Team Gog And Magog Meet In Geneva" Russia, Iran, Turkey Ezekiel 38====Yes!! We are living in the last days!!
Team Gog And Magog Meet In Geneva" Russia, Iran, Turkey Ezekiel 38
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CoreIssue
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Along those lines, Merkel of Germany has called for EU member nations to transfer their power in government over to Brussels.
Remember she opened the door for Muslims to enter Germany to build up its population.
Biblically, I believe Germany will leave the EU and ally with Russia, taking part in the attempted invasion of Israel.
Merkel has announced she will not run for reelection.
France, the Netherlands, Italy, Austria, Finland, and Hungary are calling for a referendum on leaving as well.
Remember she opened the door for Muslims to enter Germany to build up its population.
Biblically, I believe Germany will leave the EU and ally with Russia, taking part in the attempted invasion of Israel.
Merkel has announced she will not run for reelection.
France, the Netherlands, Italy, Austria, Finland, and Hungary are calling for a referendum on leaving as well.
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CoreIssue
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Post-millennial God destroys the heavens and the earth when the AC attacks Jerusalem again after being freed from a thousand years in the pit.
Not quite Corel, According to Rev. 19:20 both the beast (a/c) and the false prophet are thrown into the lake of fire. Only satan is bound for a 1000 yrs. until his final release. However, a lot will happen before the earth is again re-purposed. For all we know there could be another 1000 yrs. or more after satan is released. It will take a while to tempt the whole re-populated earth.
CoreIssue
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You changed my quote. I said post, not pre-.
The Bible is quite clear. After Satan is released from his thousand years in the pit he attacks Jerusalem again and then the heavens and the earth are destroyed.
I was correcting that it is satan and NOT the a/c who attacks Jerusalem after the mill. It doesn't imply that he immediately attacks Jerusalem after his release. He is given time to try and deceive the nations. Rev. 20:8
What does this passage from Revelation tell us about the beast: -
Revelation 17:7-8: - The Meaning of the Woman and the Beast
7 But the angel said to me, "Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns. 8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
7 But the angel said to me, "Why did you marvel? I will tell you the mystery of the woman and of the beast that carries her, which has the seven heads and the ten horns. 8 The beast that you saw was, and is not, and will ascend out of the bottomless pit and go to perdition. And those who dwell on the earth will marvel, whose names are not written in the Book of Life from the foundation of the world, when they see the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
I think you need to go back to the drawing boards again to sort out your thinking on this.
Shalom
Sorry Jay, but I'm not getting your point. Yes the beast is the same as the one out of the sea (which can mean nations) however that doesn't contradict the point I was making.
And they're going to steal all of Israel's cattle using spears and wooden shields...
What did you say previously?
The passage that I had quoted said that the Beast also rose up out of the Bottomless pit and go to perdition or to put it another way into the lake of fire with the false prophet: -
Now for your information, you are presenting the Reformation theology that was used to demonize the Roman Catholic Church back at the time of the reformation and has persisted to the present day, which is very wrong.
We are told in scripture that the Beasts of Daniel 7:1-12 are judged in heaven in Isaiah 24:21-22 at the same time as the people and kings of the earth are judged on the earth. Revelation 12 also tells us that there was no place found for Satan and the other fallen heavenly hosts, i.e. including the four beasts and the little horn beast, and they are all imprisoned in a pit for many days. We are also informed that Satan sends a flood after Israel, i.e. a massive army to destroy Israel at that time, of people, but these kings and their armies are judged at Armageddon at the same time as Satan, the four beasts and the little horn beast, i.e. the false prophet, are judged in heaven. In Revelation 20:1-3 we are told that Satan is caught and imprisoned as soon as he sets foot on the earth after this judgement, and locked up in the Bottomless Pit which confirms that Isaiah 24:21-22 verses and if Satan will be put into the Bottomless Pit in our near future for a 1,000 year period, then the four beasts and the little horn beast are also imprisoned in the Bottomless Pit.
Then in Revelation 9 we are told that the Bottomless pit is unlocked, to firstly release the locusts, i.e. the armies and kings judged at Armageddon to inflict torment on the people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads for 5 months.
Then the beasts are released to kill a third of mankind.
Need I go on to how that the judged beasts of Daniel 7:1-12 were locked up also for a period of 1,000 years before they are released from the bottomless pit.
Now what I had posted did contradict your posted claim. I stand by my statement that you need to go back to the drawing board to sort out your thinking on this matter. The evidence was plainly presented in my first post in response to your claimed nonsense above. In this response, I have only drawn on more evidence from the Book of Revelation.
Shalom
@Trekson
First of all, you have not read what I had posted nor understood the passages that I quoted.
The four beasts are definitely not Babylon, Medes-Persia, Greece and Rome as you are suggesting. The four beasts are demonic wicked fallen heavenly hosts who will be kicked out of heaven in our near future when the Armageddon time of Judgement occurs for the heathen gentiles on the face of the earth who will have been trampling the sanctuary of God for around 2,300 years when the time of their judgement occurs. The signs and triggers for the gathering of the nations at Armageddon have already been put in place and are presently being played out at this present time.
Now the kingdoms/empires who have had dominion within the Land of the Chaldeans from the time of Daniel are Babylon, the Medes and Persians, the Greek Empire which then became the eastern portion of Alexandra the Great's empire after he died at the age of around 33 years old. The Roman Empire came to dominance over another of the divisions of Alexander the Great's broken empire, and is referred to as the northern Empire.
