Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

[Episkopos]

On the silly charge of me being "inclusivist" by the TCO (the confused one). Yes...I honour God who is merciful. His love and mercy are "inclusivist". Those who only see God as "exclusivist" have no love or mercy...and see an angry and spiteful god...the likes of which are not according to the truth. It is a god of their own making.

What IS "exclusivist" is holiness. And those who charge me with inclusivism are NOT holy. So then they are neither going to be part of God's inclusivism or His exclusivism. When the music stops there will not be any chair for these to sit down on....not unless one is seated in heavenly places...for real. (not the satanic positional theology)

Read the bible without the indoctrination.

I know that the real word for "inclusivist" is actually just inclusive..and exclusivist is actually just exclusive...but I use the terminolgy "the confused one" (TCO) uses in his barely comprehensible virtue-signalling pontifications so he can relate to what I'm saying.
When in Rome...

 

[Lizbeth]

On the silly charge of me being inclusivist. Yes...I honour God who is merciful. His love and mercy are inclusivist. Those who only see God as exclusivist have no love or mercy...and see an angry and spiteful god...the likes of which are not according to the truth. It is a god of their own making.

What IS exclusivist is holiness. And those who charge me with inclusivism are NOT holy. So then they are neither going to be part of God's inclusivism or His exclusivism. When the music stops there will not be any chair for these to sit down on....not unless one is seated in heavenly places...for real. (not the satanic positional theology)

Read the bible without the indoctrination.

He is not spiteful at all............He is simply just. Which is a righteous thing. And that is why He went even further in righteousness so as to provide a way that man could escape His justice. The second mile. And it is the ONLY way.

 

[amigo de christo]

It's a good thing then, that the intelligence of man is not highly valued in the kingdom of God.

Did ya notice anything in what he wrote to me that he himself is guilty of doing sister .
It aint ME limiting GOD or the POWER OF GOD .
FOR what is the POWER OF GOD . IT IS the gopsel of JESUS CHRIST .
EPI limits that and says ALL aboard the HIC . IT aint me limiting GOD , its epi .
GOD has always desire FAITH ,. Now abraham had it . WHEN GOD SPOKE abraham BELIEVED
and thus he obeyed .
YET WHEN the gospel of JESUS that darn sure says YE MUST BELIEVE ON HIM
is spoken , DONT SEEM EPI OBEYS THAT . HE OMITS IT .
And that is the ONE THING required for salvation and that we might work the works OF GOD .
Hic will save none and all who preached holiness without FAITH IN THE MOST HOLY GOD and THUS HIS CHRIST
will never preach true holiness nor the POWER of GOD at all . Calling GOD a liar
IS NOT HOLY , nor is it righteous . HE who BELIEVES NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON
makes GOD a liar .
HE who recieves HIS testimony has set to his seal that GOD IS TRUE .
WHY can ye not hear my words , it is because you are not my sheep . JESUS himself spoke these very words
to HIS OWN and exposed the HIC PHARISEES who bleieved they could attain righteousness WIHTOUT FAITH .
That too is why they were cast out of their own tree . The man does not know the grave danger he is truly in dear sister .

 

[Episkopos]

It's a good thing then, that the intelligence of man is not highly valued in the kingdom of God.

The first thing that is thrown out in modern religious circles is critical thinking. And honesty. If you want to accept the salvation scheme as presented by pretenders TO other pretenders...then you have to set aside basic intelligence. Because any kind of critical thinking and discernment would immediately throw out what is clearly not biblical or wise.

What is rejected in the kingdom of God is NOT intelligence...but worldly thinking. So then a dumbed down gospel is only useful for people who are dumb. We are to worship God with the mind as well as the heart. The mind of Christ is very intelligent. Only a dumb person sees Christ as being as dumb as he/she is.

There's no excuse for being spoiled and unintelligent in the face of the truth. The most indoctrinated evangelical can count to 4...UNLESS it is in a verse that they don't want to believe.

I have illustrated this many times. Any intelligent person with the reading skills of a 5 year old would understand. Jesus said...unless you are converted and become as a child...you will not enter the kingdom. There is no wonder at why so few have a testimony that goes beyond a name-it claim-it ideology that is the counterfeit of a truth that can save souls.

