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Peterlag

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Deny the deity of Jesus
Deny the existence of life when the body dies.

I do not know what else you believe, so I do not know how closely you are aligned with Watchtower teaching.
From what I have been able to learn from talking with @Aunty Jane is that the Watchtower folks believe Jesus was around in some form in the Old Testament. I don't believe anything like that.
 

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Well then you do not believe the bible then.
@Behold seems to be a sharp guy and he says "Catholicism is just one more "doctrine of Devils"... perhaps the most popular, next to Islam." So if he's correct... then what you are defending was started by the Catholics.
 

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@Behold seems to be a sharp guy and he says "Catholicism is just one more "doctrine of Devils"... perhaps the most popular, next to Islam." So if he's correct... then what you are defending was started by the Catholics.
Sorry but Catholicism did not start the trinity or eternal souls and spirits. Eternal lake of fire torment, the pre-existence of Jesus and any other belief you hold contrary to the plain teaching of Scripture.

Every sect of "Christendom" have right doctrines and wrong doctrines. The RCC leads in the most wrong doctrines.
 

Ronald Nolette

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I thought about you today because you have asked me many times if I sin. You need to get off of me by not asking if I'm sinless. And ask if I'm sinless in Christ.
All of us who walk in christ will not sin. but you imply you are in christ 24/7 so that in you rlife you never sin again.

Stop sounding so mystic and deal with people on this level and not your cryuptic ways.

When I walk in christ I am incapable of sin, but alas like all other true believers, there are times I walk in the old man, though it has been declared dead by God. Just as you do.
 

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When I walk in christ I am incapable of sin,

Is Christ a sinner?
Is there sin found in Christ?

Really?

So, when you teach that you are "in Christ" and you sin, then you are teaching that there is sin "in Christ".

So, its bad enough that you are a self appointed mouthpiece for Calvinism's deception, isnt it?
And now you prove you have no understanding of what it means to be "born again". "in Christ"..

And this is why you tell us that you "sin, confess, and repeat"... as your posts reveal over and over that you have never understood The Cross of Christ, which is why your TULIP - Calvinism is so utterly meaningful to you. @Ronald Nolette
 

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Sorry but Catholicism did not start the trinity or eternal souls and spirits. Eternal lake of fire torment, the pre-existence of Jesus and any other belief you hold contrary to the plain teaching of Scripture.

Every sect of "Christendom" have right doctrines and wrong doctrines. The RCC leads in the most wrong doctrines.
Can you explain from the Bible why God permits this appalling and confusing situation?

The RCC did indeed embrace doctrines that came from outside of scripture….hence their declaration of rejecting “sola scriptura”…...teachings like the split nature of God, immortality of the soul, and hellfire…..none of these are of biblical origin. Protestantism merely retained what it wanted, and threw the rest away at the Reformation.….so all are equally adoptive of false teachings.

Why would God permit false teachings in a “Christian” church? History testifies to the fact that, if and when falsehoods crept in with his people, God would make sure to eradicate every one of them.…by means of his prophets he corrected their errors, and those who promoted them merited God’s punishment.

There can be no “right and wrong doctrines” in a church directed by God’s spirit……Jesus promised to be “with” his true disciples right up until “the end”. (Matt 28:18-20) Would Jesus turn a blind eye to false teachings? Why would he? He has “all authority” given to him by his Father.
 

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All of us who walk in christ will not sin. but you imply you are in christ 24/7 so that in you rlife you never sin again.

Stop sounding so mystic and deal with people on this level and not your cryuptic ways.

When I walk in christ I am incapable of sin, but alas like all other true believers, there are times I walk in the old man, though it has been declared dead by God. Just as you do.
That's probably why you think I can't be in the spirit from sun up till sun down because you can't which is probably because you think walking in him means doing the Word or some nonsense like that.
 

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Is Christ a sinner?
Is there sin found in Christ?

Really?

So, when you teach that you are "in Christ" and you sin, then you are teaching that there is sin "in Christ".

So, its bad enough that you are a self appointed mouthpiece for Calvinism's deception, isnt it?
And now you prove you have no understanding of what it means to be "born again". "in Christ"..

