Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

[marks]

Like it repeats the same thing using a different word.? Is that the term for it?

Yes, according to what I've learned.

....in this case I think the unjust and filthy mean the same thing...unredeemed fallen man. And the righteous (just) and holy (clean, not filthy) mean the same thing too...the redeemed. But maybe there is another way to look at it I dont' know....it's just that the first place I try to look for understanding is to the bible itself and let it interpret itself.

I relate these to Ephesians 2, of the unsaved, fulfilling the lusts of the flesh (filthy) and of the mind (unjust).

Concerning righteousness and holiness, holiness is being set apart for God's exclusive use, and righteous is the state of being and doing what is right.

Much love!

 

[ProDeo]

I’ve learned pretty much everything I know about Christianity through Bible and doctrinal discussions with other believers. I feel like my understanding of what it means to be crucified with Christ may be lacking.

Rom 6:6 We know that our old self was crucified with him in order that the body of sin might be brought to nothing, so that we would no longer be enslaved to sin.

But read the whole chapter for context.

 

[Lizbeth]

but the very sad thing is that people don't tend to go that deep anymore, to be crucified with Christ. It takes a REAL man or woman of God to "sell all they have" and follow Christ.
People don't realize that we've each been given the perfect gift (without blemish) to sacrifice to God...but will we??

Amen to that (though I am just rejoining the conversation after an internet outage and don't know what the argument is about).

 

[Laurina]

You’re not a nobody. You don’t have to answer, I just thought it might be good to dig into to that aspect.

Hi,
I don't feel qualified to answer because my sacrifice has not yet been accepted. But I have hope because in Genesis 4:7 it says, "If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted?" Which means to me, with how I understand, is that my whole heart has not yet been engaged. It takes a whole heart. I heard someone say, "you need enough water in the tank to be able to flush it." Unless it's 100% it's not enough. So here I am, trusting, hoping, looking for inspiration to be able to cry out to God with a whole heart.
I believe that someone who has actually experienced this is better able to share, then just giving "opinions or thoughts".
That is why I am reading "Madame Guyon's Autobiography." She experienced this. For me, this has helped my understanding of what it would take.

 

[Laurina]

1Petr 3:15 but in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

Thanks, I answered.

 

[IndianaRob]

Hi,
I don't feel qualified to answer because my sacrifice has not yet been accepted. But I have hope because in Genesis 4:7 it says, "If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted?" Which means to me, with how I understand, is that my whole heart has not yet been engaged. It takes a whole heart. I heard someone say, "you need enough water in the tank to be able to flush it." Unless it's 100% it's not enough. So here I am, trusting, hoping, looking for inspiration to be able to cry out to God with a whole heart.
I believe that someone who has actually experienced this is better able to share, then just giving "opinions or thoughts".
That is why I am reading "Madame Guyon's Autobiography." She experienced this. For me, this has helped my understanding of what it would take.

Just from from what you said there, you’re on the right track!