Right Religion, Wrong Knowledge --------------------------------------------------------------------------------Wanting the Truth and Rejecting the LieDo not get me wrong. I am a sincere believer, however, I cannot let a lie abide. I take every opportunity to expose the work of the devil. He has infused a great many of lies throughtout the messages of Scripture. This is one of those particular lies that distracted and off balanced Christians for over a century and seven hundred years. He has twisted Scripture since his encounter with Eve (you shall not surely die). These Scriptural lie needs to be fixed. Here is one:Matt 12: 38-42 38 Then some of the scribes and Pharisees answered, saying, "Teacher, we want to see a sign from You." 39But He answered and said to them, "An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of the prophet Jonah. 40For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. 41The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here. 42The queen of the South will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and indeed a greater than Solomon is here. Jon 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.In the attempt to create Easter at the prompting of satan, a group of men created a lie and have caused most christians to live by it. These mostly gentile believers wanted to separate from everything Jewish to include the Holy Days and Sabbaths because of the Jewish Tax and Ideology differences. They took somethings from us that stole the Holy Days from us. Jesus was in the grave three whole days and nights. The days of Friday daytime until Sunday daytime only covers three days and two nights. It makes a whole night missing from the Palm Friday to Easter Sunday set up.However, the opposing view of Yeshua dieing on Passover Wed before sundown and resurrecting on the Feast of First Fruits Saturday prior to sundown is precisely accurate. He was born as our First Fruit offering with the rest to follow Him in their resurrection. When He came out of the tomb, He immediately told His disciples to wait in Jerusalem to be empowered. This came to past on the day of Pentecost which is exactly 50 days from the Holy Day of First Fruits if you count backwards. This is nothing more than counting the Omer according to Scripture which began on the Feast of Firstfruits on the first day immediately following the Holy Day of Unleaven Bread.1Co 15:20 But now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruits of them that slept.Luke: 49 And, behold, I send the promise of my Father upon you: but tarry ye in the city of Jerusalem, until ye be endued with power from on high. Acts 2: 1-4 1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. God did these things in accordance with His Holy Days so as to fulfil Scripture, leave a trail of a witness, and prove that the Yeshua was the real Messiah. However, we have allowed the enemy to steal the landmarks, memorials, and Holy Days from us in exchange for a lie.Easter moves around every year because it is attached to the Solar calendar. It always misses Pentecost, hence it misses the actual day of resurrection. If you count backwards 50 days from Pentecost, the resurrection would never be missed. The Scripture is attached to the Lunar calendar. The enemy has taken us from the truth and made us accept the lie. We do serve the correct Lord and Savior of all man if you have indeed believed and received Him; however, we are not worshipping Him in the right knowledge. Evaluate the information for yourself. Thanks for reading the post....... Manichunter
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Do not get me wrong. I am a sincere believer, however, I cannot let a lie abide.
Indubitably understood.(manichunter)
However, the opposing view of Yeshua dieing on Passover Wed before sundown and resurrecting on the Feast of First Fruits Saturday prior to sundown is precisely accurate.
I agree with a yom revi`i crucifixion. However, the "Feast of First Fruits" or the day of the wave [sheaf] offering is on the day after shabat. In another post, you stated that Messiah resurrected before sundown. This leaves us with a slight dilemna. In the above, you refer to "Feast of First Fruits Saturday", yet I ask, from where do you get this with the Scriptures? Perhaps you meant "Sunday", or perhaps I am simply not following you correctly.The wave [sheaf] offering as well as "Pentecost" always fall upon yom rishon [sunday].(manichunter)
When He came out of the tomb, He immediately told His disciples to wait in Jerusalem to be empowered. This came to past on the day of Pentecost which is exactly 50 days from the Holy Day of First Fruits if you count backwards. This is nothing more than counting the Omer according to Scripture which began on the Feast of Firstfruits on the first day immediately following the Holy Day of Unleaven Bread.
Counting backward, would you be willing to be so kind as to lay this starting from Pentecost in Acts 2:1 and account for each of the 50 days? The results may be surprising.(manichunter)
Easter moves around every year because it is attached to the Solar calendar. It always misses Pentecost, hence it misses the actual day of resurrection. If you count backwards 50 days from Pentecost, the resurrection would never be missed. The Scripture is attached to the Lunar calendar. The enemy has taken us from the truth and made us accept the lie.
