Tell Us Why There Is Both Historic and Ongoing Disagreement Upon All of Scripture.

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@Jared42

Have you been born again from God?

Much love!

 

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Are you going to God right at this moment? Yes or no.

Are you asking me? It's helpful if you either tag or quote the person you are addressing.

Am I going to God right at this moment? No.

But that's a trick answer. We are together right now.

Much love!

 

[Jared42]

Personally, I think you need to learn both manners and the Bible.

We have been seated together with Christ in the heavenly realm. Do you not believe that to be true?

Much love!

Yes, personally referencing yourself reveals what is important to yourself. Thanks for being transparent and apparent.

 

[Jared42]

Are you asking me? It's helpful if you either tag or quote the person you are addressing.

Am I going to God right at this moment? No.

But that's a trick answer. We are together right now.

Much love!

Yes, I am asking you.

What is stopping you from abiding in God?

 

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Yes, I am asking you.

What is stopping you from abiding in God?

That's a "Complex Question". A fallacy.

Much love!

 

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Yes, personally referencing yourself reveals what is important to yourself.

That would be one way to look at it, I suppose. Or I could simply be sharing with you relevant teaching from the Bible.

Much love!

 

[David H.]

You have not been in the presence of God. Fellowship does not provide truth. Chatting about and presupposing an idea like the one you expressed does not place it in reality.

Are you a verbally oriented person, perhaps?

Sounds like you have never experienced the presence of God in your life, and have not beheld His glory.... You change when you do.

There are two types of learners in this world, those who arrive at truth and those who do not.... fellowship is one of the ways we as humans can arrive at Truth, Ultimately Jesus is the truth Personified, (John 14:6) and when you Know Him personally You will arrive at the Truth. Do You Have a personal relationship with Him? Does He Know you?

 

[Jared42]

Sounds like you have never experienced the presence of God in your life, and have not beheld His glory.... You change when you do.

There are two types of learners in this world, those who arrive at truth and those who do not.... fellowship is one of the ways we as humans can arrive at Truth, Ultimately Jesus is the truth Personified, (John 14:6) and when you Know Him personally You will arrive at the Truth. Do You Have a personal relationship with Him? Does He Know you?

 

[Jared42]

Tell us how you have beheld God's Glory. Do you claim to be a "Pentecostal?" Remember, no "Pentecostal" has ever replicated anything which occurred in Acts ch. 2.

Let's see where your patronizing attitude here about "knowing Jesus personally" leads to. Share your personal testimony of that. As you do, tell me what you know of Jesus beyond what is disclosed of Him in Scripture.

Now, do not stray onto some other line of comment. Maintain the integrity of this topic and my question to you, just as Jesus did when speaking to people. You do have the Mind of Christ, correct?

 

[Stumpmaster]

Every Theological tenet, every Doctrine, every context, every thematic principle, every intent of God through any given writer is under discussion, debate, and divergent assessment. There is no standard model, even within single denominations. Everybody looks to fabricate their own understanding. Commonality of belief does clump together, but actual unity rarely comes forward.

Tell Us Why There Is Both Historic and Ongoing Disagreement Upon All of Scripture.
The ideal of unity is ever before us with the reality of division a cross we bear.

The moment I tell why there are disagreements I provide an opportunity for others to disagree with my explanation.

There it is. It's like solving a crime by asking who had the motive, means, and opportunity.

Paul surmises thus:

1Co 11:17-19 Now in giving these instructions I do not praise you, since you come together not for the better but for the worse. (18) For first of all, when you come together as an ekkesia, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it. (19) For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you.

 

[Jared42]

Tell Us Why There Is Both Historic and Ongoing Disagreement Upon All of Scripture.
The ideal of unity is ever before us with the reality of division a cross we bear.

The moment I tell why there are disagreements I provide an opportunity for others to disagree with my explanation.

There it is. It's like solving a crime by asking who had the motive, means, and opportunity.

Paul surmises thus:

1Co 11:17-19 Now in giving these instructions I do not praise you, since you come together not for the better but for the worse. (18) For first of all, when you come together as an ekkesia, I hear that there are divisions among you, and in part I believe it. (19) For there must also be factions among you, that those who are approved may be recognized among you.

There is no Scripture which states you or anyone bears a Cross of the "reality of division."

Do you have a kind of ... "creative" ... type of faith and knowledge for your life in Christ?

 

[David H.]

Tell us how you have beheld God's Glory. Do you claim to be a "Pentecostal?" Remember, no "Pentecostal" has ever replicated anything which occurred in Acts ch. 2.

Let's see where your patronizing attitude here about "knowing Jesus personally" leads to. Share your personal testimony of that. As you do, tell me what you know of Jesus beyond what is discloeed of Him in Scripture.

