Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism

[Wynona]

This has been my story. Feminism provides a framework to express grievances against gender inequality. The Word of God caused me to look inward at my own sins, failures, and ways I almost destroyed our marriage.

I deserved the punishment of a terrible and lonely life for this. God showed grace and favor on me and restored us, supplying us with wisdom instead. He gets the credit.

 

[Wrangler]

Charity? Wrangler, if I see someone -- ANYONE -- struggling to open a door, I RUSH to open it for them.

That's good for you but you denied even having responsibility to sexually satisfy your husband. Being charitable in one instance and not in the other is NOT charitable.

 

[Wrangler]

Once again, Feminism is about FAIRNESS.

It's about equal RIGHTS.

BS. See list of 10 unfair things (perfect examples) against men that not one feminism is marching in the streets for!

 

[Wrangler]

I've mentioned that I have a "man of interest". He's in Georgia.

And you're in Vegas? (At least, that's what your by-line says.)

 

[Wrangler]

For others, it's SHAME (I'm a man. I SHOULDN'T need any help). Is that Feminism? Or SOCIETY at large?

Ever hear of the White Feather's given to males in England during WWI out of uniform by feminists to shame them publicly into signing up? Shaming language by feminists have a long history. Ever read how Delilah responded when Samson did not tell her the secret to this strength?

Again, it all goes back to responsibility - or shirking it. OTOH, you're more capable than any man and admit the mantra, "I don't need a man." OTOH, you are not taking any responsibility for womankind's role in shaping society at large. You're all over the place, which all hypocrites have to be. All good things half the population enjoy is due to feminists efforts. All the bad things, not my job.

 

[Wrangler]

Like I've said, if I NEED help, I ASK. But sometimes needing help is OBVIOUS.

The hypocrisy is stunning! Men are not taking the bait of the damsel in distress. Deeming your need for men "obvious" puts no obligation on them, nor does it excuse your EGO getting in the way to humbly ask when you actually need help.

Here is how twisted you are. You pretend like you are so willing to ask for help when you need it except when it is "obvious." That should be a reason you are more willing to ask for help, not be all bitter and resentful than men are not allowing themselves to be toyed with by hypocritical feminist sensibilities.

 

[Wynona]

 

[Mink57]

That's good for you but you denied even having responsibility to sexually satisfy your husband. Being charitable in one instance and not in the other is NOT charitable.

What in the world...? HOW in the WORLD did you get THAT idea?

But now that you got that idea in your head, doesn't my HUSBAND also have the DUTY to sexually satisfy his WIFE?

Talk about being all over the place, Wrangler. You CERTAINLY are!

 

[Mink57]

BS. See list of 10 unfair things (perfect examples) against men that not one feminism is marching in the streets for!

Yeah? So, how come MEN aren't marching in the streets?

 

[Mink57]

And you're in Vegas? (At least, that's what your by-line says.)

Yes.

 

[Wynona]

 

[Mink57]

Ever hear of the White Feather's given to males in England during WWI out of uniform by feminists to shame them publicly into signing up?

Never heard of that. Had to look it up. Shameful of those women.

But you DID remind me of the men who fought in the Vietnam war. How so many fled to Canada to escape the draft. Even though I was a youngster back then, I remember thinking how UNFAIR it was for the government to draft men into a war that NO ONE wanted us to be in.

What's worse is how the Vet's were snubbed when they returned from overseas. No ticker-tape parade. No kisses from random women on their return. Dubbed as "baby-killers" and the like. Disgusting treatment. My late ex-husband was in the Air Force when we met. He wasn't a pilot, but he 'kept the planes going with bubble gum and scotch tape."(His words). So, yes. I was a military wife. A stay-at-home military wife. I DO have an appreciation from what our men...AND WOMEN...in uniform do for us.

Shaming language by feminists have a long history. Ever read how Delilah responded when Samson did not tell her the secret to this strength?

There are probably a lot of "Delilah's" out there.

