The Best Bible Passage To Refute Once Saved Always Saved and Faith Alone

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James White.....what a blowhard

Not a fan
Watched a good debate on YouTube.
White and surgis (?) A Catholic.
He was very good. Surgis I mean.
It was on predestination but touched on other doctrine too.
 
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Watched a good debate on YouTube.
White and surgis (?) A Catholic.
He was very good. Surgis I mean.
It was on predestination but touched on other doctrine too.

Regardless of how Surginis did - James White declared victory.

I wish Surginis was a not a geocentrist. Actually, i would be satisfied if he stopped his catholic persecution complex - he is almost as bad as BOL....
 

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Regardless of how Surginis did - James White declared victory.

I wish Surginis was a not a geocentrist. Actually, i would be satisfied if he stopped his catholic persecution complex - he is almost as bad as BOL....


not sure but I gather you mean Sungenis who is a true Catholic creationist - via google see his [Galileo was wrong] - twinc
 

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Was Adam free to eat the fruit?


this is what results when scriptures, my posts etc are read in a slipshod manner = Adam certainly had freewill before the fall when it was fractured, fragmented, fallen and warped - btw we are not created in the image and likeness of God but we were - to say or think we are is faulty thinking but great ego inflation and God deflation - twinc
 

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I think not!

think again because you do even think but react - we never ever chose or choose anything - we did not choose where,when or who we were born to/male or female /skin colour/religion/country/relatives/friends/health/brains etc and yet we blatantly aver that we have choice/freewill etc - think again seriously - twinc
 

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think again because you do even think but react - we never ever chose or choose anything - we did not choose where,when or who we were born to/male or female /skin colour/religion/country/relatives/friends/health/brains etc and yet we blatantly aver that we have choice/freewill etc - think again seriously - twinc
Twinc, you will probably agree that ultimately we only have two choices: our own way or God's Way. The details don't matter so much so long as we really have chosen and continue to choose the latter instead of the former.
 

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this is what results when scriptures, my posts etc are read in a slipshod manner = Adam certainly had freewill before the fall when it was fractured, fragmented, fallen and warped - btw we are not created in the image and likeness of God but we were - to say or think we are is faulty thinking but great ego inflation and God deflation - twinc
We ARE created in the image of God.
You need to stop reading the bible and study some theology.
In whose image are we made?
HOW are we made in God's image?

Try.
 

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this is what results when scriptures, my posts etc are read in a slipshod manner = Adam certainly had freewill before the fall when it was fractured, fragmented, fallen and warped - btw we are not created in the image and likeness of God but we were - to say or think we are is faulty thinking but great ego inflation and God deflation - twinc
Are you saying I read in a slipshod manner just because I don't agree with you?
Oh my.

So if Adam had free will, why would WE not have free will?
You sound very calvinistic. Are you?
 
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Are you saying I read in a slipshod manner just because I don't agree with you?
Oh my.

So if Adam had free will, why would WE not have free will?
You sound very calvinistic. Are you?
Are you saying I read in a slipshod manner just because I don't agree with you?
Oh my.

So if Adam had free will, why would WE not have free will?
You sound very calvinistic. Are you?


oh my ! you missed it I said you read scripture in a slipshod manner - my posts are mostly trying to promote a right interpretation of scriptures etc - twinc
 

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We ARE created in the image of God.
You need to stop reading the bible and study some theology.
In whose image are we made?
HOW are we made in God's image?

Try.


how I see it Christ would say to you and the theologians who cannot even agree amongst themselves "you do err -not knowing the scriptures" - see Genesis 5:3 - twinc