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Big Boy Johnson

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Those are very dark and twisted accusations against holy spirits held in heavenly places.

There is not authorization in God's Word for anybody to be contacting people that have been separated from this world by physical death

Warnings against mourning for the dead
(this is how familiar spirits get started in a person's life many times... when someone they loves dies and sorrow sets in
and is accepted as being OK)

Leviticus 19:28
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.

Leviticus 21:1
And the LORD said unto Moses, Speak unto the priests the sons of Aaron, and say unto them, There shall none be
defiled for the dead among his people:

Deuteronomy 14:1
Ye are the children of the LORD your God: ye shall not cut yourselves, nor make any baldness between your eyes for the
dead.

Deuteronomy 26:14
I have not eaten thereof in my mourning, neither have I taken away ought thereof for any unclean use, nor given ought
thereof for the dead: but I have hearkened to the voice of the LORD my God, and have done according to all that thou
hast commanded me.

Jeremiah 16:7
Neither shall men tear themselves for them in mourning, to comfort them for the dead; neither shall men give them
the cup of consolation to drink for their father or for their mother.

Jeremiah 22:10
Weep ye not for the dead, neither bemoan him: but weep sore for him that goeth away: for he shall return no more,
nor see his native country.

Ezekiel 24:17
Forbear to cry, make no mourning for the dead
 

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Definition of NECROMANCY
conjuration of the spirits of the dead for purposes of magically revealing the future or influencing the course of events

Definition of SORCERY
the use of power gained from the assistance or control of evil spirits especially for divining

Definition of DIVINATION
1 - the art or practice that seeks to foresee or foretell future events or discover hidden knowledge usually by the

interpretation of omens or by the aid of supernatural powers
2 - unusual insight : intuitive perception (apart from information directly the Holy Spirit)

Galatians 5:19-21
Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance (debate), emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time
past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Leviticus 19:31 ESV
Do not turn to mediums or necromancers; do not seek them out, and so make yourselves unclean by them: I am the
Lord your God.

Isaiah 8:19 ESV
And when they say to you, ?Inquire of the mediums and the necromancers who chirp and mutter,? should not a people
inquire of their God? Should they inquire of the dead on behalf of the living?

Leviticus 20:6 ESV
If a person turns to mediums and necromancers, whoring after them, I will set my face against that person and will
cut him off from among his people.

Deuteronomy 18:10 ESV
There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an offering, anyone who practices
divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer

Revelation 16:14 ESV
For they are demonic spirits, performing signs, who go abroad to the kings of the whole world, to assemble them for
battle on the great day of God the Almighty.

Ecclesiastes 9:5 ESV
For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing, and they have no more reward, for the memory of
them is forgotten.

Psalm 115:17 ESV
The dead do not praise the Lord, nor do any who go down into silence.

Deuteronomy 18:9-14 ESV
When you come into the land that the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not learn to follow the abominable
practices of those nations. There shall not be found among you anyone who burns his son or his daughter as an
offering, anyone who practices divination or tells fortunes or interprets omens, or a sorcerer or a charmer or a medium
or a necromancer or one who inquires of the dead, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord. And
because of these abominations the Lord your God is driving them out before you. You shall be blameless before the
Lord your God, ...

Revelation 21:8 ESV
But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and
all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.?

1 John 4:1 ESV
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have
gone out into the world.

Hebrews 5:14 ESV
But solid food is for the mature, for those who have their powers of discernment trained by constant practice to
distinguish good from evil.

1 Timothy 4:1 ESV
Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful
spirits and teachings of demons

Ephesians 4:30 ESV
And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption.

2 Corinthians 11:14 ESV
And no wonder, for even satan disguises himself as an angel of light.
 
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Those are familiar spirits which are demons.

It's very telling that so many put such importance on seeing their loved ones instead of the Lord.

Those doing so are guilty of the sin of idolatry because they put their loved ones before the Lord.

The reason for this is they are tares that don't know the Lord being filled with the darkened wisdom of mankind.




Why would I? It's not biblical and not of God.

People have to get help from the devil to twist scripture and try to make it seem like people are visiting with the dead.

The old devil is rolling on the ground laughing at how easy it is to deceive people like this. View attachment 80381




I go by what the Lord teaches in His Word.

Talking to the dead is not scriptural




I'm not breaking bread, bidding Godspeed, or otherwise associating with those who talk to the dead in my community because I don't hang out with those involved in the occult who participate in occult practices.

Talking the dead is something witches and satanists do because it's not talking to people that have passed away from this life... it's talking to demons.
Saul went to a soothsayer to speak to the dead . AN act FORBIDDEN BY GOD . your right my friend .
WE ought not be talking to the dead at all . nor praying to saints , mary or angels .
 
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The original thread is "Russia or China".

It is meant to be thought provoking in relation to what is going on in current events.

Please stay on topic. I know we deviated somewhat.

Thanks.