The Crucified Flesh

[Jim B]

MATTHEW 19:28 KJV
"And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the REGENERATION when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel."

Okay, how is that supposed to contribute to the discussion?

 

[marks]

I have no idea what you're trying to say. You quoted these words from one of my posts -- Others will consider you -- and this is your reply: "To be clear, you do not speak for me". What are you trying to say?
There's been a lot of good discussion on this thread, and I'd prefer you were a part of that.

You come across as self-righteous and judgmental, i.e., holier than thou. Others will consider you in that light and think that you are just being pompous and critical. All you will do is alienate them.

You wrote that "others" will consider you in that light . . . And I'm making clear, though I'm one of the "others", I don't consider @Lizbeth pompous and critical, and she is not alienating me.

You are helping to run this thread into the ground. I wish you'd stop.

Much love!

 

[Lizbeth]

This was in response to a post by Lizbeth, is only a part of what I wrote and is clearly taken out of context THAT EDITING IS A CLEAR DISTORTION, ARROGANT, POMPOUS & SURELY NOT OF LOVE TO THOSE OF THE HOUSEHOLD OF FAITH. Shows who YOU are: Uncrucified & in the flesh.

Matthew 7:1-3, “Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. For the judgment you give will be the judgment you get, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck in your neighbor’s eye but do not notice the log in your own eye?" Matthew 7:1-3

All your loving, non-judgmental, non-critical comments have been duly noted.

 

[Jim B]

All your loving, non-judgmental, non-critical comments have been duly noted.

Thanks. Those words are from a post by Keturah. They didn't originate with me.

Here is that post...

Oh my goodness;

** Jim B said this....Others will consider you in that light and think that you are just being pompous and critical.


THIS IS ARROGANT, POMPOUS & SURELY IS NOT OF LOVE TO THOSE OF THE HOUSEHOLD OF FAITH........what of the other command of Jesus to love the brethren and by THIS SHALL THEY KNOW YOU ARE MY DISCIPLES! Shows who YOU are. Uncrucified & in the flesh.

Do as I have done & put this ACCUSER on ignore. His whited sepulchre is FULL of those he himself abuses yet accuses others of doing !

EYES on those who amen/like this behaviour!! I SEE YOU.

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Perhaps you want to direct your comments appropriately...

 

[Keturah]

This is nothing but justifying abuse!

Do you read your own words? The Lord Jesus Christ will judge "the quick and the dead". I have news for you: YOU are not Jesus Christ!!!

You can quote out-of-context Scripture to justify your abuse, but Jesus (repeating the OT command) said to LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. Neither you nor "amigo" do that! You set yourselves up as judges of others, constantly condemning them (and thereby glorifying yourselves). You are infected with the sins of pride and self-righteousness, proclaiming yourselves as superior to everyone else. You will have to face the Lord and justify your condemnation of those whom He has chosen and loves!

You glorify yourselves, exalting yourself to be the judges of "the quick and the dead", condemning everyone without mercy or love.

This is " WHOLE" of the quote then.......changed NOTHING!

 

[Keturah]

This was in response to a post by Lizbeth, is only a part of what I wrote and is clearly taken out of context THAT EDITING IS A CLEAR DISTORTION, ARROGANT, POMPOUS & SURELY NOT OF LOVE TO THOSE OF THE HOUSEHOLD OF FAITH. Shows who YOU are: Uncrucified & in the flesh.

Matthew 7:1-3, “Do not judge, so that you may not be judged. For the judgment you give will be the judgment you get, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Why do you see the speck in your neighbor’s eye but do not notice the log in your own eye?" Matthew 7:1-3

Blah, blah ,blah & again blah.
Nobody's listening to anything you say except the BLIND & DEAF to the  TRUTH of God's word.......Go back to ignore.

 

[Keturah]

I'm sorry @marks but I'm withdrawing from a thread that COULD have been encouraging & faith building but has been tarnished by the children of darkness. They & their father desires to cover the TRUTH in darkness & snuff out the light !

THEIR DAY IS COMING !

 

[marks]

I'm sorry @marks but I'm withdrawing from a thread that COULD have been encouraging & faith building but has been tarnished by the children of darkness. They & their father desire to cover the TRUTH in darkness & snuff out the light !

THEIR DAY IS COMING !

These things make me heartsick!

Much love!

 

[ChristisGod]

God has already arrived! His name is Jesus Christ. He said that He will ask the Father to send us the Holy Spirit, who will guide us into all truth.

No that promise was not to you or me it was to His 12 disciples minus judas and Paul who wrote half of the books in the NT- all truth ie scripture.