Hmmm. Perhaps I am not following you correctly, however the above seems somewhat inaccurate IMO.Lunar calendar is correct. "Easter" however is unrelated to "Pentecost", perhaps you were thinking of "Passover/Unleavened".As for the day of the resurrection, simply count three days forward from Passover. Passover/Unleavened vary with regard to the days of the week from year to year while Pentecost always begins and ends upon yom rishon [sunday]. To count back 50 days from yom rishon only works if and when Passover/Unleavened and the Feast of Weeks occur in direct correlation unto the year Messiah was slain.My intent is not to pick upon you, it is to spur you unto a deeper level. Hopefully, this might serve to that effect.(manichunter)
Evaluate the information for yourself.
Indubitably.
Do not get me wrong. I am a sincere believer, however, I cannot let a lie abide.
Indubitably understood.(manichunter)
However, the opposing view of Yeshua dieing on Passover Wed before sundown and resurrecting on the Feast of First Fruits Saturday prior to sundown is precisely accurate.
I agree with a yom revi`i crucifixion. However, the "Feast of First Fruits" or the day of the wave [sheaf] offering is on the day after shabat. In another post, you stated that Messiah resurrected before sundown. This leaves us with a slight dilemna. In the above, you refer to "Feast of First Fruits Saturday", yet I ask, from where do you get this with the Scriptures? Perhaps you meant "Sunday", or perhaps I am simply not following you correctly.The wave [sheaf] offering as well as "Pentecost" always fall upon yom rishon [sunday].(manichunter)
When He came out of the tomb, He immediately told His disciples to wait in Jerusalem to be empowered. This came to past on the day of Pentecost which is exactly 50 days from the Holy Day of First Fruits if you count backwards. This is nothing more than counting the Omer according to Scripture which began on the Feast of Firstfruits on the first day immediately following the Holy Day of Unleaven Bread.
Counting backward, would you be willing to be so kind as to lay this starting from Pentecost in Acts 2:1 and account for each of the 50 days? The results may be surprising.(manichunter)
Easter moves around every year because it is attached to the Solar calendar. It always misses Pentecost, hence it misses the actual day of resurrection. If you count backwards 50 days from Pentecost, the resurrection would never be missed. The Scripture is attached to the Lunar calendar. The enemy has taken us from the truth and made us accept the lie.
Hmmm. Perhaps I am not following you correctly, however the above seems somewhat inaccurate IMO.Lunar calendar is correct. "Easter" however is unrelated to "Pentecost", perhaps you were thinking of "Passover/Unleavened".As for the day of the resurrection, simply count three days forward from Passover. Passover/Unleavened vary with regard to the days of the week from year to year while Pentecost always begins and ends upon yom rishon [sunday]. To count back 50 days from yom rishon only works if and when Passover/Unleavened and the Feast of Weeks occur in direct correlation unto the year Messiah was slain.My intent is not to pick upon you, it is to spur you unto a deeper level. Hopefully, this might serve to that effect.(manichunter)
Evaluate the information for yourself.
Indubitably.
No problem, thanks mightily, I endeavor to learn and challenge myself. I am an extremist. So you can bet I will continue as you say....... I ended up on April 15, which is the day of unleavened bread, but if it was after sundown, how would that apply as far counting of the omer. We celebrated the Day of Unleavened Bread on this day. I am trying to get the details of each feastival memorized, eventhoug we do not practiced each event. We celebrate the Holy Days in light of Christ having come as memorials. So my pastor does think repeating things that tell of his coming is essential since He came. Now we celebrate in expectation of second coming and respect of keeping sacred what God called sacred until the end of the heaven and earth. I will get their man. I just need more resources. My pastor to his wisdom probaly is taking me slow since he knows I am a knowledge junky. He says I have to develop a love for truth and application. That is greater discover I seek presently. Thanks again kind sir. Help the young preacher............ For He gave some .......... for the perfecting and equipping of the saints.
