The Doctrine of Millennialism is destroy by Personal Symbolizing of Scripture.

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ewq1938

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People die in all different ways but Jesus word condemns and judges


Isn't Jesus killing members of a military army in Rev 19? People aren't just dying like in accidents and from diseases in Rev 19. This is why such an interpretation is rejected, being that it doesn't match anything in the chp at all.
 

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Rev.19:21 is pointing back to those of verse 18, which is about the unbelieving peoples, and the kings of the earth that followed Satan. Isaiah 24 reveals those kings will be locked in Satan's pit prison with him during Christ's "thousand years" reign, and visited after many days (i.e., after the "thousand years").
Isaiah 24: 1-4 I believe refers to the time of the cross, where Jesus dies, and no man is left on earth, that is counted as a believer, until Mary sees Him resurrected.

V5 begins your point about the end of the last days, where God's great triubulationa nd wrath over all the earth leaves few left for His reign on earth.

I agree with your insight of V17-18, 21-22 is for them going into the pit with Satan. And their visitation will be at the judgment when the rest of the dead resurrect, after Christ's reign on earth.

And since the bottomless pit is with hell in it, then it simply means Satan will be locked up there with the rest of the wicked dead.

Perhaps that is when such fallen nations will narrowly look upon him, and be incredulous that was the one that caused their destruction. (Is 14)

V19-20 I believe is the last day of earth when melted by fire of God, at the end of Christ's reign.

And so in Is 24 alone, we have the day of the cross, the day of the Lord's return, the day of the earth's scorching, and the day of the rest of the dead being judged in the Lamb's book of life, or cast into the lake of fire.

Rev.20 specifically shows the nations still existing after Christ's future return, just as Zech.14 does also. What most do not realize is that God's consuming fire on the last day when Jesus returns will burn man's works off this earth, including the flesh body. All souls still alive on earth will put off the flesh on that "last trump". So with Christ's judgment on that day, that must be considered about the nations.
I don't agree the scorched earth is the day of Jesus' second coming. It will be the final gathering of all nations Gog and Magog, and will be after the Lord's reign, and He and His saints have departed to heaven.

And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison.

And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

They will be gathering for war around an empty city and camp of the saints.
 

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Yes Jesus will only come back once physically but my point is that Jesus used the exact same words showing that it isn't a one time event
Exactly true.

The day of the Lord includes His coming first in the flesh, His coming a second time with power as King, and His sending fire down from heaven to destroy Gog and Magog and scorch the earth.
 

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Exactly true.

The day of the Lord includes His coming first in the flesh, His coming a second time with power as King, and His sending fire down from heaven to destroy Gog and Magog and scorch the earth.

Jesus doesn't do that, nor does that happen anywhere near the second coming.
 

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Its not pretrib theory I said that it was moments before the end of our world and yes I agree Jesus only comes back one more time
The same... time God pour's out His cup of wrath is the same... time the "caught up" event happens. The change of all peoples still alive on earth must happen first, for it is in our spiritual body how Jesus will catch us up to Him to go to Jerusalem. In the Revelation 16:17 verse, the angel pours out the 7th Vial into the "air". That is what that is pointing to.
 

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Isaiah 24: 1-4 I believe refers to the time of the cross, where Jesus dies, and no man is left on earth, that is counted as a believer, until Mary sees Him resurrected.

V5 begins your point about the end of the last days, where God's great triubulationa nd wrath over all the earth leaves few left for His reign on earth.

I agree with your insight of V17-18, 21-22 is for them going into the pit with Satan. And their visitation will be at the judgment when the rest of the dead resurrect, after Christ's reign on earth.

And since the bottomless pit is with hell in it, then it simply means Satan will be locked up there with the rest of the wicked dead.

Perhaps that is when such fallen nations will narrowly look upon him, and be incredulous that was the one that caused their destruction. (Is 14)

V19-20 I believe is the last day of earth when melted by fire of God, at the end of Christ's reign.

And so in Is 24 alone, we have the day of the cross, the day of the Lord's return, the day of the earth's scorching, and the day of the rest of the dead being judged in the Lamb's book of life, or cast into the lake of fire.