Again, it all goes back to responsibility - or shirking it. OTOH, you're more capable than any man and admit the mantra, "I don't need a man." OTOH,

You keep harping on this. I'll repeat it once more: I NEVER SAID THAT I DON'T NEED A MAN. What I've said was that I wasn't interested in a romantic relationship. Haven't been for a decade. And even though I have a "man of interest", it doesn't mean that anything will come of it. Yes, he's interested too, but right now he has other commitments, that I RESPECT.

you are not taking any responsibility for womankind's role in shaping society at large.

I'm not responsible for womankind! Sheesh!

You're all over the place, which all hypocrites have to be. All good things half the population enjoy is due to feminists efforts. All the bad things, not my job.

Hey, I'm just following YOUR lead. So if this is all over the place, look at the 3 fingers pointing back at you FIRST.

 

[Mink57]

The hypocrisy is stunning! Men are not taking the bait of the damsel in distress. Deeming your need for men "obvious" puts no obligation on them, nor does it excuse your EGO getting in the way to humbly ask when you actually need help.

Here is how twisted you are. You pretend like you are so willing to ask for help when you need it except when it is "obvious." That should be a reason you are more willing to ask for help, not be all bitter and resentful than men are not allowing themselves to be toyed with by hypocritical feminist sensibilities.

LOL!! As if ALL men KNOW if a woman is a feminist before offering to help!

Offering to help isn't about feminism; it's about human courtesy.

...which we should ALL extend to each other, male, female, young, old, black, white or Chinese, abled or DISabled.

 

[Mink57]

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Why can't it be about serving EACH OTHER? Doesn't the Bible say that we should submit to ONE ANOTHER?

It becomes 'slavery' when ONE person serves the other, and the other takes advantage, and expects to be served, as if he's some king, or she's some princess.

I understand that you're pregnant. Congratulations, and well wishes for a safe delivery! But let me tell ya...there's an old saying: "When it comes to having children, having ONE is like having NONE. Having TWO, well, you may as well have 10." The reason for this saying is because the dynamic can change dramatically when you have more than one child, especially spaced so closely together. It's beautiful to have a tasty meal on the table when hubs comes home from a hard day. But with kids, well....doesn't always work that way. And while YOU may have a good understanding husband, not ALL of us did.

 

[Wynona]

Why can't it be about serving EACH OTHER? Doesn't the Bible say that we should submit to ONE ANOTHER?

It becomes 'slavery' when ONE person serves the other, and the other takes advantage, and expects to be served, as if he's some king, or she's some princess.

I understand that you're pregnant. Congratulations, and well wishes for a safe delivery! But let me tell ya...there's an old saying: "When it comes to having children, having ONE is like having NONE. Having TWO, well, you may as well have 10." The reason for this saying is because the dynamic can change dramatically when you have more than one child, especially spaced so closely together. It's beautiful to have a tasty meal on the table when hubs comes home from a hard day. But with kids, well....doesn't always work that way. And while YOU may have a good understanding husband, not ALL of us did.

Thank you. It's not that we can't serve each other. It's not wrong to desire an understanding husband. But my obedience to God cannot be dependent on these things. It is God who has to fill any void in my heart, not any man. It is Him, I answer to. I am only responsible for my own actions. God is worthy of my obedience, even if my husband chooses the wrong thing or to sin.

My husband is now a good man and morally better than me. But he is human. Weariness and stress affect him regularly. My contentment, my joy, my service, cannot depend solely on my husband. He is not the cornerstone, although I am called to revere him (Ephesians 5:33). Christ is.

My attitude towards serving and my husband reflect my trust and reverence toward the Lord. If I can't love and respect my husband, I cannot expect to be able to love flawed strangers better.

When my husband is flawed and sins, this is an opportunity to sanctify my flesh, die to self, and rely on the Lord as my strength. To love sacrificially and with long suffering the way we are called to.

Also,

People have projected a lot of big difficulties from since before my husband and I got married.

"Just wait till you're past the newlywed phase."

"The seven year itch"

"Just wait till you have children"

I'm here to say God's goodness and our marriage and family will only get better from here. Suffering, we must all go through. With Christ, I can go through it with joy and fruit of the Spirit. That is the heritage of the saints. He's brought me through so much and He won't stop being my portion because I'm adding another baby to our family.

I won't burn out. Christ in me will see me through.