 

[amigo de christo]

He is not spiteful at all............He is simply just. Which is a righteous thing. And that is why He went even further in righteousness so as to provide a way that man could escape His justice. The second mile. And it is the ONLY way.

you remember the question you asked me . what else might he beleive .
IT might be about to surface sister , in fact part of it just did . I did warn us how deadly and dangerous this incluisvism T RULY IS .
I know what it teaches and i know what they beleive .
And i know it uses a very powerful truth and yet does so in a way that omits something . ANY G UESSES on what it omits .
IF ya said THE DIRE NEED TO BELEIVE ON THIS SAVOIR JESUS CHRIST , then YOU would be correct .
The work of an inclusivist is identical to this one work right there .
HAS GOD really said ye MAY NOT
OH surely ye shall not die .....................ONLY THEY SURE DID as death came upon them and all of man ever since .
SO too today does this same one work .
ONLY THIS T IME , HE is about CEASING THEM FROM EATING from the ONE TREE that it was NECESSARY to eat from .
OH he is a liar sister but he can use truths twisted to imply his own lie . And he has been in the world
even since the garden when and where he first tempted the woman .
NOW many generations later GOD would provide the way BACK . GOD would send the SON
who lived in perfect righteousness before the FATHER and then who would be crucified
to pay our sins and raised again for our justification .
AND something our inclusive ones have made v oid is , THE FACT ONE HAS TO BELIEVE ON HIM in order TO RECIEVE .
T hey preach , NAY NAY ye shall not perish if ye beleive not , for GOD is all inclusive .
NOW you see the LIE sister . NOW ya see the work and working of many anti christs .
TO DO ONE THING . SILENCE the ONLY GOSPEL by which if ONE DO BELEIVE he or she may be saved .
And you gots to know the why he would do that . cause satan has always desired the death of huamnity
SO HE darn sure gonna teach things that DO DISHONOR the SON , that DO call GOD a liar
and do keep them all IN THE DARKNESS and under Death and to face the second death .
BUT MANY see this inclusive god as full of mercy , full of grace , full of love .
WELL if it was full of mercy , full of grace and full of LOVE , THEN WHY did it omit
THE VERY LOVE OF GOD , THE VERY MERCY AND GRACE of GOD whereby those who BLEIEVE would be saved .
AND why , cause it is as a say sister , this god of inclusivity IS NOT THE ONE TRUE GOD
IT DENIES the one true GOD and makes the path to what THEY THINK IS GOD very broad and very inclusive .

 

[Lizbeth]

Did ya notice anything in what he wrote to me that he himself is guilty of doing sister .
It aint ME limiting GOD or the POWER OF GOD .
FOR what is the POWER OF GOD . IT IS the gopsel of JESUS CHRIST .
EPI limits that and says ALL aboard the HIC . IT aint me limiting GOD , its epi .
GOD has always desire FAITH ,. Now abraham had it . WHEN GOD SPOKE abraham BELIEVED
and thus he obeyed .
YET WHEN the gospel of JESUS that darn sure says YE MUST BELIEVE ON HIM
is spoken , DONT SEEM EPI OBEYS THAT . HE OMITS IT .
And that is the ONE THING required for salvation and that we might work the works OF GOD .
Hic will save none and all who preached holiness without FAITH IN THE MOST HOLY GOD and THUS HIS CHRIST
will never preach true holiness nor the POWER of GOD at all . Calling GOD a liar
IS NOT HOLY , nor is it righteous . HE who BELIEVES NOT the testimony that GOD gave of the SON
makes GOD a liar .
HE who recieves HIS testimony has set to his seal that GOD IS TRUE .
WHY can ye not hear my words , it is because you are not my sheep . JESUS himself spoke these very words
to HIS OWN and exposed the HIC PHARISEES who bleieved they could attain righteousness WIHTOUT FAITH .
That too is why they were cast out of their own tree . The man does not know the grave danger he is truly in dear sister .

Amen, and I think even Abraham had faith because he was first called by God, so not really of his own.

 

[Episkopos]

He is not spiteful at all............He is simply just. Which is a righteous thing. And that is why He went even further in righteousness so as to provide a way that man could escape His justice. The second mile. And it is the ONLY way.

LOL. He is simply...simple. You confuse a lack of intelligence as being righteous. Of course. Because you have no critical thinking...therefore anyone who has forsaken critical thinking and looks down on intelligence must have done so to follow a god who they think wants us to be simple and unintelligent.

But you are under-thinking this...with a limited intelligence.

People charge modern believers with hypocrisy and being not intelligent. And you think that is being a good witness.