I don't agree the scorched earth is the day of Jesus' second coming. It will be the final gathering of all nations Gog and Magog, and will be after the Lord's reign, and He and His saints have departed to heaven.

And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison.

And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.


They will be gathering for war around an empty city and camp of the saints.
Apostles Paul and Peter both declared the "day of the Lord" will come "as a thief in the night". Apostle Peter linked with that the event of God's consuming fire burning man's works off this earth. Jesus in Rev.16 said He comes "as a thief", linking the time of His future coming to that "day of the Lord".

So I don't see how anyone could miss that, unless of course they are listening to men's doctrines instead. And there does exist a certain group that believes God's consuming fire doesn't happen until right after the GWT Judgment, even though that idea is nowhere written.
 

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Apostles Paul and Peter both declared the "day of the Lord" will come "as a thief in the night". Apostle Peter linked with that the event of God's consuming fire burning man's works off this earth. Jesus in Rev.16 said He comes "as a thief", linking the time of His future coming to that "day of the Lord".

So I don't see how anyone could miss that, unless of course they are listening to men's doctrines instead. And there does exist a certain group that believes God's consuming fire doesn't happen until right after the GWT Judgment, even though that idea is nowhere written.
There are three confirmed events for the day of the Lord, which is first confirmed by Peter in Acts 2.

The next two events of the day of the Lord is His second coming, and then His fire coming down from heaven.

Paul calls His coming again the day of Christ, which is also the day of the Lord.

Each of those events will be as a thief in the night: The first upon the unwatchful saints, and then upon Gog and Magog.

It's the unexpectedness of His second coming and then of fire, that is meant by a thief in the night.

Many prophecies of Scripture speak of the same thing, being fulfilled at different times in a different way.

The fire from God is before the earth flees, and the final judgemnt of the rest of the dead.
 

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Scripture plainly says and shows what is symbolic, allegory, and parable.

When men choose to 'describe' Scripture as symbol only, is when men change Scripture into fable only.

For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

Peter had to refute those making the power and coming of the Lord Jesus into fable only, and it's the same today.

Any child knows what is symbolic in Scripture, when Scripture speaks symbolically.

There is no describing nor figuring out what is symbolic in Scripture.

Understanding what the symbol means is the only mystery, not whether Scripture is being symbolic or not.

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And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations.

The sword in Scripture is plainly said to be the sharp and quick word of God, Who creates and destroys by His word alone.

And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God; That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.

Not symbol, but authority of God over the winds, seas, and fowls of the air.

Simple.

The only hard thing is men trying to keep making up symbols out of real events revealed by Scripture, in order to teach their own imagination, as though it were Scripture.

Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

By making symbol out of scripture, where no symbol is spoken of, men seek to take away from God His power to do all things by His word, and make His words only more myths of men with some good principles and teaching points.

The main difference between the Bible and the myths of men, is that the events revealed in the Bible are real, and not just descriptive myths of men only.

Symbols can be used as tools in an event, such as a sword out of His mouth, but the event itself is real, such as the fowls eating the flesh of all them gathered at Armageddon to make war with the Lamb.

The Lamb of God is also symbolic, but the man Jesus did die on the cross for our sins.
 

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There are three confirmed events for the day of the Lord, which is first confirmed by Peter in Acts 2.

The next two events of the day of the Lord is His second coming, and then His fire coming down from heaven.

Paul calls His coming again the day of Christ, which is also the day of the Lord.

Each of those events will be as a thief in the night: The first upon the unwatchful saints, and then upon Gog and Magog.

It's the unexpectedness of His second coming and then of fire, that is meant by a thief in the night.

Many prophecies of Scripture speak of the same thing, being fulfilled at different times in a different way.

The fire from God is before the earth flees, and the final judgemnt of the rest of the dead.
All SAME event and SAME timing.

The "day of the Lord" that ENDS this present world was first given by God through His Old Testament prophets. Even in Jeremiah when many interpret the "day of the Lord" phrase to mean when Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon destroyed Jerusalem, God was simply showing how many of the events in Daniel's day are to symbolize the very end of this world, and the 'final' day of this world (i.e., the "day of the Lord").

