The Beast Revelation

[Luther7]

After nuclear holocaust, all 4 corners of the supercontinent will be burned.

WHOA. You mentioned HOLOCAUST without it referring to the jews. Naughty naughty!

 

[ewq1938]

I believe everything in the Revelation has an Old Testament basis. The passage in Revelation 20 has to do with the worship of the image of the beast, and of the beast.

"Now when Solomon had made an end of praying, the fire came down from heaven, and consumed the burnt offering and the sacrifices; and the glory of the LORD filled the house. And the priests could not enter into the house of the LORD, because the glory of the LORD had filled the LORD’S house." (2 Chronicles 7:1-2).

"And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled." (Revelation 15:8)

"And when all the children of Israel saw how the fire came down, and the glory of the LORD upon the house, they bowed themselves with their faces to the ground upon the pavement, and worshipped, and praised the LORD, saying, For he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever." (2 Chronicles 7:1-3).

In Revelation 13:15 the image of the beast is being worshiped. The false prophet causing fire to come down from God out of heaven is meant to cause all to worship the beast and his image.

The fire coming down is to do with worship IMO, not with military weapons. I've wondered about a "3rd temple" in Jerusalem possibly being the image of the beast, if such a thing is ever built - but I do not believe in speculating and then believing my own speculation.​

The fire causes fear, which inspires worship.

 

[William Barton]

Oh, so Revelation 13:13 is about missiles now? That sounds like pure speculation—especially after admitting you don’t actually know what the Lord meant. Not surprising.

"Fire come down from heaven" (Revelation 13:13) is reminiscent of 2Kings 1:10: "...let fire come down from heaven." Could be asteroids, it's hard to say without more information.

 

[Davy]

"Fire come down from heaven" (a revelation 13:13) is reminiscent of 2Kings 1:10: "...let fire come down from heaven." Could be asteroids, it's hard to say without more information.

Lightning. The subject there is miracles that "another beast" will do on earth in the sight of men.

 

[Luther7]

"Fire come down from heaven" (a revelation 13:13) is reminiscent of 2Kings 1:10: "...let fire come down from heaven." Could be asteroids, it's hard to say without more information.

I do not believe Satan can call literal fire from heaven, as only God can for the purpose of judgment. It could be lasers from satellites. Keep in mind that Satan's helpers throughout history have been preparing an end time throne for their messiah. Having control of space lasers is an aspect of his ability to " rule as God", I do believe.

 

[William Barton]

After nuclear holocaust, all 4 corners of the supercontinent will be burned.

Rev 7:1, "four corners of the γη" = "land." There was no concept of planet earth in Biblical times.

Lightning. The subject there is miracles that "another beast" will do on earth in the sight of men.

Rev 13:13, similar to 2Kings 2:10. I do not know the nature of the fire.

 

[MonoBiblical]

Rev 7:1, "four corners of the γη" = "land." There was no concept of planet earth in Biblical times.

No globe, and 4 sides of land.

Rev 13:13, similar to 2Kings 2:10. I do not know the nature of the fire.

What do you know?

 

[ewq1938]

I do not believe Satan can call literal fire from heaven, as only God can for the purpose of judgment.

Rev 13 says the FP can work miracles so God allows him to do things like make fire come from heaven.

Rev 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
Rev 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.

 

[William Barton]

No globe, and 4 sides of land.

What do you know? [about fire]

I know that fire (and lighting) both burn, as another poster suggested.
I suppose it could be missiles.

 

[William Barton]

I understand the concept of plate tectonics (Greek τεκτονικος), "large-scale movement of Earth's lithosphere."

No globe, and 4 sides of land.
What do you know?

I understand plate tectonics, and that this is an issue in the Middle East, since it can cause earthquakes.

 

[Davy]

Christian films often portray that all those who have not received the mark of the beast will be killed, this is a symbolic truth. The circumstances are true, but they missed the real meaning due to some failed interpretations. All those who have not taken the mark are killed, this part is true, but those who have not taken the mark are Hamas. The mark was given during the elections for the president of the Palestinian authority, which was boycotted by Hamas. Hamas has never received the mark. Films like to portray all people as subject to the mark. This part is wrong. It only affects those Palestinians who did not take the mark, and not the whole world. It is only Hamas. This makes the mark as what the letter indicates. It was the indelible ink brand given to those who voted in the Palestinian elections.​

WHACKED!

That kind of posting is what I was talking about administrators. Those kind of posters are toying with your website forum.

 

[mailmandan]

 

[grafted branch]

1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.

The mark of the beast can’t be a microchip implanted into a body.

 

[mailmandan]

1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.

The mark of the beast can’t be a microchip implanted into a body.

Why not? It could easily be something in your right hand or forehead (not everyone has a right hand) that needs to be scanned (microchip, barcode tattoo etc..). Just like barcodes on products and microchips in dogs are scanned today.

 

[grafted branch]

Why not? It could easily be something in your right hand or forehead (not everyone has a right hand) that needs to be scanned (microchip, barcode tattoo etc..). Just like barcodes on products and microchips in dogs are scanned today.

Why not? Because 1 Corinthians 6:18 say the only sin against your body is fornication. I would think the mark of the beast would qualify as a sin, whether it’s something done to your body or not. Or would you say the mark of the beast isn’t a sin for a believer, and they can go ahead and get the mark of the beast if they want?

 

[mailmandan]

Why not? Because 1 Corinthians 6:18 say the only sin against your body is fornication. I would think the mark of the beast would qualify as a sin, whether it’s something done to your body or not. Or would you say the mark of the beast isn’t a sin for a believer, and they can go ahead and get the mark of the beast if they want?

I would never say it was okay to get the mark of the beast (which is a grevious sin) which results in pledging allegiance to the anti-Christ and the Bible makes it clear what happens to those people.

 

[grafted branch]

I would never say it was okay to get the mark of the beast (which is a grevious sin) which results in pledging allegiance to the anti-Christ and the Bible makes it clear what happens to those people.

Ok, so why does 1 Corinthians 6:18 say sexual immorality is the only sin against the body, if the mark of the beast is a sin and it’s something a person does to their body?

 

[Luther7]

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That's just plain stupid.

 

[ewq1938]

1 Corinthians 6:18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body.

The mark of the beast can’t be a microchip implanted into a body.

Sure it can. The verse has nothing to do with the mark.

 

[mailmandan]

Sure it can. The verse has nothing to do with the mark.

Amen to that.