The Coming FALSE MESSIAH

[quietthinker]

It does not say say "in the midst of the week he shall be cut off" in Daniel 9:27.

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

couple it with vs 26

 

[CrowCross]

3.5 years of Jesus' personal ministry plus 3.5 years of ministry exclusively to the Jews....after that to the Gentiles.
In the midst of that week (7 years) Jesus was crucified (cut off)
'in the midst of the week he shall be cut off'. Dan. 9.27

It's not making sense.

"3.5 years of Jesus' personal ministry plus 3.5 years of ministry exclusively to the Jews....after that to the Gentiles."
I tried to see a week in this...but couldn't. It's not clear what you mean.
When did it start and when did it end?

 

[CrowCross]

Let’s go back to Daniel 9:27 (a book of prophecy regarding the end times).

Daniel 9:27 (KJV) And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make [it] desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.

Daniel 9:27 describes a future period where a powerful figure (the “he“ in the verse above) establishes a covenant with many people for one final seven-year period (This week, I believe, has been shortened for the sake of the Elect). To continue, halfway through this week, this figure (which will be Satan the AC) will stop the traditional sacrifices and pollute the holy place with "abominations," leaving it desolate until the final judgment when God's wrath is poured out at the end (the 7th trump).

This prophecy can be found in Matthew 24 and Mark 13 regarding the "abomination of desolation" standing in the holy place, as well as Paul's description in 2 Thessalonians 2 of a man who claims to be God.

By the way, it is the "little horn" (Satan) who emerges in the end times to strengthen a one-world order that will worship the first beast that’s mentioned in Revelation 13.

During the middle of this final “week,” Satan (the second beast mentioned in Revelation 13) appears. He will pretend to be Jesus, the Lamb of God, to deceive the world. He will end the "daily sacrifice" not necessarily through physical force, but by claiming to be God and using supernatural signs and wonders to divert worship away from the true Christ.
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Mark 13:14 (KJV) But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains:

2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 (KJV) 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for [that day shall not come], except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

I don't disagree. The only pushback I might have would be the shortening of the week.

There appears to be some people who place Jesus into Dan 9:27 like @quietthinker has done.

 

[David in NJ]

PART 1
Those brethren serious about understanding the coming events for the end of this world prior to Christ's return on the last day of this world, bare with me on this, because I feel led by The Holy Spirit to give this study about the coming false one. There are so many misleading Bible interpretations on this subject that many brethren simply don't have a chance to understand what the coming false-Messiah/Antichrist is about, and who he actually is as written in God's Word. And our Heavenly Father and His Son did... reveal the identity of that coming false-Messiah at the end of this world in His Word. And it ain't... a pope. And if you think the attributes of that coming false-Messiah is that of some flesh king like those of past history written of in God's Word, then your understanding is way, way... off base from Bible Scripture.

Certain Biblical Truths must first be understood in prep for this study:

1. One must understand God's Word about the 2 separate dimensions of existence written about, i.e., this earthly one we live in, and the heavenly one where God and the angels dwell, which includes even Satan and the dead. (Per Rev.12:7 forward, Satan and his angels are kicked out of the heavenly dimension, not literally up from inside the earth. The idea of the bottomless pit is an expression for Satan's place of separation in the heavenly dimension away from God and His).

2. The abode of hell (or hades per the Greek), is a holding place for the wicked dead, and is in... the heavenly dimension, not inside the earth. The whole universe is part of the 'earthly' dimension, and that of course includes this earth and all planets, stars, galaxies, etc.

3. Those in the heavenly with the "image of the heavenly" CAN... manifest upon this earth, and live upon this earth, without the need of a flesh body. (Gen.18 & 19. Lord Jesus appeared to Abraham before... He was born through woman's womb. And Jesus ate the food that Abraham prepared for Him and the other two men that appeared with Jesus at Abraham's tent door.)

4. That the future resurrection is not a raising of our decayed flesh body from the casket. Only Lord Jesus' flesh body was raised from the dead and then "quickened" by The Spirit to a heavenly type body, with which 1 Peter 3 says He went to the "spirits in prison" and preached The Gospel to them.

5. We ALL... (the wicked included), have Apostle Paul's "spiritual body" of 1 Corinthians 15 already dwelling inside our flesh body today. Paul declared this in 2 Corinthians 5 that if our earthly house (flesh) were dissolved, we have another body not made with hands, but eternal in the heavens from God. One needs to get used to understanding this, because it is about God's Word regarding the existence of the 2 separate dimensions of 'flesh' and 'Spirit'. (John 3:6).

6. Per Hebrews 4:12, God created us with 3 parts to our being. We have a flesh body, and a spirit body, and a soul. Our spirit body is a heavenly image body type for the heavenly dimension. Our soul is our person, the part that makes up 'you'. The soul is attached to the spirit body. Per Ecclesiastes 12:5-7 at flesh death, an invisible "silver cord" connecting our flesh body with our spirit & soul is severed, and then our flesh goes back to the earthly elements where it came from, but our spirit with soul goes back to God in the heavenly dimension. This is why Apostle Peter said in 1 Peter 4:5-6 that The Gospel was preached also to the dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

7. If you do not understand the above Bible Truths written in God's Word, and instead you have surrounded your life with a FLESHY understanding of this present world, then you are way... behind in understanding the events soon to come upon this earth, supernatural events, events that Christ and His warned us about written in His Word.

