Reviving Biblical Christianity (The Way) Part 2

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Episkopos

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Now I see why you're so far out in left field. You have have no standard to base truth on so truth is whatever you want it to be.
The standard is the bible, the word of God. Indoctrinated people use the bible the way a cult does...a few passages taken out of context that directly contradict the weight of scripture. So you really don't see anything. You just parrot what you've been taught. But you could be seeking the Lord for yourself. Seek first the kingdom...there's a standard for you.
 
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Of course. To whom much is given MORE is require and I have been given much.

Thanks, that explains a lot.

1Cor 9:27 But I discipline my body and keep it under control, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified.

OTOH :

2Tim 4:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, will award to me on that Day, and not only to me but also to all who have loved his appearing.
 

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The standard is the bible, the word of God. Indoctrinated people use the bible the way a cult does...a few passages taken out of context that directly contradict the weight of scripture. So you really don't see anything. You just parrot what you've been taught. But you could be seeking the Lord for yourself. Seek first the kingdom...there's a standard for you.
I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure you said all bibles are corrupt.
 
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Episkopos

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I could be wrong but I’m pretty sure you said all bibles are corrupt.
All translations are corrupted to some degree or other...because those who commission translations have an agenda.

People are just lazy in their studies. The Babylonian system thrives on laziness in those who claim salvation. And the laziness extends to seeking first the kingdom....as Jesus commands but no one listens to.
 

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What a nonsense.

Thrown into Outer Darkness is punishment, not salvation.
I'm sorry you feel that way...but the ones going to outer darkness based on God's judgment which is just, as in righteous, were saved from death. That is saved.

Rom. 10:11-12 says:
"For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.


Are you calling Paul a liar??
Are you redefining "saved?"
Are you saying God is not just?
The people who are thrown into outer darkness have called upon the name of the Lord.

I'm asking because your statement goes against scripture.
Feelings aside, please clarify.
 

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Well, as I said it's like an alternate universe around here at times.

Discernment comes from the Lord, not by being analytical.....but I can appreciate why someone would tend to be analytical given a confusing or contradictory family situation when they were young.
practice and exercise is how discernment is gained. It’s a training.
I’ve read books by psychologists who never mention God but they had labored over many, many patients for years and they have come to understand and classify their problems and issues very accurately. Many were pioneers in their field. Quite a few even came later in life to admit that they had seen what they could only call evil in some of their patients.

There is also a gift of discernment. But without that gift even unbelievers can develop discernment through hard work, journaling, gnawing over and over on something they clearly see but don’t understand.
You can’t really think that all humans can have no discernment at all and be just totally clueless as to whether they are seeing good or evil when a news story comes on about Dahmer or Hitler, or when they meet someone they quickly decide they want nothing to do with.
 

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Having said that, I am aware that we have been seeing a lot of people more recently who CANT tell evil when they see it. How else would they be convinced by a doctor or psychologist to mutilate their own children?