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Feel free to post any of your favorite passages from: Song of Solomon. Last night was the first time I had ever really read any of the Song of Solomon. I knew it was there, but somehow I’ve always excluded it along with other books I haven’t paid much attention to.

wrong or right a few thoughts came up last night that made some of the Song my new favorite. For example:
Song of Solomon 2:13
“The fig tree has ripened its figs, and the vines in blossom have given [their] fragrance. Arise my darling, my beautiful one, And come along!” Ephesians 5:1-2 Be you therefore followers of God, as dear children; [2] And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and (in blossom) has given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour. (Fragrance)

The fig tree has ripened its figs, and the vines in blossom have given [their] fragrance. 2 Corinthians 2:14-16 Now thanks be unto God, which always causes us to triumph (blossom) in Christ, and makes manifest (have given their fragrance) the savour of his knowledge by us in every place. [15] For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: [16] To the one we are the savour (fragrance) of death unto death; and to the other the savour (fragrance) of life unto life. And who is sufficient (to blossom) giving of the savour for these things?
 
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“Catch the foxes for us,
The little foxes that are ruining the vineyards,
While our vineyards are in blossom.”
‘And he said unto them, Go you, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day and to morrow, and the third day I shall be perfected.’ Luke 13:32
 

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Feel free to post any of your favorite passages from: Song of Solomon. Last night was the first time I had ever really read any of the Song of Solomon. I knew it was there, but somehow I’ve always excluded it along with other books I haven’t paid much attention to.

wrong or right a few thoughts came up last night that made some of the Song my new favorite. For example:
Song of Solomon 2:13
“The fig tree has ripened its figs, and the vines in blossom have given [their] fragrance. Arise my darling, my beautiful one, And come along!” Ephesians 5:1-2 Be you therefore followers of God, as dear children; [2] And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and (in blossom) has given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour. (Fragrance)

The fig tree has ripened its figs, and the vines in blossom have given [their] fragrance. 2 Corinthians 2:14-16 Now thanks be unto God, which always causes us to triumph (blossom) in Christ, and makes manifest (have given their fragrance) the savour of his knowledge by us in every place. [15] For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish: [16] To the one we are the savour (fragrance) of death unto death; and to the other the savour (fragrance) of life unto life. And who is sufficient (to blossom) giving of the savour for these things?

You and I both Vicky. It is a very easy book to overlook, even though it has 7 chapters, we rarely get into it for study. It is part of the inspired Scriptures so we can learn from it. It is valuable because of a couple of reasons, first, it teaches us what true love between a man and a woman is. Second, the song illustrates the type of love that exists between Jesus Christ and the congregation of anointed Christians.—2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:25-31.

It provides lessons for relationships: 1:2; 2:6. Clean expressions of endearment may be appropriate during courtship. However, a couple should take care that these are manifestations of genuine affection and not of unclean passion, which may pave the way for sexual immorality.—Galatians 5:19.

1:6; 2:10-15. The Shulammite’s brothers did not allow their sister to go with her beloved to an isolated place in the mountains but not because she was immoral or did not have proper motives. Rather, they took a precautionary measure intended to prevent her from getting into a situation that might lead to temptation. The lesson for courting couples is that they should avoid secluded places.

2:1-3, 8, 9. Though beautiful, the Shulammite maiden modestly viewed herself as “a mere saffron [a common flower] of the coastal plain.” Because of her beauty and faithfulness to Jehovah, the shepherd boy thought of her as “a lily among thorny weeds.” And what can be said about him? Because he was handsome, to her he resembled “a gazelle.” He must also have been spiritually inclined and devoted to Jehovah. “Like an apple tree [that provides shade and fruit] among the trees of the forest,” she says, “so is my dear one among the sons.” Are not faith and devotion to God desirable qualities to look for in a prospective marriage mate?

2:7; 3:5. The country girl felt no romantic attraction to Solomon. She also put the court ladies under oath not to try to arouse in her love for anyone other than the shepherd boy. It is neither possible nor proper to feel romantic love for just anyone. A single Christian desiring to marry should consider only a loyal servant of Jehovah.—1 Corinthians 7:39.
 