The Babylonians, The Medes/Persians and Grecian empires each had dominion over the Land of the Chaldeans and are the first three segments of the Daniel 2 Statue prophecy but the Roman Empire never had dominion over the Land of the Chaldeans. The Grecian Empire actually cause the land of the Chaldeans to be come desolate and devastated for a period of some 2,000 plus years when they forced the people out of the Land of the Chaldeans. Now, no people group had exercised control over the land of the Chaldeans until after WW1 when Iraq was established as a nation and allowed to occupy the Land of the Chaldeans once more by France and Britain by treaty.
Now in Jeremiah 50, it speaks of two kings coming out of the north to occupy Babylon which are separated by the 2,000 plus years. The first was the Grecian Empire and the second was the Coalition of the Willing lead by the USA which entered the land to heal it and not, as God required to punish it with God's wrath.
Now does the USA exercise the same dominion characteristic as the Grecian Empire 2,000 plus years ago? Yes. Are they the same nation as each other? No. Have they both chosen to inhabit the dominion of the third beast of Daniel 7: 1-12? Yes. The manifestation of the Third beast in the sea of people over time has ebbed and flowed over time with different empires and countries exhibiting the same characteristic as the dominate characteristic of the third beast. If the third beast has exercised control over different people groups over the past 2,500 or so years, then the Grecian Empire is not the only manifestation of the Third Beast. In fact there have been up to four manifestations of the third beast operating at the same time exercising dominion over other people groups. Some of these empires over time have been Grecian, Rome, Spain, France, Britain, Germany, Russia, Japan, The USA, China, India to list a few possibilities that have been on the world stage at the same time exercising dominion over other empires, countries nations and people groups.
All of this can be found as hidden gems in the Bible, but the Protestant Reformation with the fight over religious dominance with the RCC has veiled the truth over the past 400-500 years concerning the Beasts of Daniel 7 in their efforts to demonise RCC.
Now if you look carefully at scripture, you will recognise that the four beasts of Daniel 7:1-12 rise up out of the Bottomless Pit after it is unlocked as a single unified beast that exhibits all of their previous dominate characteristics before they we imprisoned in the Bottomless pit.
That was the point of Revelation 17:7-8. But it is easy to miss the context when we isolate the passages of the bible into discrete independent passages with no interconnections between them. We miss what we are being told in the scriptures as a whole.
That is why I have said that you need to go back to the drawing board and start all over again to gain God's understanding of the scriptures.
Shalom
PS: - If you are going to comment on my post, please do so that they are not lost in the quote of my original post.
First of all, you have not read what I had posted nor understood the passages that I quoted.
The four beasts are definitely not Babylon, Medes-Persia, Greece and Rome as you are suggesting. The four beasts are demonic wicked fallen heavenly hosts who will be kicked out of heaven in our near future when the Armageddon time of Judgement occurs for the heathen gentiles on the face of the earth who will have been trampling the sanctuary of God for around 2,300 years when the time of their judgement occurs. The signs and triggers for the gathering of the nations at Armageddon have already been put in place and are presently being played out at this present time.
Now the kingdoms/empires who have had dominion within the Land of the Chaldeans from the time of Daniel are Babylon, the Medes and Persians, the Greek Empire which then became the eastern portion of Alexandra the Great's empire after he died at the age of around 33 years old. The Roman Empire came to dominance over another of the divisions of Alexander the Great's broken empire, and is referred to as the northern Empire.
The Babylonians, The Medes/Persians and Grecian empires each had dominion over the Land of the Chaldeans and are the first three segments of the Daniel 2 Statue prophecy but the Roman Empire never had dominion over the Land of the Chaldeans. The Grecian Empire actually cause the land of the Chaldeans to be come desolate and devastated for a period of some 2,000 plus years when they forced the people out of the Land of the Chaldeans. Now, no people group had exercised control over the land of the Chaldeans until after WW1 when Iraq was established as a nation and allowed to occupy the Land of the Chaldeans once more by France and Britain by treaty.
Now in Jeremiah 50, it speaks of two kings coming out of the north to occupy Babylon which are separated by the 2,000 plus years. The first was the Grecian Empire and the second was the Coalition of the Willing lead by the USA which entered the land to heal it and not, as God required to punish it with God's wrath.
Now does the USA exercise the same dominion characteristic as the Grecian Empire 2,000 plus years ago? Yes. Are they the same nation as each other? No. Have they both chosen to inhabit the dominion of the third beast of Daniel 7: 1-12? Yes. The manifestation of the Third beast in the sea of people over time has ebbed and flowed over time with different empires and countries exhibiting the same characteristic as the dominate characteristic of the third beast. If the third beast has exercised control over different people groups over the past 2,500 or so years, then the Grecian Empire is not the only manifestation of the Third Beast. In fact there have been up to four manifestations of the third beast operating at the same time exercising dominion over other people groups. Some of these empires over time have been Grecian, Rome, Spain, France, Britain, Germany, Russia, Japan, The USA, China, India to list a few possibilities that have been on the world stage at the same time exercising dominion over other empires, countries nations and people groups.
All of this can be found as hidden gems in the Bible, but the Protestant Reformation with the fight over religious dominance with the RCC has veiled the truth over the past 400-500 years concerning the Beasts of Daniel 7 in their efforts to demonise RCC.
Now if you look carefully at scripture, you will recognise that the four beasts of Daniel 7:1-12 rise up out of the Bottomless Pit after it is unlocked as a single unified beast that exhibits all of their previous dominate characteristics before they we imprisoned in the Bottomless pit.
That was the point of Revelation 17:7-8. But it is easy to miss the context when we isolate the passages of the bible into discrete independent passages with no interconnections between them. We miss what we are being told in the scriptures as a whole.
That is why I have said that you need to go back to the drawing board and start all over again to gain God's understanding of the scriptures.
Shalom
PS: - If you are going to comment on my post, please do so that they are not lost in the quote of my original post.
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