 

[Mink57]

The hypocrisy is stunning! Men are not taking the bait of the damsel in distress. Deeming your need for men "obvious" puts no obligation on them, nor does it excuse your EGO getting in the way to humbly ask when you actually need help.

Here is how twisted you are. You pretend like you are so willing to ask for help when you need it except when it is "obvious." That should be a reason you are more willing to ask for help, not be all bitter and resentful than men are not allowing themselves to be toyed with by hypocritical feminist sensibilities.

And what if it's your WIFE who's in distress? Does she have to BEG you for help, or can you not see that she NEEDS it from you?

You come home from work. You hear your toddler crying in the kitchen. You walk in the kitchen and SEE that your wife is standing over a steaming pot, newborn infant at her breast...toddler grabbing her leg, wanting to be picked up. Dinner isn't ready yet, like you're used to.

What do you do in that scenario, Wrangler? Think, HEY! That's HER job! Or do you realize that she NEEDS help at that moment?

 

[Mink57]

Thank you. It's not that we can't serve each other. It's not wrong to desire an understanding husband. But my obedience to God cannot be dependent on these things. It is God who has to fill any void in my heart, not any man. It is Him, I answer to. I am only responsible for my own actions. God is worthy of my obedience, even if my husband chooses the wrong thing or to sin.

I wonder if you had an abusive husband if you would feel the same way.

My husband is now a good man and morally better than me. But he is human. Weariness and stress affect him regularly. My contentment, my joy, my service, cannot depend solely on my husband. He is not the cornerstone, although I am called to revere him (Ephesians 5:33). Christ is.

My attitude towards serving and my husband reflect my trust and reverence toward the Lord. If I can't love and respect my husband, I cannot expect to be able to love flawed strangers better.

When my husband is flawed and sins, this is an opportunity to sanctify my flesh, die to self, and rely on the Lord as my strength. To love sacrificially and with long suffering the way we are called to.

I have no problem with service. I have a problem with the exploitation of that service.

Also,

People have projected a lot of big difficulties from since before my husband and I got married.

"Just wait till you're past the newlywed phase."

"The seven year itch"

"Just wait till you have children"

I'm here to say God's goodness and our marriage and family will only get better from here. Suffering, we must all go through. With Christ, I can go through it with joy and fruit of the Spirit. That is the heritage of the saints. He's brought me through so much and He won't stop being my portion because I'm adding another baby to our family.

I won't burn out. Christ in me will see me through.

I hope you can report back here in a few years with the same good news. Sorry to say, that there are a TON of women out there, who wouldn't be able to.

 

[Wrangler]

But now that you got that idea in your head, doesn't my HUSBAND also have the DUTY to sexually satisfy his WIFE?

Always flipping the script! You just can’t admit women have responsibilities.

HOW in the WORLD did you get THAT idea?

IF you accepted the responsibility, you would not put it back on me. And how I got that idea was I mentioned this sort of thing and you seemed to scoff at it.

 

[Mink57]

The hypocrisy is stunning! Men are not taking the bait of the damsel in distress. Deeming your need for men "obvious" puts no obligation on them, nor does it excuse your EGO getting in the way to humbly ask when you actually need help.

Here is how twisted you are. You pretend like you are so willing to ask for help when you need it except when it is "obvious." That should be a reason you are more willing to ask for help, not be all bitter and resentful than men are not allowing themselves to be toyed with by hypocritical feminist sensibilities.

Here ya go, Wrangler. My "man of interest" just texted me that a neighbor...who he hasn't even met...stopped by his house with a case of water. Man of interest didn't ASK for help. But neighbor KNEW man of interest's situation.

Again, can't YOU see when someone...even your WIFE may need help without her asking?

 

[Mink57]

Always flipping the script! You just can’t admit women have responsibilities.


IF you accepted the responsibility, you would not put it back on me. And how I got that idea was I mentioned this sort of thing and you seemed to scoff at it.

Oh, geez...

Responsibility for WHAT? I can say the same thing about YOU, Wrangler. Or are you too DAFT to figure that out?

You claim that women don't take responsibility. I can say the same thing about men. SERIOUSLY dude....WHY don't you get that?