Now, do not stray onto some other line of comment. Maintain the integrity of this topic and my question to you, just as Jesus did when speaking to people. You do have the Mind of Christ, correct?

Why Don't you ask God to reveal His glory to you.... Be careful though, because you will not be able to stand and spout out your vehement blasphemies against Him.

If my words convicted you watch the video below.

 

[Stumpmaster]

There is no Scripture which states you or anyone bears a Cross of the "reality of division."

Do you have a kind of ... "creative" ... type of faith and knowledge for your life in Christ?

The bad attitudes, wilfull ignorance, and malevolent activities of others are also crosses to bear.

I rest my case.

 

[Jared42]

Why Don't you ask God to reveal His glory to you.... Be careful though, because you will not be able to stand and spout out your vehement blasphemies against Him.

If my words convicted you watch the video below.

Your heart is revealed in this last statement. I have not blasphemed God, because He is my God, and I serve him.

Are you "Pentecostal," or not? Speak with Godly confidence and truth.

 

[Jared42]

The bad attitudes, wilfull ignorance, and malevolent activities of others are also crosses to bear.

I rest my case.

Other people's bad attitudes, willful ignorance, and malevolent activities are not your concern, if you have spiritual armor. Get some

 

[Jared42]

Why Don't you ask God to reveal His glory to you.... Be careful though, because you will not be able to stand and spout out your vehement blasphemies against Him.

If my words convicted you watch the video below.

Charles Lawson merely speaks a loud sales pitch. He violates Prov. 10:19.

 

[David H.]

Your heart is revealed in this last statement. I have not blasphemed God, because He is my God, and I serve him.

Are you "Pentecostal," or not? Speak with Godly confidence and truth.

You attack the church of God, the Body of Christ like the adversary, it is your heart that is revealed. I am a Christian nothing more, nothing less. Without Christ Jesus I am nothing. But this is not about me this is about you, this is your post, Your query that others have answered and you have turned into an attack against them. It is you that brings division, and your kind. Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (2 Timothy 3:7)

Charles Lawson merely speaks a loud sales pitch. He violates Prov. 10:19.

Charles Lawson shared his testimony, we as Christians are called to share our testimony. (Revelation 10:11)

why don't you share yours?

 

[Jared42]

You attack the church of God, the Body of Christ like the adversary, it is your heart that is revealed. I am a Christian nothing more, nothing less. Without Christ Jesus I am nothing. But this is not about me this is about you, this is your post, Your query that others have answered and you have turned into an attack against them. It is you that brings division, and your kind. Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. (2 Timothy 3:7)



Charles Lawson shared his testimony, we as Christians are called to share our testimony. (Revelation 10:11)

why don't you share yours?

Charles Lawson yells at his listeners, and demands they agree with him. Doing so is not a mark of Christ's ministers.

You are unable to quote anything I have misspoken about matters of faith, or people who claim to be Believers. Learn to speak with integrity.

You claim to have seen or experienced the Glory of God, yet you give no account of it, no testimony of it, and use the claim for no particular purpose unto God.

 

[David H.]

Charles Lawson yells at his listeners, and demands they agree with him. Doing so is not a mark of Christ's ministers.

You are unable to quote anything I have misspoken about matters of faith, or people who claim to be Believers. Learn to speak with integrity.

For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. (1 Corinthians 1:18)

You Have over and over again maligned people who have responded to your question quite rudely. The answers given here are quite sound from diverse viewpoints yet you continually and rudely berate them. This is unchristian behavior, a heart that is not searching for the truth But one that only wishes to bring division and Hatred. Here is what Scripture says of this.

If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. (1 Timothy 6:3-5)

All You care about is to bring strife to this site.

 

[Robert Gwin]

Within Christendom.

Every Theological tenet, every Doctrine, every context, every thematic principle, every intent of God through any given writer is under discussion, debate, and divergent assessment. There is no standard model, even within single denominations. Everybody looks to fabricate their own understanding. Commonality of belief does clump together, but actual unity rarely comes forward.

The 3000 years of Scriptural authorship and the First Church epoch contained significant unity, notwithstanding the actual heresies of tares, Gnosticism, remnant Judaism, Nicolaitanism, and Paganism.

Today, there is neither drive nor effect for unity in Doctrine or Theology, in Practice or Worship, in historic narrative or textual verity. How can this be, given the incredible power and authority of God's written Word, revealed by the promise of The Holy Spirit to those who read and study it?

Do not waste our time placing blame or accusation. Do not speak to some other issue. Do not give dismissive chit chat. Do not wax long with academic obfuscation. Do not give preachy sounding church talk babble. Do not repeat or revise this question to allow a soap box answer. Just identify how such ongoing disagreement can be stopped.

man and satan is the reason. Men like satan desire the worship that belongs to Jehovah, so they branch off and try to get followers after themselves.