Shroud of Turin: Absolute proof the man seen in it is Jesus Christ

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Tong2020

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No..I'm from the Constantine Religion... the Traditional CC.. Mary side. I see you guys as reformers.

Do not say all had sinned then exclude Jesus. Its obvious Mary was excluded. She was to give birth to Son of God.
brian100, if you know a lot about Mary, why can't you answer my simple question: Did Mary need a Savior, according to your Bible? If so, what does your Bible say why she need a Savior?

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I won't answer nothing until you say what you are.

She went straight to heaven.. (she liveth and belvieth in Jesus) The Lazarus thing. The never die promise. But she was Queen of Heaven and MOG to Jesus.

 
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I've already said so..

I'm the old Catholic Church believer.


Yes I spent 8 years in Catholic school.. like any normal kids. Baptism to Confirm.. then public school b.c I was too dumb for Bishop Amat..
 
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brian100

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My religion is Bible believing Christianity.

So you picked up a bible what age and said I believe Jesus is God? What denomination do you identify with.


Mary is a sinner saved by the Blood of Jesus.


Who taught you this? I'm pretty sure you didn't come up with that on your own. Its okay bring some more friends to help you, and bring your pastor who told you this lie. . . I'll show him the Shroud. Nobody learns that on their own.

I'll just prove to you that you didn't come up with that all by yourself.

You never saw the Immaculate heart of Mary and your blind to it. You learn it as a Catholic. These aren't just pics to laugh at. They are works of Jesus Christ.

The-shroud30.jpg
 
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Tong who is Mary to you?
I already told you in some of my posts. So let me repeat them for you. Please pay attention this time. Also, I hope you could be honest next time around to answer questions as I answer yours.

Mary is the mother of my Savior the Lord Jesus Christ, in the flesh. Besides Jesus, she had other children. And Mary, like sinful mankind, needed a savior, who else but God. She is not deity but is human. She is dead and had been dead for about 2000 years now. I have the highest respect for her above all women. I love her. I call her Blessed, as the scriptures says she is the highly favored one and is blessed among women.

Do you believe Mary is Deity as Jesus is?
Do you believe that Mary needs someone to save her, that is, a Savior?
Tell us, what else is Mary to you?


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brian100

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And Mary, like sinful mankind, needed a savior, who else but God. She is not deity but is human. She is dead

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Who told you .. that lie? No way you come to know it on your own. And if shes dead why do you believe in Jesus. (your in checkmate)

Its my job to know more than you.

You preach she needed to be saved, then says she as dead as everyone. No way you believe in Jesus. Atheist all believe we're all dead one day.

I think you are coming here to laugh.. and say fooled you I didn't really believe Jesus could save anyone.

The Shroud shows hes God... and it was important to him to put Mary in one of his lights.
 
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Who told you .. that lie? No way you come to know it on your own. And if shes dead why do you believe in Jesus. (your in checkmate)

Its my job to know more than you.

You preach she needed to be saved, then says she as dead as everyone. No way you believe in Jesus. Atheist all believe we're all dead one day.

I think you are coming here to laugh.. and say fooled you I didn't really believe Jesus could save anyone.

The Shroud shows hes God... and it was important to him to put Mary in one of his lights.
Jesus is God. God is sinless. Mary is not God. Is Mary your God?
 

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Who told KC Mary was a big sinner. Tell us really how you found that out.


Douay-Rheims Bible
Luke 1
28And the angel being come in, said unto her: Hail, full of grace, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.



She was blessed above all woman.. and full of grace. Look up the word in a state of Grace.
 

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Who told KC Mary was a big sinner. Tell us really how you found that out.
Romans 5:12
12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned--

Yes, Mary sinned!
 

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You just told me all are dead, or will die, according to Paul.

I told you with Jesus you shall never die.
 

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You just told me all are dead, or will die, according to Paul.

I told you with Jesus you shall never die.
You don't know who your god is? Jesus is the Christian God.

John 1 The Word was God.
The Word became flesh ....
 

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Mary was not a sinner. She was the Immaculate conception. And her Immaculate heart is present on the Shroud of Turin.

The-shroud30.jpg


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Now this conversation is over. Good night.
 
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Mary was not a sinner. She was the Immaculate conception. And her Immaculate heart is present on he Shroud of Turin.

The-shroud30.jpg


heart1.jpg


Now this conversation is over. Good night.
Your faith is a pic? The Bible says Mary was a sinner. How do you know the pic isn't a fake? You don't.