witnesses. Aaron had two surviving sons, from whom these 24 leading priests were taken.

So the 24 elders appear to serve as representatives of the priestly order of Christ, whose atonement opened the gate for our entry into Heaven. They were dressed in white to show that Christians, who have access to Heaven, are made pure in the blood of Christ. And they had gold crowns, indicating that Christians have the authority of Christ, their head, to judge the world.

The lightning and thunder indicate that the purification of the Church leads to judgment of this world. The 7 blazing lamps are representative of the 7 churches in John's time, among which the faithful live by the Spirit of God. This brings conviction and judgment to the world around them.

I would suggest that these agents, ie the 24 elders and the 7 spirits, are angels, who represent what Christ has done for and in the Church. And the same follows for the 4 living creatures. They are angels representing something with respect to Christians, whom Christ has redeemed by his sacrifice.

These 4 creatures have the face of a man, which hearkens back to the Creation, when God gave Man rulership over the earth and over its creatures. These particular creatures serve the purpose of Man, after his redemption, to bring judgment upon the earth.

This judgment has been ongoing, from the time of the Fall, and even after the redeeming work of Christ. And it will be consummated at the Return of Christ, when the world will be judged in the Battle of Armageddon, and in Eternity through Christ's final sentencing.

The 4 creatures include both a lion and a flying eagle, both signifying God's predatory judgments against sinners, whether nations or their rulers. The "flying" eagle signifies that the judgment is already in process.

The 4 creatures also include an ox, representative of the plowing up of hardened land. The hardened land indicates nations, including Israel, who have resisted the Gospel of Christ, and must be plowed up in order to fulfill God's purposes on earth.

All of these things, before God's throne, indicates what transpires from the time of Christ's death to the consummation of His purposes at the Return of Christ. Judgment is ongoing, but delayed, until final judgment falls at the Return of Christ.
 

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8 Each of the four living creatures had six wings and was covered with eyes all around, even under its wings. Day and night they never stop saying:

“‘Holy, holy, holy
is the Lord God Almighty,’
who was, and is, and is to come.”

Maybe relevant to your OP, or maybe not, though this says Day and night they never stop saying this, a cpl of things prove this isn't literally meaning every second of the day nor is it meaning they will be doing this forever, saying Holy, holy, holy
is the Lord God Almighty,’
who was, and is, and is to come

This part proves it---and is to come. Obviously, once He actually comes they are not going to still be saying this--who was, and is, and is to come. To continue saying that once He has come---and is to come--is nonsensical.

Revelation 6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.


Take, for example, this verse. When one of the four beasts is saying, Come and see, how could the 4 beasts also be saying this at the same time--Holy, holy, holy
is the Lord God Almighty,’
who was, and is, and is to come?

The point being, Day and night they never stop saying---doesn't literally mean every second of the day they never stop saying this. Then something else to factor in, what does day and night have to do with heaven to begin with, when heaven is timeless and doesn't experience day and night there? Why use 'day and night' to express what the 4 beasts are saying?
 

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Maybe relevant to your OP, or maybe not, though this says Day and night they never stop saying this, a cpl of things prove this isn't literally meaning every second of the day nor is it meaning they will be doing this forever, saying Holy, holy, holy
is the Lord God Almighty,’
who was, and is, and is to come

This part proves it---and is to come. Obviously, once He actually comes they are not going to still be saying this--who was, and is, and is to come. To continue saying that once He has come---and is to come--is nonsensical.

Revelation 6:1 And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see.


Take, for example, this verse. When one of the four beasts is saying, Come and see, how could the 4 beasts also be saying this at the same time--Holy, holy, holy
is the Lord God Almighty,’
who was, and is, and is to come?

The point being, Day and night they never stop saying---doesn't literally mean every second of the day they never stop saying this. Then something else to factor in, what does day and night have to do with heaven to begin with, when heaven is timeless and doesn't experience day and night there? Why use 'day and night' to express what the 4 beasts are saying?
All good points. I don't know.
 
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Davidpt commented:

<isn't literally meaning every second of the day>

I agree with you, "day and night" = "continually," not "continuously." It is a figure of speech.

These are cherubim (a.k.a. "living creatures") in the Temple in heaven. They are incredibly powerful, and they can change their appearance at will. Satan is a cherub (Ezekiel 28:14-19).
 
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The 4 Living Creatures.

Then before the throne, in the midst, we are shown what seem to be `living creatures.` These are representations of the Lord`s ministries as to how He will bring restoration.

`Before the throne there was a sea of glass, like crystal. And in the midst of the throne, and around the throne, were four living creatures full of eyes in front and behind.

The first living creature was like a lion,

the second living creature like a calf,

the third living creature had a face like a man,

and the fourth living creature was like a flying eagle.`

(Rev. 4: 6 & 7)


The 4 living creatures are Christ`s Spirit of life, shown separately as 4 but in reality blended majestically into one Royal Divine Person, the Lord Jesus Christ.


