Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

[shepherdsword]

Compare my chart to hers.

Ah I see, her 8 squares are on edge

 

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And that's the same with me. I am not indoctrinated by men because I have learned from the same Spirit that Paul did. So I have an understanding of Paul that most don't have.

You know, I half expected this was coming, that you would equate yourself with Paul. But I answered myself, does he really have the gall to do that? I guess now I know.

Just the same, your teaching shows that wresting that Peter warned about. So I wouldn't make that connection myself.

 

[Hepzibah]

I don't believe you. You rely on old dead people not the living God. You have no testimony outside of inflicting on us some 3 quantum steps to Jesus. But discern the truth, you can't.

I only found out about the early church teaching it years after. At first (and after it) I found it in evangelicalsim and the holiness movement.

 

[Episkopos]

You claim that one can be saved without being in Christ. That is not scripture as the early church did not teach it.

That is false...and it proves you don't know either God or the bible. You are simply parroting a corrupt religious system. You have never left the world to hear and see things beyond the temporal realm.

Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him. Acts 10.

Please don't come to my threads trying to pass yourself off as anything more than just some lady with a religious opinion. No truth there.

 

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What does it mean?

Automatic writing? I'd be careful about that.

 

[Episkopos]

Ah I see, her 8 squares are on edge

When I posted it it was right-side up...that accentuates the need for a righteousness support of holiness. But putting it on its edge accentuates the filling of the Spirit. So that was a revelation to me. So I had my son show the filling of the Spirit as described in Ezekiel. And he was able to do it...marvelous graphics (which are way beyond me to do).

 

[Episkopos]

I meet arrogance here with a rebuke. So if I rebuke you...you are being arrogant. I am a very reasonable man. My goal is to save souls. But those filthy ones that walk over my threads dirtying the truth with their religious opinions that mock the truth...I don't abide.

There are seekers who come here. I would welcome them. If someone disagrees with what I teach, I am willing to go over point by point. But I do this so much as wasted time...because most people are NOT open to the truth.

 

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Indeed we are to be taught by Him. But they found out that they were in agreement. Conformation that even Paul needed.

A beautiful example of . . .

Ephesians 4:15-16 KJV
15) But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
16) From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.

Much love!

 

[Episkopos]

I only found out about the early church teaching it years after. At first (and after it) I found it in evangelicalsim and the holiness movement.

Sure. But your reliance on evangelical dogmatism proves that you have no eternal source yourself. Someone who has been with the Lord has the testimony of Jesus...not some recommended teaching that you force others to agree with. Besides, God does not do cookie cutter advancement in the kingdom life. For some, like me, we start at the very end and have to work our way backward. Hence my chart that shows the whole thing at once....without telling people where they have to start...just how to grow in the knowledge of God.

If you could put aside your tendency toward Eastern Christendom...we could talk.

But I would state what should come FIRST. Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness. (without the assuming and presuming)

 

[Episkopos]

I'm AMAZED at the bible ignorance of those who listen to pulpiteers.

A rich young man came up to Jesus and asked...What must I do to inherit eternal life??? Jesus answered Obey the commandments.

And people here would condemn Jesus as a false teacher for saying that. I am in the BEST company when pretenders accuse me of being a false teacher.

 

[shepherdsword]

I'm AMAZED at the bible ignorance of those who listen to pulpiteers.

A rich young man came up to Jesus and asked...What must I do to inherit eternal life??? Jesus answered Obey the commandments.

And people here would condemn Jesus as a false teacher for saying that. I am in the BEST company when pretenders accuse me of being a false teacher.

Jn 5:28-29 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

 

[amigo de christo]

I wonder...out all of the people who have posted in this thread, how many have watched the video?

i would be far more concerned with how many folks here are actually believing inclusivism .
which darn sure makes BELEIF in Christ as unecessary . In fact i shudder in my shoes
outta fear for such .
IF folks wanna give CHRIST NO HONOR and GLORY then believe me , THAT WONT BODE WELL FOR THEM on HIS day .
enough with this broad incluisive road junk . ITS TIME TO PREACH JESUS CHRIST
and , and ALL THINGS he did teach .

