The Dangerous Lie That You Don’t Need to Repent

[Eternally Grateful]

Could that be the reason for laying it on so thick? All the personal judgment stuff? Drive us off the thread because we disagree?

Sometimes I wonder!

Much love!

Well, he kept saying i am missing the point over and over

so it is obvious there is nothing more to say

 

[Eternally Grateful]

And yet, when He returns He will JUDGE!

2 Thessalonians 1:7-9
When the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,
In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and them that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

There are many claiming to be Christians that got born again, but have fallen away no longer obeying the Gospel

Yes

he will judge the lost. Those he did not save, because they refused to believe

the rest he said shall not come to judgment

John 5: 24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

John 5: 24 “Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears My word and believes in Him who sent Me has everlasting life, and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life.

And yet there is going to be the White Throne judgement where the Lord judges His people

John 5: 24 just means we aren't going to be judged unto condemnation which is only applicable unto those that abide IN Christ as some fall away after getting born again and end up being lost and go to hell.

He will reward or punish each one accordingly (Psalm 28:4; 62:12; Romans 2:6; Revelation 2:23; 18:6; 22:12).

 

[marks]

You have just as much right to be here as anybody else.

Where did I see you should go away??? View attachment 63746

I don't recall telling anybody they "should" go away.

It makes me wonder sometimes when people post in such rude and presumptuous ways. Just what exactly does one think they will accomplish when they post that way?

Much love!

 

[Dan Clarkston]

It makes me wonder sometimes when people post in such rude and presumptuous ways. Just what exactly does one think they will accomplish when they post that way?

Would you feel better if I said "You DON'T have just as much right to be here as anybody else."?

That way you can play the victim

I apologize if I was not being rude enough if you were preferring rudeness.

 

[marks]

Would you feel better if I said "You DON'T have just as much right to be here as anybody else."? View attachment 63751

That way you can play the victim View attachment 63752

I apologize if I was not being rude enough if you were preferring rudeness.

Like Jesus said, Wisdom is justified by her children. So very true!

Much love!

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Like Jesus said, Wisdom is justified by her children. So very true!

Alrighty then, I'll try to be mo rude next time if this is what hakes you happy!

 

[marks]

Alrighty then, I'll try to be mo rude next time if this is what hakes you happy! View attachment 63754

Do you really think you need to make an effort?

What is it you think you are accomplishing here? You put your heart on display with your words, you know. When you post your opinions and such about others, the one you actually reveal is yourself.

Much love!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

And yet there is going to be the White Throne judgement where the Lord judges His people

his people will not be there

death and hades is there not those living in christ

John 5: 24 just means we aren't going to be judged unto condemnation which is only applicable unto those that abide IN Christ as some fall away after getting born again and end up being lost and go to hell.

He will reward or punish each one accordingly (Psalm 28:4; 62:12; Romans 2:6; Revelation 2:23; 18:6; 22:12).

Way to twist jesus words

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Do you really think you need to make an effort?

I can try hard if you want me too!

his people will not be there

There will be judgement of God's people where the Lord rewards each of those that belongs to Him accordingly.

Yeah I think the White Throne judgement is for the unsaved, but there is another judgement for God's people.

Way to twist jesus words

God is not mocked, we shall reap what we sow (Gal 6:7,8)

Jesus told Paul what to write when Paul wrote this.... this is also the words of Jesus

Those claiming we do not reap what we sow are mocking God according to Gal 6:7,8

 

[marks]

I can try hard if you want me too!

Is it for self affirmation? Do you feel better about yourself afterward? Trying to be more fleshy isn't the Christian Way.

Much love!

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Is it for self affirmation? Do you feel better about yourself afterward? Trying to be more fleshy isn't the Christian Way.

I don't get anything out of it.

I thought you were wanting me to be more rude because you enjoy that sort of thing... makes you feel special or something

 

[marks]

I don't get anything out of it.

I thought you were wanting me to be more rude because you enjoy that sort of thing... makes you feel special or something View attachment 63760

Projection? Be real. You do this for yourself. Honesty is very important, especially with one's self.

Much love!