Christ the King – (Lion)

Christ the Sacrifice (Heir) – (Calf)

Christ the Mediator – (Man)

Christ the Creator – (Eagle)



For Christ to fulfill God`s plan, His covenant to man, He needs to function in each area.


Christ is given the ultimate authority to rule, (Lion)

Christ humbled Himself to be the ultimate sacrifice, (Calf).

Christ is both God & man to be the Mediator of both, (Man).

Christ has ultimate power to create all things new, (Eagle).
 
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IMO:

The four living creatures are Cherubim. Satan is a Cherub.

This is a glimpse of the true temple in heaven. See Ezekiel, chapters 40-48.
 
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I would suggest that these agents, ie the 24 elders and the 7 spirits, are angels, who represent what Christ has done for and in the Church. And the same follows for the 4 living creatures. They are angels representing something with respect to Christians, whom Christ has redeemed by his sacrifice.
The 24 elders are men. Christ has come as they have gold crowns on their head which they cast before the throne. The gold crowns are talked about in Revelation 3.
 
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The Light noted:

<There will be men in heaven with new bodies......after a rapture.>

I certainly agree. The apostle Paul spoke of being caught up (a.k.a. "raptured") to heaven in Romans 12:1-6, and that would likely require an imperishable body, different from what we have now.

We look forward to the new earth, in which righteousness prevails (Revelation 21:1-22:21).
 
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Randy Kluth noted:

<All good points. I don't know.>

IMO:

o. "Day and night" is a figure of speech indicating the same thing as "eating day and night" (i.e. continually, not continuously).

o. The four living creatures are cherubim.
 
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There will be men in heaven with new bodies......after a rapture.
Amen! And after The Bema Seat Judgment Of The Body Of Christ, those with
'crowns' will be awaiting This Event...


"And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon​
fought and his angels, And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven. And​
the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth​
the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."​
(Revelation 12:7-9 AV)​

...in order to "rule and reign" occupying "Those Vacant positions left behind by "fallen angels",
as "Part of God's Restoration of The Heavens",
eh?

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And, precious friend(s), Please Be Very Richly Encouraged and Edified
In The Lord Jesus Christ and In His Precious Word Of Truth, Rightly
Divided:


The Bible: The BIG Picture

Amen.
 

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Oh, but there is so much more!

Revelation Chapter 4 is a continuation of the revelation of Jesus Christ--"things which must take place after this” refers rather to "after" "the revelation of Jesus Christ"--who is both First and Last: Meaning it is a revelation from the beginning of time unto the end.

If you can understand that this world of would-be Time is set within the actual reality of God and the universe--His universe--and I don't mean the starry host above, but heaven above. Then understand that Time only ticks in the revealing--which is not reality--even if it is all we know.

This all is part of the prophecy of "time no longer" (Revelation 10:6), where this reality regarding Time is revealed--which changes everything! But what did we think--that eternity was endless time? On the contrary--it is the end of time! So, what, then--from here are we going to eternity or not? What is your choice: The perfect, timeless eternity of God, or passing away as the world is passing away?

If we choose "life", as God has set before us all, "life and death, blessing and cursing"--what did you think--that God would not reveal what the reality of His eternity--that place we hopefully choose to go?

Well...it starts with the revelation of "time no longer" in the book of Revelation, and what it actually means as Christ is fully revealed. The question is--do you actually want to receive the revelation, or just wait until you die and then wake up to the shocking reality of what is true?
 
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IMO:

"Time no longer" (Revelation 10:6) = "no further delay."

"Bema" according to one webpage is Hebrew בימה = "a raised platform or pulpit where the Torah scroll is placed and read during synagogue services."
 
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IMO:
God is invisible (Colossians 1:15), so there is no representation of God the Father in the Temple. Likewise for the Spirit of God.
 

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The Light noted:

<There will be men in heaven with new bodies......after a rapture.>

I certainly agree. The apostle Paul spoke of being caught up (a.k.a. "raptured") to heaven in Romans 12:1-6,


Not to "heaven" but to the clouds of Earth known as the 1st heaven but not the heaven where God is.
 

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God is invisible (Colossians 1:15), so there is no representation of God the Father in the Temple. Likewise for the Spirit of God.


God the Father is not invisible since many have seen him.
 
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EWQ1938 noted:
<God the Father is not invisible since many have seen him.>

My Bible says God is invisible (Colossians 1:15, 1Timothy 1:17, Hebrews 11:27).
 

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EWQ1938 noted:
<God the Father is not invisible since many have seen him.>

My Bible says God is invisible (Colossians 1:15, 1Timothy 1:17, Hebrews 11:27).


Can you see my car? No, it's invisible to you. God can be the same way because he is too far to see, plus being God he could make himself invisible in person also but since men have seen him, and the others of the Trinity we know any such invisibility is non-permanent.
 
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ewq1938 noted:

<Not to "heaven" but to the clouds of Earth known as the 1st heaven but not the heaven where God is>

There is not any oxygen there in the upper atmosphere, will the people have oxygen masks?