Saying you are without sin verses in 1 John

[amigo de christo]

Possibly folks should look to themselves and not just others where imperfections are concerned, we all have them

WE should DO BOTH . BOTH . examine ourselves daily and
those who do sin REBUKE . WE need to start learing our bibles and walk by THE SPIRIT by the TRUTH and not by our sensual emotions .
YOUR RIGHT . WE cant play the HYPROCRITE . WE must do both . Examine ourselves and correct others who err as well .

 

[amigo de christo]

I wrote:
I have no righteousness of obeying the law

You responded:
True. So you act like the world?

Our righteouness does not come by the law . ALL HAVE SINNED . IF i then try and justify myself by the law ,
I AM ONLY CONDMENED BY THE LAW . ALL have sinned . NO sirs and no mams . THE ONLY and i repeat ONLY
way to BE COUNTED RIGHTEOUS , to be JUSTIFIED , IS BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST . I TAKE THIS TO MY GRAVE .

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Oh I do, but sadly it is you who do not.
Why will sin not be your master for you are not under righteousness of obeying the law but under righteousness of faith in Christ? Please tell me

The old covenant laws were merely hitting the surface of sin - what other people could see, except for one. That one commandment condemned them, because it went deeper to our core. That one was coveting. They could still hate and lust, just as long as they didn't go to the extreme of murder and adultery. That is why the law could make no man righteous. We are not under those weak laws. The laws of Christ all go to the core of us. The Holy Spirit indwelling us causes us to grow in the fruit of the Spirit to become Christ-like. He was perfect, and commanded us to be perfect also. Jesus' blood didn't just cover our sin nature, it took it away. A full toilet with the seat down will still stink. But everything that stinks being taken away, no longer stinks. In fact, the blood of Jesus sterilizes us.

cc: @amigo de christo

 

[savedbygrace1]

What are your referring to? If I ever responded to one of your posts with 'great post', it was either by accident or you said something right for once (by accident).

My most recent comment was "Only a carnal mind would misinterpret Scripture like you have. Why don't you leave, as you have promised?"

Most people on here are carnally minded

 

[amigo de christo]

John 8:31-36
To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. 32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”33 They answered him, “We are Abraham’s descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?”34 Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. 35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever. 36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.


Romans 6:6-7
For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin— 7 because anyone who has died has been freed from sin.

Romans 6:16-21
Don't you know that when you offer yourselves to someone to obey him as slaves, you are slaves to the one whom you obey — whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were entrusted. 18 You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.
19 I put this in human terms because you are weak in your natural selves. Just as you used to offer the parts of your body in slavery to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer them in slavery to righteousness leading to holiness. 20 When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness.


1 Corinthians 7:21-22
Were you a slave when you were called? Don't let it trouble you — although if you can gain your freedom, do so. 22 For he who was a slave when he was called by the Lord is the Lord's freedman; similarly, he who was a free man when he was called is Christ's slave.

Galatians 4:7
So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir.

Ephesians 6:6
Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.

1 Peter 2:16
Live as free people, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as God’s slaves.


2 Peter 2:19-20
They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity — for a man is a slave to whatever has mastered him.

Who is your Master/Lord? Jesus or self/sin

hope this helps !!!

IT SURE DOES MY FRIEND . FLOOD this place with all biblcal reminders whereby we shall grow in the faith .

 

[amigo de christo]

Most people on here are carnally minded

VERY TRUE .

 

[savedbygrace1]

The old covenant laws were merely hitting the surface of sin - what other people could see, except for one. That one commandment condemned them, because it went deeper to our core. That one was coveting. They could still hate and lust, just as long as they didn't go to the extreme of murder and adultery. That is why the law could make no man righteous. We are not under those weak laws. The laws of Christ all go to the core of us. The Holy Spirit indwelling us causes us to grow in the fruit of the Spirit to become Christ-like. He was perfect, and commanded us to be perfect also. Jesus' blood didn't just cover our sin nature, it took it away. A full toilet with the seat down will still stink. But everything that stinks being taken away, no longer stinks. In fact, the blood of Jesus sterilizes us.

Could you answer the question now:
Why will sin not be your master for you are not under righteousness of obeying the law but under righteousness of faith in Christ? Please tell me

 

[1stCenturyLady]

I wrote:
I have no righteousness of obeying the law

You responded:
True. So you act like the world?