In 2 Peter 3:10-11, Peter is actually quoting from those OT prophets about that "day of the Lord" event that will END this present world time. And Peter directly associates God's consuming fire burning man's works off this earth with that "day of the Lord". That means NONE of man's works will survive that coming fire on the last day. So it's ignorant to even argue about the devil or his servants still being in power after that fire God will bring upon the earth to end this 'present' world when Jesus returns.

The Gog-Magog nation alignment of Ezekiel 38 is happening NOW. The only nation mentioned there not joined so far is Turkey (old Togarmah). But the Communist Russians certainly are trying to overthrow Turkey's alignment with NATO and the western nations. Turkey is a Moslem nation, so it shouldn't be difficult to understand how it could easily fall into the alignment with the other Islamic nations supported by Communist Russia.

Ezekiel 39 events culminate the end of this present world. Ezekiel 40 thru 47 is Christ's Millennial reign, with His Millennial temple.

The Rev.20 mention of Gog-Magog has NO mention of a specific nation alignment. Thus by that it is only being used symbolically for those unsaved nations after Christ's "thousand years" that Satan is allowed to deceive in coming up against the "camp of the saints" and beloved city.

It is easy to 'know'... that the mention of Gog-Magog in Rev.20 is NOT about the armies of Satan's host coming up against Jerusalem at the battle of Armageddon. The event of Armageddon is for this 'PRESENT' world time. And Armageddon happens on the "day of the Lord", i.e., the last day of this present world, the 7th Vial per Rev.16.

The Gog-Magog peoples in Rev.20 represents those whom Satan deceives into coming up against the "camp of the saints" and the "beloved city", and is for AFTER Christ's future "thousand years" reign as written. The Armageddon/Ezek.38 nations come against DECEIVED JEWS IN JERUSALEM, not Christian saints.

Thus the "camp of the saints" and "beloved city" marker in Rev.20 reveals...

1. Christ's future "thousand years" reign WITH His elect saints declared in that Rev.20 will be a REAL EVENT.

2. The "beloved city", pointing to future Jerusalem, and as the "camp of the saints" points directly to Christ's Church in power there, something that has never happened during this present world, nor is it prophesied to happen for this present world time.
 

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Jesus does not send down the fire in Rev 20.
No, The Father sends that fire down upon those leftover nations which Satan deceives to go up against Christ and His Church in the "camp of the saints", i.e. Jerusalem for that time after Christ's 1,000 years reign on earth.
 

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All SAME event and SAME timing.

The "day of the Lord" that ENDS this present world
The great and notable day of the Lord in Joel, was confirmed by Peter as the first coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh.

But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

It is with that day of the Lord coming in the flesh, that last days of man's rule is on earth, and whosoever calls on the Lord shall now be saved, because the Spirit is now poured out upon all flesh.

That notable day of the Lord Resurrected on earth, is these last days, beginning with His coming in the flesh.

That notable day of the Lord will also be His return to earth with power, to end man's rule on earth, and to rule for Himself over all the earth.

That notable day of the Lord will then end with fire of God devouring all the last enemies of God and His saints on this earth.

It is one great and notable day of the lord in three separate events of the Lord coming to earth Himself, first in the flesh, then with resurrection power, then sending fire of God down from heaven.

It's the same as Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, and these three are one God in Three Persons. So that is one day of God is in three events.

That day's second event is not the first, and the 3rd event is not the second.

was first given by God through His Old Testament prophets. Even in Jeremiah when many interpret the "day of the Lord" phrase to mean when Nebuchadnezzar, king of Babylon destroyed Jerusalem, God was simply showing how many of the events in Daniel's day are to symbolize the very end of this world, and the 'final' day of this world (i.e., the "day of the Lord").
The word that the LORD spake to Jeremiah the prophet, how Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon should come and smite the land of Egypt.

It's about the day of the Lord using Babylon to defeat Egypt, who was coming up against Jerusalem.

For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates.

It foreshadows the Lord Himself doing the same with the nations of the north coming across Euphrates to Armageddon against Jerusalem.

Why are thy valiant men swept away? they stood not, because the LORD did drive them.

He made many to fall, yea, one fell upon another: and they said, Arise, and let us go again to our own people, and to the land of our nativity, from the oppressing sword.