8. Very few Churches today are warning brethren about these coming supernatural events that Jesus and His Apostles declared in His Word about the end. Most Churches today are instead preaching many messages of man's philosophy and Socialism, when they should be warning their congregations about the coming supernatural events upon this earth in our near future, and that according to God's written Word. And it is written.

(Continued...)

Correction:
It is true that Satan is not in the bottomless pit, BUT other fallen angels are = Jude 1:5-7 & 2 Peter 2:4-9

Although you are fully aware of this, I want to remind you that after Jesusa had delivered His people out of the land of Egypt, He destroyed those who did not believe. 6And the angels who did not stay within their own domain but abandoned their proper dwelling—these He has kept in eternal chains under darkness, bound for judgment on that great day. 7In like manner, Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, who indulged in sexual immorality and pursued strange flesh, are on display as an example of those who sustain the punishment of eternal fire.

For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them deep into hell,a placing them in chains of darkness to be held for judgment; 5if He did not spare the ancient world when He brought the flood on its ungodly people, but preserved Noah, a preacher of righteousness, among the eight; 6if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction,b reducing them to ashes as an example of what is coming on the ungodly;c 7and if He rescued Lot, a righteous man distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8(for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9if all this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment.

 

[David in NJ]

4. That the future resurrection is not a raising of our decayed flesh body from the casket. Only Lord Jesus' flesh body was raised from the dead and then "quickened" by The Spirit to a heavenly type body, with which 1 Peter 3 says He went to the "spirits in prison" and preached The Gospel to them.

CORRECTION #2 = and this is BIG

SURELY as GOD is TRUTH and cannot lie, GOD will raise the dead corruptible bodies/bones from the graves

Isaiah 26:19
Your dead shall live;
Together with my dead body they shall arise.
Awake and sing, you who dwell in dust;
For your dew is like the dew of herbs,
And the earth shall cast out the dead.

1 Corinthians 15

Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. 14And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. 15Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up—if in fact the dead do not rise. 16For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. 17And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! 18Then also those who have [c]fallen asleep in Christ have perished. 19If in this life only we have hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable

 

[David in NJ]

7. If you do not understand the above Bible Truths written in God's Word, and instead you have surrounded your life with a FLESHY understanding of this present world, then you are way... behind in understanding the events soon to come upon this earth, supernatural events, events that Christ and His warned us about written in His Word.

Here is the BIG #7 = 1 Thess 4:13-18

But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.
BIG #7 HERE = For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.

 

[amigo de christo]

Here is the BIG #7 = 1 Thess 4:13-18

But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.
BIG #7 HERE = For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.

i see lots of discussion on things written in the letters to the thessalonians .
And i also notice the title of this thread is the coming false messiah .
So allow me a few words my friend .
What two key things are seen . number one paul warned them all of a strong delusion
that would come upon those who had rejected the truth and that they would b eleive a lie .
And would be surely damned .
Now we also s ee in the first lettter paul warns the coming of JESUS knows no man , we know its as a theif
For when they shall SAY PEACE N SAFETY , alas their damnation cometh upon them and they will not escape .
SO what do we see . THE strong d elusion is t ied to a LIE that all of the decieved would believe was T RUE
and , AND that it must be connected to peace n safety .
NOW YOU GO and YOU BEHOLD what on ea rth has been occuring in the false reli goins as well as christendom .
A LIE has been sold that they all SERVE THE SAME GOD
and they must now come together and find common ground for to attain PEACE N SAFETY .
THE DELUSION is not coming david , ITS HERE . ECUMEINCAL INCLUSVIVE INTERFAITH and its peace plan .
ALL OF IT was of satan , and all who it was sold by an ecumeincal harlot and her inclusive love .
ITS HERE david . ITS HERE and it grows .

 

[amigo de christo]

Here is the BIG #7 = 1 Thess 4:13-18

But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope.
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus.

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.
BIG #7 HERE = For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.

and what has this great and mighty convenant of peace done .
exactly what GOD had warned even the jews NOT TO DO with the peoples of the land .
YE SHALL MAKE NO COVENANT with the peoples of the land or t heir gods . IT WILL BE A SNARE UNTO YOU .
And that is exactly what this great and mighty covenant of intefaeith peace has done
COME YE ONE and come ye all , we all serve the same God , and it has made VOID the gospel of YE must absolutey
Beleive on JESUS . only an anti christ would ever have sold such a covenant for peace .
ONLY the devil would have done this thing david . And all of it sold by a whores cup of fornication
that she sold as love , claimed was the love of GOd and sold as though it were the peace of GOD .
SOMEONE LIES david . Someone has b een a lying to this people .
AND IT DARN SURE AINT BEEN GOD . CAUSE GOD cannot LIE . HIS peace would not deny the gospel of Christ ,
And his covenant would not have us to JOIN with false religoins under a lie .
The only one that would have sold this to the false religoins and to christendom and the world
IS SATAN . And they think its of GOD . we got a massive delusion going on my friend .