And this is why you tell us that you "sin, confess, and repeat"... as your posts reveal over and over that you have never understood The Cross of Christ, which is why your TULIP - Calvinism is so utterly meaningful to you. @Ronald Nolette
You appear to not understand the English language. Or you intentionally misquote people which is far worse.

I am not a mouthpiece for Calvinism, but biblical truth Calvin reiterated.

You on the other hand ,refuse to defend your positions and instead resort to lying about brethren, straw men and ad-hominem attacks.

NO I know what it means to be born again and be in Christ.

YOu on the other hand deny your own sins which is why you walk in darkness to this day as John said!

1 John 1:8
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Still waiting for your refutation of the 5 points of Calvinism as being un biblical. I am becoming more convinced you do not have the biblical expertise to refute it, given the way you dodge, divert and avoid defending your position.
 

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I am not a mouthpiece for Calvinism, but biblical truth Calvin reiterated.

You are not a mouth piece for Calvinism<>TULIP ??????? And that explains why you have your most recent Thread up and running about Calvinism <> TULIP>

So, you are trying to lie to yourself or to the members here?

Do you comprehend what im showing you?
 

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You are not a mouth piece for Calvinism<>TULIP ??????? And that explains why you have your most recent Thread up and running about Calvinism <> TULIP>

So, you are trying to lie to yourself or to the members here?

Do you comprehend what im showing you?
BLAH BLAH BLAH--PUT your big boy pants on . YOu call your self a biblical teacher, so teach us the bible and show why the five points are unbiblical,IF YOU CAN.
 

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. YOu call your self a biblical teacher, so teach us the bible and show why the five points are unbiblical

I dont want to talk to you about your calvinism issue.
I tried to help you, for months and month, but you are "in too deep for too long".

And now....That's your ministry.
Not mine.

Calvinism is a "doctrine of devils", and He owns your mind,

Paul said...."WHO... has bewitched you, that you no longer obey the Truth"?


A.) CALVIN

= and that is why you want to rant rant rant rant about CALVINISM and TULIP.


So.....Its like this...

God makes : Christians

Calvin made you.. and that is why you are his PREACHER, preaching TULIP.


Do you feel that URGE to write another THREAD about TULIP or CALVINISM, today?

Maybe tomorrow then, @Ronald Nolette ????

You decide as you're that one.
 

Ronald Nolette

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Can you explain from the Bible why God permits this appalling and confusing situation?
Parables of wheat and tares is a good answer. and He allows both to grow lest wheat gets pulled up with the tares.
There can be no “right and wrong doctrines” in a church directed by God’s spirit……Jesus promised to be “with” his true disciples right up until “the end”. (Matt 28:18-20) Would Jesus turn a blind eye to false teachings? Why would he? He has “all authority” given to him by his Father.
Yes their can. YOu are a member of Jehovah's Witness. And even a casual look at their history has shown they have taught many false doctrines over the life of their organization which began c. 1880.
The RCC did indeed embrace doctrines that came from outside of scripture….hence their declaration of rejecting “sola scriptura”…...teachings like the split nature of God, immortality of the soul, and hellfire
These are very biblically based as you have been shown by me and others in several prior threads.
 

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That's probably why you think I can't be in the spirit from sun up till sun down because you can't which is probably because you think walking in him means doing the Word or some nonsense like that.
The very fact that you deny the deity of christ and is a created creature is absolute proof you do not walk in the spirit 24/7, 365 yeasr after year with no falling.
 

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I dont want to talk to you about your calvinism issue.
I tried to help you, for months and month, but you are "in too deep for too long".
No you spewed your venom and hatred.

YOu claim to be a bible teacher and do not teach the bible in your accusations that the five points of Calvinism are not biblical.

all the rest of your post is simply verbal methane.
 

Ronald Nolette

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As i said.

Your Calvinism is showing., and the issue is..

God is not A Calvinist
Jesus is not a Calvinist
Paul is not a Calvinist
The NT does not teach Calvinism

God makes : CHRISTians

Calvin, deceives them. @Ronald Nolette
God is God.

Jesus is God the Son

Paul is a follower of Jesus

The NT teaches the five points as I stated.

Man made the term Christian to mock the followers of Jesus
You have not proven the five points are deceptive.

YOu now have made me wonder-- are you over 18?