Yes. Always so much hedging and hiding, that's what crocodiles do, and that is why it took so long to get to the bottom of it, at least for me. I don't know if you have caught up with the recent conversation about whether Christ comes to dwell IN us by faith......Christ IN us, the hope of glory.....but it has come to light that this group does not believe He does. They believe it only refers to Him dwelling in the corporate church. That for me, explains EVERYTHING that has puzzled me or seemed incongruent about them....why Epi believes we are no different than Jews under the old covenant; why he says Catholics are our brothers and sisters; and why their 'fellowship' seems to be around a set of beliefs 'about' Him, rather than around He Himself, and a lot of other things too.
Christ IN us the hope of glory is the crux of the matter........... as to whether one is truly a Christian and belongs to Him or not, and whether a group is truly Christian or not (as opposed to name only).
Sister its the same language all over the realm now . This inclusivity stuff .
Their doctrines only differ but its the same thing sister . And the same delusion
coming to make them as one min d and one peoples . Tis why you see the same lingo.
The main driver behind it is inclusive ecumencalism .
The entire goal is to bring us to a religion , to a concept , to a love , to a peace
that all will agree upon . And is it any wonder it t ries to cliam torah , but like the unbelieving jews
it cannot hear Torah . IT will not POINT to the fact ONE must TRULY BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST .
The moment beleif in HIM is removed , is the moment I KNOW its a false gospel without any doubt .
THERE is NO HONOR in a lie . There is no honor to CHRIST by making void the dire need to BELIEVE ON HIM .
Recognizing what BY GOD CHRIST HAS DONE for us , IS WHAT HONORS THE SON and THUS GIVES ALL HONOR TO THE FATHER .
BELIEF . it dont matter what a man does , whether some good works or not . IF HE DONT BELIEVE GOD
HE cannot PLEASE GOD . Its about one simple thing , FAITH . DO we BELIEVE HIM or do we call HIM a liar .
God has given salvation unto all who beleive in Christ JESUS and who love him in SINCERITY and TRUTH .
And the very works GOD ordained they to walk in , WELL NOW IN CHRIST JESUS those who DO BELEIVE IN HIM
are HIS workmanship who are created unto those good works well pleasing to GOD by FAITH IN HE whom GOD did send .
TELLING folks its not necessary to BELIEVE on CHRIST is nothing more than saying YOU CAN CALL GOD A LIAR .
As for me , by grace , I KNOW i NEED HIM and DO BELIEVE HE is all that i NEED . HIC is gonna damn all
for it rejected FAITH , BELEIF IN CHRIST and gave no honor or glory to the SON and thus NO honor and glory to the Father .