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Second, the song illustrates the type of love that exists between Jesus Christ and the congregation of anointed Christians.—2 Corinthians 11:2; Ephesians 5:25-31.

can see that. How it spoke to me last night that caught my interest was in considering “beloved” of course in “this is My beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. hear Him.” But also “beloved” in relation to “beloved” brothers or “beloved” sisters in Christ. I don’t hear sexual. Or perverted. But a Song as in “strengthening yourselves in Songs” …the “beloved” yearning…which I looked up how many times “My beloved” is there in the Song. Often. As in Love God with all your mind body and soul, but the second is like unto the first “Love your neighbor as yourself” …the Song of Solomon sounds similar to me as when Paul spoke of one having to go away for a season, to return as not a servant, but instead above a servant “as a dearly beloved” …the Song of Solomon sounds like a call to return above a servant, as a dearly beloved.

Song of Solomon 3:13
Have you seen him who my soul loves?

the shepherd boy thought of her as “a lily among thorny weeds.” And what can be said about him?

Lillies among thorns
Sounds similar to
Philippians 2:15 That you (dearly beloved) may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation , among whom you shine as lights in the world;

My beloved is mine
And I am His.
He pastures [His flock] among lillies.

Listen! My beloved!
Behold, He is coming.

to come into His garden to gather the lilies
 
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2:7; 3:5. The country girl felt no romantic attraction to Solomon. She also put the court ladies under oath not to try to arouse in her love for anyone other than the shepherd boy.


Don’t awake My Love until she pleases.
Makes me think of without Faith it impossible to please God. Again…makes me think of Paul with the weaker brother…where he said if he destroyed him who was weaker, that he sinned against Christ.

don’t awaken a Dearly beloved until Faith is grown because (in rooting up the tares, you also root up the wheat with the tares… makes me think of you might just root up yourself)
without faith it impossible to please God, don’t awaken My Love, don’t stir up my beloved until she pleases???
1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord (Faith)come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God.​

If so, you sin against Christ for without Faith it is impossible to please God. Destroy not your brother (beloved of God) whom Christ died for

crazy? I’ve always wondered why Paul didn’t lay hands on the weaker brother, going from but not all have this knowledge as you have…to emphasize and log-suffering with… why didn’t Paul seize the weaker and shake him to awake the weaker to righteousness? Instead Paul modeled the righteous of Christ (Imo) towards the one who was yet without strength, in patience “until she pleases
2 Timothy 2:24-26 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, [25] In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; [26] And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.​

“awaken My Love” instead “if you so sin against Christ, you no longer walk in Charity towards your (beloved) brother for whom Christ died…so Who there has Faith for without it is impossible to please God. Imo …Paul. Without having the Faith in God to arouse the one weaker for whom Christ died for …then it would have been impossible for Paul to please God, going against that Faith in God to arouse from sleep, to awaken to righteousness where Christ will gives Light… without light…where one says he is in the Light but hates his brother, he is in darkness still…no longer walking in Charity having all faith to move mountains but no charity …”I am nothing.”

just thinking… more letting it sink in with the Song of Solomon …seeking, seeking, calling to, searching for My beloved…
 
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Song of Songs 5:4-9 My beloved put in his hand by the hole of the door, and my bowels were moved for him.

For God is my record, how greatly I long after you all in the bowels of Jesus Christ. [9] And this I pray, that your love may abound yet more and more in knowledge and in all judgment; Philippians 1:8-9​

I rose up to open to my beloved (for he knocked); and my hands dropped with myrrh, and my fingers with sweet smelling myrrh, upon the handles of the lock. [6] I opened to my beloved; but my beloved had withdrawn himself, and was gone: my soul failed when he spake: I sought him, but I could not find him; I called him, but he gave me no answer. [7] The watchmen that went about the city found me, they smote me, they wounded me; the keepers of the walls took away my veil from me. [8] I charge you, O daughters of Jerusalem, if you find my beloved, that you tell him, that I am sick of love.

Amos 5:21-23
I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies. [22] Though ye offer me burnt offerings and your meat offerings, I will not accept them : neither will I regard the peace offerings of your fat beasts. [23] Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols.