Richard thanks againI am hunger and God said He is the rewarder of those that dilligently seek Him.........
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I endeavor to learn and challenge myself.
That is good. Thus also why forums such as this can be beneficial, for we encourage each other to dig deeper.(manichunter)
I ended up on April 15, which is the day of unleavened bread, but if it was after sundown, how would that apply as far counting of the omer. We celebrated the Day of Unleavened Bread on this day.
I am assuming you are referring unto counting backwards from Acts 2:1 here. If so, please detail how you are arriving at this. If not, please clarify this for me.(manichunter)
I will get their man.
Yes you shall.(manichunter)
I just need more resources.
Not necessarily. My personal library is not that large anymore. I have found through the years that having an abundance of resources is not the answer.If I may, I would suggest for you at this point in time if you don't already have them:Good quality Interlinear(s) [both Hebrew and Greek] perhaps such as the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia text.Intermediate quality Lexicon(s) [both Hebrew and Greek] such as the Brown-Driver-Briggs in hardcopy. Using a hardcopy such as this, while not as fast as e-versions is superior in overall quality. Not only that, it will cause you to learn more overall in that you will need to become familiar with the Hebrew Aleph-Beit. Further, using hardcopy resources, our overall ability to retain the material is better.Such as I have mentioned above will last you for years of deeper study. When the time comes, if you would like or need such, I can send you a 'transliteration' key which may perhaps assist in your studies.(manichunter)
My pastor to his wisdom probaly is taking me slow since he knows I am a knowledge junky. He says I have to develop a love for truth and application. That is greater discover I seek presently.
Knowledge is good. However, without wisdom and understanding, knowledge can be very dangerous. One thing I have learned over the years is that the more I learn, the more I realize how little that I truly know...
I endeavor to learn and challenge myself.
That is good. Thus also why forums such as this can be beneficial, for we encourage each other to dig deeper.(manichunter)
I ended up on April 15, which is the day of unleavened bread, but if it was after sundown, how would that apply as far counting of the omer. We celebrated the Day of Unleavened Bread on this day.
I am assuming you are referring unto counting backwards from Acts 2:1 here. If so, please detail how you are arriving at this. If not, please clarify this for me.(manichunter)
I will get their man.
Yes you shall.(manichunter)
I just need more resources.
Not necessarily. My personal library is not that large anymore. I have found through the years that having an abundance of resources is not the answer.If I may, I would suggest for you at this point in time if you don't already have them:Good quality Interlinear(s) [both Hebrew and Greek] perhaps such as the Biblia Hebraica Stuttgartensia text.Intermediate quality Lexicon(s) [both Hebrew and Greek] such as the Brown-Driver-Briggs in hardcopy. Using a hardcopy such as this, while not as fast as e-versions is superior in overall quality. Not only that, it will cause you to learn more overall in that you will need to become familiar with the Hebrew Aleph-Beit. Further, using hardcopy resources, our overall ability to retain the material is better.Such as I have mentioned above will last you for years of deeper study. When the time comes, if you would like or need such, I can send you a 'transliteration' key which may perhaps assist in your studies.(manichunter)
My pastor to his wisdom probaly is taking me slow since he knows I am a knowledge junky. He says I have to develop a love for truth and application. That is greater discover I seek presently.
Knowledge is good. However, without wisdom and understanding, knowledge can be very dangerous. One thing I have learned over the years is that the more I learn, the more I realize how little that I truly know...
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I am hunger and God said He is the rewarder of those that diligently seek Him...
Indeed.
I am hunger and God said He is the rewarder of those that diligently seek Him...
Indeed.
Eh, I am kind of off topic here, but is there a website that talks about the celebrations mentioned in the bible and what dates they are in up-to-date month and date? (
Hi Tikikalaheres a site that will give you a basic start the holidays are Jewishbut they are so much more they teach us alot about God and how he works this is why they are important. Hope this gets you started off to a great learning experience http://www.jewfaq.org/holiday0.htm
manichunter Easter is a man made up holiday we were never told to celebrate. It is based on the church combining passover with the pagon celebration of the fertility goddess Ishtar. God told us to remember Passover not Easter.You will find many threads on here about this if you do a search
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