 

[Episkopos]

Jn 5:28-29 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

And that is for the CHURCH. His sheep hear His voice. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, the bible warns men...and so do I. :)

 

[amigo de christo]

I'm AMAZED at the bible ignorance of those who listen to pulpiteers.

A rich young man came up to Jesus and asked...What must I do to inherit eternal life??? Jesus answered Obey the commandments.

And people here would condemn Jesus as a false teacher for saying that. I am in the BEST company when pretenders accuse me of being a false teacher.

and what are the commandments , what sums up the entire law . oh yeah LOVE GOD above all and your neighbor as yourself .
GUESS what epi , THOSE who call GOD a liar DO NOT LOVE HIM . so that just failed the OBEY the commandemnts .
AND guess who calls GOD a liar epi . HE WHO B LEIEVES NOT the TESTIMONY GOD HIMSELF gave of the SON .
SO guess who is a co helper to calling GOD a liar , THOSE who imply its not necessary to have had to beleive ON JESUS THE SON
THE CHRIST OF GOD .
NOW GEE i wonder who is doing that . OH yeah INCLUSIVISM DOES . and guess who follows that , OH yeah EPI DOES .

 

[Hepzibah]

Sure. But your reliance on evangelical dogmatism proves that you have no eternal source yourself. Someone who has been with the Lord has the testimony of Jesus...not some recommended teaching that you force others to agree with. Besides, God does not do cookie cutter advancement in the kingdom life. For some, like me, we start at the very end and have to work our way backward. Hence my chart that shows the whole thing at once....without telling people where they have to start...just how to grow in the knowledge of God.

If you could put aside your tendency toward Eastern Christendom...we could talk.

But I would state what should come FIRST. Seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness. (without the assuming and presuming)

I was even in Calvinism when the Lord began to teach me and I began to doubt Calvin. He brought me to the end of myself and then Illuminated me - He gave me the Heavenly Vision that the disciples were given at Transfiguration. I searched the scriptures and found eternal life then sought out where it had been taught correctly.

Later I heard that he early church taught it and so I began to read about the ECF's and found out that Protestantism was not to be found there. I was cured of it. However, it was reading George Fox that I learned the most.

I am outside of the denominations and they are all in such a state now. Eastern Orthodoxy gave in to the authorities early but there were some in there that were spiritual masters or doctors of the church. I would not join the EOC though.

You start by training yourself to start to hear God speak instead of man.

 

[Episkopos]

and what are the commandments , what sums up the entire law . oh yeah LOVE GOD above all and your neighbor as yourself .
GUESS what epi , THOSE who call GOD a liar DO NOT LOVE HIM . so that just failed the OBEY the commandemnts .
AND guess who calls GOD a liar epi . HE WHO B LEIEVES NOT the TESTIMONY GOD HIMSELF gave of the SON .
SO guess who is a co helper to calling GOD a liar , THOSE who imply its not necessary to have had to beleive ON JESUS THE SON
THE CHRIST OF GOD .
NOW GEE i wonder who is doing that . OH yeah INCLUSIVISM DOES . and guess who follows that , OH yeah EPI DOES .

False teaching. For those who read the bible the rich man asks Jesus ....WHICH commandments are required to inherit life. Jesus responds by stating 5 of the righteousness commandments leaving out the 10th which is to not covet. So then the minimum standard for salvation is to DO righteousness. That is of God and biblical.

