Starting to understand "hate his own life"

[TitusTwoWife]

Luke 14:26

King James Version
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

I believe Im beginning to understand why we should hate our own lives to inherit eternal life.

The business of living and it's duties can be such a distraction from seeking God. Life itself is essentially forcing us to attend to it's business and not focus on God's presence as much.

Thoughts?

 

[Episkopos]

Luke 14:26

King James Version
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

I believe Im beginning to understand why we should hate our own lives to inherit eternal life.

The business of living and it's duties can be such a distraction from seeking God. Life itself is essentially forcing us to attend to it's business and not focus on God's presence as much.

Thoughts?

We tend to learn things through failures. It is through failure that we see our true condition. We might escape the bullet and think we are doing well for a number of times until our number is up. When the truth hits us, we want to crawl under a rock...OR...come humbly before the Lord ready for whatever He wants of us. David was like that...going before God in humility after his many failures.

Here is my take on HATING one's life.

I think this is about no longer seeing oneself as an individual...hating the life that is independent from God. Our salvation, our safety, is to belong to Christ...to be INSIDE His Body. We see life from THERE...from that vantage point. In my instruction in righteousness I have gradually, over time, stopped caring about my own condition...instead seeing myself as a small part of a greater whole. That is our way into wholeness. We shrink ourselves into it. People are looking to be elevated...but we are to humble ourselves into wholeness.

Dig roots downward and bear fruit upward. (Is 37:31, 2 Kings 19:30)

 

[Taken]

Starting to understand "hate his own life"​

Regarding Paul…

His body is “still” mortal…
He gets hot, tired, angry, overwhelmed, impatient, sick, upset, scared etc….

All the things that “we all experience”… and troublesome when “your mission” is Preach to Jews, Gentiles, kings…
That may rather “ plot to kill you, than lend their ear to you.”

 

[marks]

Luke 14:26

King James Version
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

I believe Im beginning to understand why we should hate our own lives to inherit eternal life.

The business of living and it's duties can be such a distraction from seeking God. Life itself is essentially forcing us to attend to it's business and not focus on God's presence as much.

Thoughts?

Love and Hate as action words, we commit ourselves to serving God, doing what pleases Him, doing what He intends for us, and hating our own lives, working to put that old man to death. Like this:

Malachi 1:2-4 KJV
2) I have loved you, saith the LORD. Yet ye say, Wherein hast thou loved us? Was not Esau Jacob's brother? saith the LORD: yet I loved Jacob,
3) And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.
4) Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever.

This is hatred that says, "whatever you try to build up, I'm going to tear it down", because we love God, so we want His life to prevail, not our fleshy life.

Much love!

 

[TLHKAJ]

The business of living and it's duties can be such a distraction from seeking God. Life itself is essentially forcing us to attend to it's business and not focus on God's presence as much.

Thoughts?

I think that when we serve others, we are to do it as unto the Lord, and it is an act of worship. Of course, there is balance. God has led me to slow down significantly over the last 4 months and be intentional about where He wants me to focus. He hasn't taken every responsibility away, but He has shown me areas where I can pare back. He has called me to rest my body, refuel, refocus.

What always comes to mind when I read those passages is that if you're given a choice between spouse and God, or parents, etc, and God... we choose God. We choose to follow Christ even if it means our loved ones walk away.

 

[TLHKAJ]

Starting to understand "hate his own life"​

Regarding Paul…

His body is “still” mortal…
He gets hot, tired, angry, overwhelmed, impatient, sick, upset, scared etc….

All the things that “we all experience”… and troublesome when “your mission” is Preach to Jews, Gentiles, kings…
That may rather “ plot to kill you, than lend their ear to you.”

Loving not your life into the death ....

 

[Fathom]

Luke 14:26

King James Version
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

I believe Im beginning to understand why we should hate our own lives to inherit eternal life.

The business of living and it's duties can be such a distraction from seeking God. Life itself is essentially forcing us to attend to it's business and not focus on God's presence as much.

Thoughts?

What is the difference between Luke 14:26 and Exodus 20:12?

Can honor and hate be true at the same time?

 

[ProDeo]

What is the difference between Luke 14:26 and Exodus 20:12?

Can honor and hate be true at the same time?

Point being of Luke 14:26 is to put God at the first place if a difficult situation requires so.

 

[David Lamb]

I think Matthew gives us the true meaning:

Mat 10:37 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me.

As Jesus elsewhere teaches Christians to love their enemies, He surely cannot mean that we are to treat our parents with hatred.

 

[TitusTwoWife]

Thanks for all these responses. I feel like as we read Scripture, it reads us back. Everyone's response revealed a little bit about them. I think my OP said a bit about me.

At this time in my life, I'm not called to spend hours of uninterrupted time in the Word or in prayer. But I often long to. I long to be with the Father face to face even.

 

[Lambano]

Starting to understand "hate his own life"​

These three parallel passages from the Synoptics give me a feel for what I think Jesus was getting at.

And now that I'm old, I can't help but wonder, with all our emphasis on getting our precious butts saved and staying saved, all this focus on ourselves, have we missed Jesus's point?

 

[quietthinker]

Luke 14:26

King James Version
26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.

I believe Im beginning to understand why we should hate our own lives to inherit eternal life.

The business of living and it's duties can be such a distraction from seeking God. Life itself is essentially forcing us to attend to it's business and not focus on God's presence as much.

Thoughts?

Romans 7 makes this mystery plain for me

 

[ShineTheLight]

Romans 7 makes this mystery plain for me

What about John 8:10-11?

 

[Sel@h]

I believe that the translation of the word "hate“ is what’s confusing us. In the Strong's Greek dictionary, the term "Miseo" (entry #3404) actually conveys the idea of "loving less." Therefore, the instruction is to love others less than we love the Lord.

 

[quietthinker]

What about John 8:10-11?

what about it?

 

[Rockerduck]

When you remember the life of sin you had before Christ, you are sorrowful. You are forgiven of all sin but still you sin sometimes or think of a sinful thing and can't forgive yourself. This results in hating oneself and Christ knows what a sinner you were, so hating oneself brings us closer to Christ who makes us a citizen of heaven. In this life you suffer and suffering identifies us with Christ's suffering. Trials and tribulations are a part of it. All the apostles understood this. The Apostle Paul said in Acts 14:22 -Strengthening the souls of the disciples, encouraging them to continue in the faith, and sayin, "Through many tribulations we must enter the Kingdom of God."

Romans 8:17 -And if children, then heirs (namely, heirs of God and also fellow heirs with Christ) if indeed we suffer with him so we may also be glorified with him.

Philippians 1:29 - For it has been granted to you not only to believe in Christ but also to suffer for him,

The Apostle Peter says this is expected

1 Peter 4:12-13 -Dear friends, do not be astonished that a trial by fire is occurring among you, as though something strange were happening to you. 13 But rejoice in the degree that you have shared in the sufferings of Christ, so that when his glory is revealed you may also rejoice and be glad.