 

[ChristisGod]

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How should a Christian respond to bullying?

ANSWER

Although we do not find the word bullying in the Bible, we do find the word brutish, a synonym of the brutal thuggery associated with thieves, assassins, and savage beasts (Psalm 49:10; Proverbs 12:1; Isaiah 19:11). The Hebrew and Greek words translated “brute” or “brutish” mean “stupid, foolish, and irrational, as cattle.” We can derive from this that those who bully are acting as cattle or other beasts incapable of rational thought. It is, unfortunately, not uncommon to see this type of abhorrent behavior in fallen man—even in the church—in both males and females throughout all life stages.

The Bible does not speak specifically about bullies or bullying, but there are many biblical principles that apply to the issue. First, it is important to understand what bullying is. A simple definition would be "using superior strength or power to intimidate people." Bullies are those who prey on people they perceive as weaker and threaten them with harm, or actually harm them, in order to get their own way. Obviously, bullying is not godly. Christians are called to love others and to look out for those who are weaker, not to intimidate or manipulate people (James 1:27; 1 John 3:17–18; Galatians 6:9–10). It being evident that Christians should not be bullies, how should Christians respond to bullying?

Generally, there are two situations in which a Christian may need to respond to bullying: when he is the victim of bullying and when he is a witness to bullying. When being bullied, a right response might be turning the other cheek, or it might be self-defense. When Jesus spoke of "turning the other cheek" in Matthew 5:38–42, He taught us to refrain from retaliating to personal slights. The idea is not to return an insult with an insult. When someone verbally abuses us, we do not return his affront with insults of our own. When someone tries to assert his position of power to intimidate us or force us into a certain behavior, we can resist his manipulation without being manipulative in return. In short, bullying a bully is not biblical and, quite frankly, not useful. It is, however, advisable to report the bully to proper authorities. It is not wrong for a child in school to alert his teacher about bullies. It is not wrong for a person to report a con artist to the police. Such actions may help prevent the bully from harming others. Even when we do not retaliate on a personal level, we can still utilize social systems of justice.

In other cases, particularly if the bullying is physical, self-defense may be appropriate. The Bible does not advocate total pacifism. God’s instructions to Israel in Exodus 22 and Jesus’ instruction to His disciples to get a sword in Luke 22 are informative. Christians are to be loving and forgiving, but not permissive of evil.

When a Christian observes bullying, it may be appropriate to step in and help prevent the attack against the victim. Each situation will be different, and many times stepping in will add to the problem, but often it takes just one person to stand up on behalf of a weaker party in order to stop the bullying and prevent it in the future. Certainly, a Christian could talk with a victim of bullying after the incident and help the victim with any needs, including assistance in reporting the incident.

God’s wisdom is necessary in all instances of confronting bullying. Those who follow Christ have the Holy Spirit living within them. He helps us to understand God’s Word and can guide us and equip us to obey God in whatever situation we find ourselves.

We also need to consider our thoughts and attitudes toward bullies. It is easy to demonize bullies and think of them as hateful people. However, this is not a godly attitude. Every human being is born a sinner, and we all need salvation in Jesus (Romans 3:23; 6:23). At the very least, we should pray that the bully would have a change of heart and know God’s salvation (1 Timothy 2:1–4). Many times, though, bullies act the way they do out of their own hurt. Perhaps they were bullied in the past. Perhaps they feel insecure, and the only way they can feel acceptable to themselves is by belittling others. We can empathize with their hurt and extend God’s compassion, love, and grace to them while also maintaining solid boundaries to address their wrong behavior. Whether bullying is driven by past hurt or simply the sin nature, God is the one who can bring healing, restoration, and change. It is always appropriate to pray for both bullies and their victims. Similarly, when we are the victim of bullying, we can go to God with our hurt and seek His reassurance and healing.

Romans 12:17–21 says, "Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: 'It is mine to avenge; I will repay,' says the Lord. On the contrary: 'If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.' Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good."

God has shown us incredible mercy. We should show this to others in the way we behave—by not bullying, by standing up to defend the weak, by being willing to forgive, by preventing bullying as best we can through appropriate social channels, and by praying for those who bully and who are bullied. The love and grace of God are enough to heal every wound.

Where did you copy and paste this from ?

 

[ChristisGod]

You wrote that "others" will consider you in that light . . . And I'm making clear, though I'm one of the "others", I don't consider @Lizbeth pompous and critical, and she is not alienating me.

You are helping to run this thread into the ground. I wish you'd stop.

Much love!

Ditto