You are just a charlatan that speaks against the truth...and against Christ. Stop trying to save yourself by naming and claiming....read the bible and LISTEN to Jesus. Turn from your own ways to the living God. You have a DIRE need to repent from dead religion

 

[Episkopos]

I was even in Calvinism when the Lord began to teach me and I began to doubt Calvin. He brought me to the end of myself and then Illuminated me - He gave me the Heavenly Vision that the disciples were given at Transfiguration. I searched the scriptures and found eternal life then sought out where it had been taught correctly.

Later I heard that he early church taught it and so I began to read about the ECF's and found out that Protestantism was not to be found there. I was cured of it. However, it was reading George Fox that I learned the most.

I am outside of the denominations and they are all in such a state now. Eastern Orthodoxy gave in to the authorities early but there were some in there that were spiritual masters or doctors of the church. I would not join the EOC though.

You start by training yourself to start to hear God speak instead of man.

OK. But you have never been discipled. You know what is not right...sort of....but you lack any depth of understanding God's ways. God would rather save a humble poor man that doesn't know Him to a born again arrogant name and claimer. If you knew that then you would spot the pretenders here....and try saving their souls from the condemnation that's coming. I mean, you would also have to love souls to do that.

Some will hear the truth and repent from their vain religion. Most will attack the hand that's trying to save them.

 

[Hepzibah]

OK. But you have never been discipled. You know what is not right...sort of....but you lack any depth of understanding God's ways. God would rather save a humble poor man that doesn't know Him to a born again arrogant name and claimer. If you knew that then you would spot the pretenders here....and try saving their souls from the condemnation that's coming. I mean, you would also have to love souls to do that.

Some will hear the truth and repent from their vain religion. Most will attack the hand that's trying to save them.

As John Wesley rightly said, we are to draw people in not whip them in. The truth in love.

 

[amigo de christo]

False teaching. For those who read the bible the rich man asks Jesus ....WHICH commandments are required to inherit life. Jesus responds by stating 5 of the righteousness commandments leaving out the 10th which is to not covet. So then the minimum standard for salvation is to DO righteousness. That is of God and biblical.

You are just a charlatan that speaks against the truth...and against Christ. Stop trying to save yourself by naming and claiming....read the bible and LISTEN to Jesus. Turn from your own ways to the living God. You have a DIRE need to repent from dead religion

again Proving the point . NO MAN can love teh LORD HIS GOD if he calls GOD A LIAR .
you miss the point entirely.
We cant pick and choose what commandments to follow . AND it wont matter if one kept many of them
IF HE DIDNT LOVE GOD it was all in vain friend . ALL OF IT . noth ing more than ones own works to be seen of men
and to establish ones own righteousness apart FROM FAITH .
You my friend have bought a lie and a very dangerous one it is . VERY clever indeed it is .
BUT you see its real simple to know when something , no matter how well it was dressed up and no matter
how cleverly spun it was , IF IT DENIES IN ANY WAY THE DIRE NEED
to BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST , OH ITS A LIE all along . satan just desiriing the death of man is all that is .
Yet many seem to love a lie as they do lies . I never see you preaching the need to beleive on JESUS .
YET ALL THE APOSETLS DID . no , all you do is go around trying to plant ideas
about how this can be done WITHOUT BELIEF ON JESUS . that my friend is SO bad for you .
And seeing even as much as you spout the lie, STILL i desire only for you to repent and not your destructoin .
But you epi are dangerous . because you will teach things JESUS said ,
and yet DENY THE FACT ONE MUST BELIEVE ON HIM . THA TDONT HONOR THE SON epi
it calls HIM a liar and says OH ITS OKAY if one calls HIM A LIAR , just pick up your cross and all is well . NOT gonna
bode well for you epi . AND i just dont want to see you destroyed my friend .

 

[Episkopos]

As John Wesley rightly said, we are to draw people in not whip them in. The truth in love.

Agreed. But the mules need more than a gentle prod. Have you ever worked with a mule?

And Paul exhorts Timothy to teach, reprove and rebuke with all authority. The problem with the unwise is that they don't appreciate the lengths that minsters of the gospel go for them.