So, you don't obey the law. Fine, I get it. That is why I asked if you act like the world who doesn't obey the law either.

 

[savedbygrace1]

So, you don't obey the law. Fine, I get it. That is why I asked if you act like the world who doesn't obey the law either.

I tell you I am not under righteousness of obeying the law and you respond with the above? No wonder you're on the internet. You totally lack understanding of Paul's core message, and the new covenant

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Could you answer the question now:
Why will sin not be your master for you are not under righteousness of obeying the law but under righteousness of faith in Christ? Please tell me

I always know my scriptures and where they can be found. You do the same and always give a text to your beliefs as proof. It looks like you are still in Paul's teaching on the law.

 

[savedbygrace1]

I always know my scriptures and where they can be found. You do the same and always give a text to your beliefs as proof. It looks like you are still in Paul's teaching on the law.

Anyone can quote the letter of scripture, but now I have asked you to discern what is meant in the letter, and you cannot do it

 

[1stCenturyLady]

I tell you I am not under righteousness of obeying the law and you respond with the above? No wonder you're on the internet. You totally lack understanding of Paul's core message, and the new covenant

Just the opposite and I am trying to teach you what you obviously don't know.

Here is the truth you don't know about what grace is. Grace is the power of God given to us to naturally obey His righteousness and to be righteous.

 

[savedbygrace1]

Just the opposite and I am trying to teach you what you obviously don't know.

Here is the truth you don't know about what grace is. Grace is the power of God given to us to naturally obey His righteousness and to be righteous.

So, you don't obey the law. Fine, I get it. That is why I asked if you act like the world who doesn't obey the law either.
I tell you I am not under righteousness of obeying the law and you respond with the above? No wonder you're on the internet. You totally lack understanding of Paul's core message, and the new covenant

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Anyone can quote the letter of scripture, but now I have asked you to discern what is meant in the letter, and you cannot do it

I already did. The letter of the law is like the commandment to keep the Sabbath. The letter is one day a week. The Spirit is Jesus abiding inside of us 24/7/365.

 

[1stCenturyLady]

So, you don't obey the law. Fine, I get it. That is why I asked if you act like the world who doesn't obey the law either.
I tell you I am not under righteousness of obeying the law and you respond with the above? No wonder you're on the internet. You totally lack understanding of Paul's core message, and the new covenant

The law was easy to keep on the surface. It is the New Covenant that is much harder. It looks like you are in neither

Having faith in Jesus doesn't make us sin.

 

[savedbygrace1]

I already did. The letter of the law is like the commandment to keep the Sabbath. The letter is one day a week. The Spirit is Jesus abiding inside of us 24/7/365.

You keep having to evade explaining scripture don't you. That's the problem here, just quoting the letter is not enough to understand the message

 

[savedbygrace1]

The law was easy to keep on the surface. It is the New Covenant that is much harder. It looks like you are in neither

Having faith in Jesus doesn't make us sin.

Neither you nor anyone else perfectly obeys the letter of the law, so you do indeed commit sin. Better to be honest than make false statements

 

[1stCenturyLady]

Neither you nor anyone else perfectly obeys the letter of the law, so you do indeed commit sin. Better to be honest than make false statements

If you are asking if I keep the 7th day holy, no I don't by the Law, so by that you have grounds to say I'm a sinner. Happy now? But I am living the Spirit of the law which no Jew under to law could ever do.

 

[savedbygrace1]

All I'm getting here is people picking certain scriptures, and claiming they perfectly adhere to the letter of them. Its a shallow understanding of the bible, and making false claims as well. Perfect for the internet I guess

 

[1stCenturyLady]

All I'm getting here is people picking certain scriptures, and claiming they perfectly adhere to the letter of them. Its a shallow understanding of the bible, and making false claims as well. Perfect for the internet I guess

Are you a willful sinner?

 

[savedbygrace1]

If you are asking if I keep the 7th day holy, no I don't by the Law, so by that you have grounds to say I'm a sinner. But I am living the Spirit of the law which no Jew under to law could ever do.

The law was not abolished, only righteousness of obeying the law was abolished. John stated:
Sin is(not was) the transgression of the law

And you most certainly do not fully obey the law within you