Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

[ProDeo]

I do not know....I don't judge that. That's between you and God...but I hope that you do or will.

I am a sinner, so of course I fear God. I know myself, my talents, my weak points, the latter I fear. I am deeply impressed what Jesus said to Peter in Luke 22:31-32. I have asked Jesus to pray for me too. I am NOSAS, so enduring till the end, death.

I also know that I don't have to live in fear all days long for my salvation, Scripture states I am bought with a price, sealed with the Holy Spirit. And I believe it.

For me that's the balance (all of it above) I spoke about in post 1201.

 

[Episkopos]

2Cor 5:21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. [ESV]
2Cor 5:21 for him who did not know sin, in our behalf He did make sin, that we may become the righteousness of God in him.[YLT]
2Cor 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. [KJV]

I was replying to this v21, it's Isaiah 53 all over.

One time usage of God, so correct translation.

Not so fast. Adding the word "God" in is just another layer of error from the translators pen. They use a technique of very slow alteration to change the meaning of the text to appeal to a wider audience...sells more bibles. Another example of this is using "remission" of sins...and eventually "forgiveness". People slowly fall away from the truth in this way. What should be used in this case for the Greek "aphesis" is FREEDOM from sin.

But back to the verse in question. There is no "He made him....there is just one "he" ...it should read he was made sin...with the understanding that He was made sin by us (wicked men...not God)

And the word "ginomai" in this verse should be translated as "fulfill".

The bible translates the bible. You just have to compare similar verses. The bible never says we become righteousness, ...that's not even proper language. No one becomes humility. No one becomes joyfulness.

The word ginomai is used elsewhere to say...."Your will be DONE (ginimai) on earth as it is in heaven." That is the context....to DO or fulfill the righteousness of God. Righteous is as righteous DOES.

The global context of this verse lies with the words of Joseph who said...what men thought to do for evil, God turned into good.

So going back to the verse...Jesus, who knew no sin, was made sin by (for) us, so that in Him we might fulfill the righteousness of God. On earth as it is in heaven.

The key to the verse is IN HIM....who knew no sin...who lifts us out of sin to DO righteousness on God's level. That is the gospel.

 

[Laurina]

2Cor 5:21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. [ESV]
2Cor 5:21 for him who did not know sin, in our behalf He did make sin, that we may become the righteousness of God in him.[YLT]
2Cor 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him. [KJV]

I was replying to this v21, it's Isaiah 53 all over.

One time usage of God, so correct translation.

Ohh, I didn't see the comma...I saw: Is. 53:21.
Sorry about that!

However, in the following translations:
NLT,
NIV,
NET, and
BBE
they say: God made Him (Jesus) to be sin for us ..... and that can't be because in the Greek, the word Theos (God) is only there once in the last part of the verse " that we might "ginomai" the righteousness of God in Him."

...just pointing that out....my 2 cents worth.

 

[Episkopos]

I am a sinner, so of course I fear God. I know myself, my talents, my weak points, the latter I fear. I am deeply impressed what Jesus said to Peter in Luke 22:31-32. I have asked Jesus to pray for me too. I am NOSAS, so enduring till the end, death.

I also know that I don't have to live in fear all days long for my salvation, Scripture states I am bought with a price, sealed with the Holy Spirit. And I believe it.

For me that's the balance (all of it above) I spoke about in post 1201.

Sure. We belong to Christ through regeneration. But no more so than the Jews were the people of God before us. Only a few will bear any eternal fruit. Only a remnant will be saved from the power of sin. So run as to win.

 

[Episkopos]

He says he does fear the Lord will reject him.

Projecting his fear on forum members.

Actually teaching the fear of the Lord to the religiously smug who are settled on their lees...the spoiled children of an abused grace. Saving souls potentially.

But people HATE being awakened out of a deep sleep.

 

[Behold]

But people HATE being awakened out of a deep sleep.

Well, look at you. @Episkopos .
Here you are ranting away like a madman, 62 pages into a Spiritually Darkened Thread that is designed to please the Devil and to deceive a real christian and embolden a foolish religious person to agree with you.

Listen,
The vile Cross rejecting heresy you teach, is profoundly EVIL........however, it wont be waking anyone up.
Tho maybe one day these MODS will wake up and realize what you are, and what you are doing here on this Forum for over a decade.
All you can provide is "doctrines of devils", as you are literally defined in a KJV as a Heb. 13:9., and a Galatians 1:8.

You're the very one who teaches the lie that "The Cross is not about forgiveness".. .as you've told us over and over.
And you also teach the Cross denying blasphemy that : "god does not give His righteousness to anyone'....
Yet, without the imputed righteousness of God, you wont be going to heaven, little fella.
So, mark it down, as its a fact that without God's Imputed righteousness given as a GIFT, to a BELIEVER, who has been FORGIVEN all their sin......., = you are not born again.

So, do Let us know when you are able to comprehend that "all have sinned and there is none righteous... no not one"....which is WHY God has to provide the sinner with "the Gift of Righteousness", who is JESUS ON THE CROSS....... as otherwise you will die in your sins, on your way to hell.

So, "wake up" if you find that you are able @Episkopos