What is your beloved more than another beloved, O thou fairest among women?

Matthew 5:46 For if you love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?

what is your beloved more than another beloved, that you do so charge us?

they found me
Smote me
Wounded me
The keepers of the wall took my veil​

Matthew 5:47-48 And if you salute your brethren only, what do you more than others ? do not even the publicans so? [48] Be you therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

My beloved knocked;
So I opened
and my hands dropped with myrrh, and my fingers with sweet smelling myrrh, upon the handles of the lock.

I opened to my beloved; but my beloved had withdrawn himself, and was gone: my soul failed when he spake:

depart from me you worker of inquiry, for I never knew you. my soul failed as he spake. My beloved? Has anyone seen my beloved?

I sought him, but I could not find him; I called him, but he gave me no answer. [7] The watchmen that went about the city found me, they smote me, they wounded me; the keepers of the walls took away my veil from me.

Song of Solomon…He keeps asking “has anyone seen my beloved?”
why did the keepers of the wall take away his veil from him? Why did the watchmen, find him, smote him, wounded him?​
 
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I suppose there are any number of ways to spiritualize Song, and they're
probably all very useful. Nothing especially wrong with allegories; I mean,
the apostle Paul allegorized an event from the Old Testament to illustrate his
point in Gal 4:21-31, so I think it's probably okay.

But as for me I'd much rather take this little book in the Old Testament
prima facie, viz: as a romantic fantasy rather than some sort of mystical
writing.

Now; according to 2Tim 3:15-17; all scripture is given by inspiration of God,
and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in
righteousness: that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly furnished
unto all good works.

So then, how does Song fulfill that statement? Well; I think it's pretty
obvious that Song is going to illustrate the effect that true heart-felt
romantic love has on people which is very beneficial for Christians who grew
up in dysfunctional homes and/or coming out of a religion that made them
feel guilty about their thoughts and feelings for the opposite gender.
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Song 1:1 . . Solomon's song of songs.

Solomon penned quite a few songs; something like 1,005 (1Kings 4:32).
Whether he wrote the music too or just the lyrics; I don't know; maybe. He
was a very intelligent guy, but that doesn't necessarily mean he was a
musician; nor even that he could carry a tune; but then he didn't have too.
Solomon had a number of professional singers on the payroll. (Ecc 2:8)

"song of songs" suggests a colloquialism like Sadaam Hussein's "mother of
all wars". In other words: this particular song may have represented
Solomon's best work to date.

In a number of places throughout Song, speakers don't address anyone in
particular. In point of fact, quite a bit of dialogue throughout Song is what's
called soliloquy; defined by Webster's as a poem, discourse, or utterance of
a character in a drama that has the form of a monologue, or gives the
illusion of being a series of unspoken reflections. In other words: talking with
and/or to one's self.

We also run across places where the soliloquy isn't vocal; rather, imagined;
viz: thoughts.

The Juliet in this musical story is assumed to be a girl called Shulamite
(Song 6:13), from the Hebrew word Shuwlammiyth (shoo-lam-meeth')
which is apparently a pet name rather than a real name. It means peaceful;
defined by Webster's as untroubled by conflict, agitation, or commotion, i.e.
quiet, tranquil, and devoid of violence and force.

The "untroubled" aspect of her pet name caught my attention because it
strongly suggests, at least to me anyway, that Song's Juliet didn't lose her
composure under duress; in other words; she was unlikely to throw a hissy
fit when things didn't go her way.

That's a fitting pet name for the girl because later on in Song, she's spoken
of as a dove; a bird well-known the world over as having a gentle
disposition.

Personally I don't much care for the name Shulamite because it's not all that
feminine, and it suggests an ethnic identity rather than a pet name; so I
prefer to call her Shulah.

BTW: Solomon's Hebrew name Shelomoh (shel-o-mo') compliments Shula's;
it means peaceful, which is pretty much the same meaning as hers.
However, I don't really care for the sound of that name either so I prefer to
call him Shiloh. (cf. Gen 49:10)

The Rest Of The Story
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