So hypocrisy is to see things upside down. People see the church as unrighteous...which is correct. What they don't see is how unholy the church has become. Judgment day awaits on that score.

 

[Lizbeth]

The first thing that is thrown out in modern religious circles is critical thinking. And honesty. If you want to accept the salvation scheme as presented by pretenders TO other pretenders...then you have to set aside basic intelligence. Because any kind of critical thinking and discernment would immediately throw out what is clearly not biblical or wise.

What is rejected in the kingdom of God is NOT intelligence...but worldly thinking. So then a dumbed down gospel is only useful for people who are dumb. We are to worship God with the mind as well as the heart. The mind of Christ is very intelligent. Only a dumb person sees Christ as being as dumb as he/she is.

There's no excuse for being spoiled and unintelligent in the face of the truth. The most indoctrinated evangelical can count to 4...UNLESS it is in a verse that they don't want to believe.

I have illustrated this many times. Any intelligent person with the reading skills of a 5 year old would understand. Jesus said...unless you are converted and become as a child...you will not enter the kingdom. There is no wonder at why so few have a testimony that goes beyond a name-it claim-it ideology that is the counterfeit of a truth that can save souls.

Oh well you are talking to a half-senile old lady here. Dumb as a skunk sometimes.

But you seem to be reacting to being teased. Sincerely hope you will seek God about that Epi. "all aboard the horse-in-cart" lol....I needed a good laugh today, nothing personal. Laughter is good medicine.

 

[Lizbeth]

LOL. He is simply...simple. You confuse a lack of intelligence as being righteous. Of course. Because you have no critical thinking...therefore anyone who has forsaken critical thinking and looks down on intelligence must have done so to follow a god who they think wants us to be simple and unintelligent.

But you are under-thinking this...with a limited intelligence.

People charge modern believers with hypocrisy and being not intelligent. And you think that is being a good witness.

So hypocrisy is to see things upside down. People see the church as unrighteous...which is correct. What they don't see is how unholy the church has become. Judgment day awaits on that score.

You know, it's interesting, because there are learning disabilities in my family. I never used to fully realize it for a long time because I grew up with it. Just kind of noticed and thought that there are wide variations in natural intelligence but not fully realizing and fully facing for many years that I was looking at actual disability in my family. You see, for it to take so long for the penny to drop makes me wonder if I have some intellectual disability too. My memory has never been stellar either, and even much worse now. I love everyone in my family regardless of their IQ and have always and still do bear the burden of worrying about their welfare with having limited options in life etc.

 

[Episkopos]

Oh well you are talking to a half-senile old lady here. Dumb as a skunk sometimes.

But you seem to be reacting to being teased. Sincerely hope you will seek God about that Epi. "all aboard the horse-in-cart" lol....I needed a good laugh today, nothing personal. Laughter is good medicine.

Yes...I agree that TOC (the confused one) is funny. :) It brings some levity. And I understand why he thinks as he does. But the fact that so many people would take anything he says seriously shows how far removed from reality people have strayed.

I see TOC as a school drop-out who sits in rags on a corner with a sign and calls out the same thing over and over again without being able to have a normal conversation. Maybe an old drug addict or alcoholic that has burned through too many brain cells.

I don't see that as exemplary even as I sympathize with anyone who has been burned out by this world. The problem lies with taking a failed witness as being the greatest one. Like we see in todays society with DEI hires. The world is corrupt because the church is ...and in the same ways

 

[Lizbeth]

The first thing that is thrown out in modern religious circles is critical thinking. And honesty. If you want to accept the salvation scheme as presented by pretenders TO other pretenders...then you have to set aside basic intelligence. Because any kind of critical thinking and discernment would immediately throw out what is clearly not biblical or wise.

What is rejected in the kingdom of God is NOT intelligence...but worldly thinking. So then a dumbed down gospel is only useful for people who are dumb. We are to worship God with the mind as well as the heart. The mind of Christ is very intelligent. Only a dumb person sees Christ as being as dumb as he/she is.

There's no excuse for being spoiled and unintelligent in the face of the truth. The most indoctrinated evangelical can count to 4...UNLESS it is in a verse that they don't want to believe.

I have illustrated this many times. Any intelligent person with the reading skills of a 5 year old would understand. Jesus said...unless you are converted and become as a child...you will not enter the kingdom. There is no wonder at why so few have a testimony that goes beyond a name-it claim-it ideology that is the counterfeit of a truth that can save souls.