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Projection? Be real. You do this for yourself. Honesty is very important, especially with one's self.

Whatever senile thoughts and imaginations that make you feel better about yourself being the victim

 

[marks]

Whatever senile thoughts and imaginations that make you feel better about yourself being the victim

Not everyone is able to be honest with themself. And not everyone wants to be honest with themself, and prefer to deflect all their issues onto others. But there is no relief to be found that way.

If only you had a better understanding of these things! I hope one day you will.

Much love!

 

[Dan Clarkston]

and prefer to deflect all their issues onto others

There goes that paranoid victim mentality thing again.

I guess everyone really is out to get you eh?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

There will be judgement of God's people where the Lord rewards each of those that belongs to Him accordingly.

Yeah I think the White Throne judgement is for the unsaved, but there is another judgement for God's people.

Yes. It is called the BEMA seat. where they will receive Gold Silver Precious stone, Wood Hay and Straw and even if after all their works being tried byu fire. they have nothing left. It is clear. they will STILL be saved, even as through fire.

No non believer will be there. again, death and hades is delivered to God. not risen by him

God is not mocked, we shall reap what we sow (Gal 6:7,8)

Jesus told Paul what to write when Paul wrote this.... this is also the words of Jesus

Those claiming we do not reap what we sow are mocking God according to Gal 6:7,8

who said we do not reap what we sow?

if salvation is the thing we are trying to reap. we will be lost. forever.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

people can not stand those who put faith in Christ as the means of their salvation. and understand they can not buy their ticket to heaven.

that's why the pharisees crucified Christ.

 

[bdavidc]

I see it's not just me that you treat that way.

Remember: This is not opinion, this is Bible:

2 Corinthians 5:18-20 KJV
18) And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;
19) To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
20) Now then we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God did beseech you by us: we pray you in Christ's stead, be ye reconciled to God.

Romans 5:10 KJV
For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

Romans 5:10-11 LITV
10) For if while being enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by His life;
11) and not only so, but also glorying in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we now received the reconciliation.

Much love!

You are not teaching the Bible. You are twisting Scripture to fit a lie, and pretending it’s truth. That is exactly what false teachers do. You quote verses about reconciliation, but you rip them from their context and ignore everything else God has said about salvation. You are not rightly dividing the Word of truth, you’re perverting the gospel of Christ (Galatians 1:7).

Let’s deal with your misuse directly.

2 Corinthians 5:20 says, “We pray you in Christ's stead, *be ye reconciled to God.” That is a command, not a declaration that reconciliation already happened for everyone. If the world were already reconciled, there would be no need to plead with them to be reconciled. Your interpretation contradicts the very verse you quote.

Romans 5:10 says, “We were reconciled to God by the death of his Son.” Who is the “we” in context? Believers. Not the ungodly world. Go back and read Romans 5:1: “Being justified by faith, we have peace with God.” Justification comes by faith, and reconciliation is the result of that, not something automatic for all humanity. You're cutting the Word of God to pieces and reshaping it into your own image.

You’re preaching a false peace. You make reconciliation sound like a passive status applied to all without faith, without repentance, without the new birth. But Jesus said plainly: “Except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish” (Luke 13:3). There is no reconciliation apart from repentance and faith in Christ. Period.

You are resisting correction, promoting a doctrine that deceives the lost, and leading others into a ditch. The Holy Spirit does not contradict Himself, and your version of “reconciliation” makes a mockery of the cross.

The Bible does not say the world is saved or reconciled by default. It says, “He that believeth not is condemned already” (John 3:18). That is not a reconciled state. That is judgment. And you will answer to God for every soul you lead to hell with this sugar-coated lie.

Repent, or perish. That’s not a threat. That’s the Word of God.

 

[marks]

not a declaration that reconciliation already happened for everyone.

"Already happened for everyone" This is not Scriptural language, nor have I spoken this way.

Again, the Scriptures state plainly, as I've shown, that God reconciled the world to Himself, and we have to receive that reconciliation. Nothing I've quoted is twisted, and nothing is out of context.

I counsel you to accept the plain sayings of the Bible.

Much love!