Hard to say, because four divided by two equals two too (lol), so I will have wait on the Lord for that one.

 

[Episkopos]

Hard to say, because four divided by two equals two too (lol), so I will have wait on the Lord for that one.

Actually God is waiting on you. When will you allow a very basic honesty to overthrow what the devil has instilled in you?
When will anyone see the degree to which the devil deceives the WHOLE world...and especially the church.

 

[Lizbeth]

I sympathize with anyone who has been burned out by this world.

Thank you. I do too.

 

[Episkopos]

Thank you. I do too.

Good. But sympathy is not the same as honour. A lack of intelligence is not wisdom. Wisdom is a proper use of intelligence. Only the devil and his spirit of slumber causes people to abnegate what God has given us to preserve our own souls.

 

[Lizbeth]

Actually God is waiting on you. When will you allow a very basic honesty to overthrow what the devil has instilled in you?
When will anyone see the degree to which the devil deceives the WHOLE world...and especially the church.

I see a world that is deceived by their own righteousness into wrongly thinking that they dont' need a Saviour. Many professing Christians within the church too.

 

[Episkopos]

I see a world that is deceived by their own righteousness into wrong thinking that they dont' need a Saviour. Many professing Christians within the church too.

You are only seeing down a very narrow corridor of people who aren't you. You do that, without realizing it, because you want to justify yourself as being further ahead than them. But you are in a different race than they are. Grace qualifies us for a much harder albeit more glorious race.

It would be like a major league baseball player who is failing at his sport looking at minor league players in need of being elevated into the majors. That is a dumbing down approach. Instead be faithful to your own calling and take responsibility for yourself.

I am a very ordinary person. Why did God show me so much favour and experiences? I think it's because I can be honest. If more people were just honest then more people would experience God.

For example in rev. 22:11 I read 4 eternal destinies...whereas few if any can see that.

1 + 1 + 1+ 1 = 4

If someone wants me to expand on that....


1 + 1 + 1+ 1 = 4

 

[Laurina]

1 + 1 + 1+ 1 = 4

If someone wants me to expand on that....


1 + 1 + 1+ 1 = 4

 

[Lizbeth]

You are only seeing down a very narrow corridor of people who aren't you. You do that, without realizing it, because you want to justify yourself as being further ahead than them. But you are in a different race than they are. Grace qualifies us for a much harder albeit more glorious race.

It would be like a major league baseball player who is failing at his sport looking at minor league players in need of being elevated into the majors. That is a dumbing down approach. Instead be faithful to your own calling and take responsibility for yourself.

I am a very ordinary person. Why did God show me so much favour and experiences? I think it's because I can be honest. If more people were just honest then more people would experience God.

For example in rev. 22:11 I read 4 eternal destinies...whereas few if any can see that.

1 + 1 + 1+ 1 = 4

If someone wants me to expand on that....


1 + 1 + 1+ 1 = 4

LOL. Only sometimes. Other times it's 4 divided by 2 = 2.

Now why can't you be honest and acknowledge what someone else already pointed out to you, concerning Cornelius:

Act 11:9
But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

Without the preaching of the gospel, without the washing of the water of the word…… without the blood of JESUS and faith in it/Him…….how could Cornelius have been cleansed? How can anyone? It was for that reason Peter was sent to Cornelius. This isn't rocket science, it's not hard to see this. 1 + 1 = 2.

Act 11:13-14
And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter;
Who shall tell thee words, WHEREBY thou and all thy house shall be SAVED.

 

[amigo de christo]

I see a world that is deceived by their own righteousness into wrongly thinking that they dont' need a Saviour. Many professing Christians within the church too.

Exactly . As for me I shall cling to Christ .

 

[amigo de christo]

LOL. Only sometimes. Other times it's 4 divided by 2 = 2.

Now why can't you be honest and acknowledge what someone else already pointed out to you, concerning Cornelius:

Act 11:9
But the voice answered me again from heaven, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

Without the preaching of the gospel, without the washing of the water of the word…… without the blood of JESUS and faith in it/Him…….how could Cornelius have been cleansed? How can anyone? It was for that reason Peter was sent to Cornelius. This isn't rocket science, it's not hard to see this. 1 + 1 = 2.

Act 11:13-14
And he shewed us how he had seen an angel in his house, which stood and said unto him, Send men to Joppa, and call for Simon, whose surname is Peter;
Who shall tell thee words, WHEREBY thou and all thy house shall be SAVED.

exactly .