It speaks with the same manner of Zech 14 prophesying the day of the Lord's return to earth.

And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.

Even as the Lord set Babylon against Egypt, so will He set the armies at Armageddon against one another, when He comes in His bright glory.



In 2 Peter 3:10-11, Peter is actually quoting from those OT prophets about that "day of the Lord" event that will END this present world time. And Peter directly associates God's consuming fire burning man's works off this earth with that "day of the Lord". That means NONE of man's works will survive that coming fire on the last day.

True. When the thousand years of the Lord's earthly reign expires.

So it's ignorant to even argue about the devil or his servants still being in power after that fire God will bring upon the earth to end this 'present' world when Jesus returns.
True. Neither after His return and during His reign, nor after their last gathering and being devoured, at the end of His reign.

The Gog-Magog nation alignment of Ezekiel 38 is happening NOW.
If so, they are the Gog that will cross Euphrates to Armageddon from the north countries.

They are not the Gog and Magog from all corners of the earth.


Ezekiel 39 events culminate the end of this present world. Ezekiel 40 thru 47 is Christ's Millennial reign, with His Millennial temple.
The end of nations of men ruling on this earth.

It is easy to 'know'... that the mention of Gog-Magog in Rev.20 is NOT about the armies of Satan's host coming up against Jerusalem at the battle of Armageddon. The event of Armageddon is for this 'PRESENT' world time.

You're getting confusing here. You are saying that the Lord's return and slaughter of armies at Armageddon is with fire of God in Rev 20?

And then you rightly say Gog and Magog in Rev 20, cannot be those at Armageddon in Rev 17 and 19?

It looks like you are transplanting the fire of God to Armageddon, while distancing those armies from Gog and Magog, upon whom the fire of God comes down to devour.
And Armageddon happens on the "day of the Lord", i.e., the last day of this present world, the 7th Vial per Rev.16.

The Gog-Magog peoples in Rev.20 represents those whom Satan deceives into coming up against the "camp of the saints" and the "beloved city", and is for AFTER Christ's future "thousand years" reign as written. The Armageddon/Ezek.38 nations come against DECEIVED JEWS IN JERUSALEM, not Christian saints.
Once again, you make a single day of the Lord's return with Rev 19 and 20, and yet confirm they cannot be the same event.


Thus the "camp of the saints" and "beloved city" marker in Rev.20 reveals...

1. Christ's future "thousand years" reign WITH His elect saints declared in that Rev.20 will be a REAL EVENT.
True.

2. The "beloved city", pointing to future Jerusalem, and as the "camp of the saints" points directly to Christ's Church in power there, something that has never happened during this present world, nor is it prophesied to happen for this present world time.
Once again, your use of this present world, and world time is misleading.

It's much clearer to simply say the end of man ruling over this earth. It will end with the Lord's return to rule over all the earth with His saints. They will have a little season after a thousand years, and then man's rule on this earth will end once for all.
 
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The great and notable day of the Lord in Joel, was confirmed by Peter as the first coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh.
Sorry, but that is wrong.

At the end of Joel 2, it says God will pour out His spirit BEFORE the "day of the Lord" happens.

Joel 2:29-31
29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out My spirit.
30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood,
before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
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So did you get that above mis-reading from your preacher?

But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;


And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
I even made that "before" red that you quoted from Peter in Acts 2. How did you miss that?

And when Peter said, "But this is that..." he was pointing to how that Joel 2 Scripture is an EXAMPLE of events for the very end just 'before' the coming "day of the Lord". What event since Acts 2 is about the 'cloven tongue'?

See Mark 13 where Jesus forewarned His elect about being delivered up to give a Testimony for Him, and to not premeditate what you will say in that hour, but speak what The Holy Spirit gives you to speak, because it will be The Holy Spirit speaking and not you.

Not all of us will be delivered up during the great tribulation to do that, but some of us will.
 

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Sorry, but that is wrong.

At the end of Joel 2, it says God will pour out His spirit BEFORE the "day of the Lord" happens.

Joel 2:29-31
29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out My spirit.
30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.
31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
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Thank you. Good attention to detail is always good correction. However, it doesn't mean a teaching is necessarily negated, but only improved.

And so, you are saying that the prophecy is in two parts? First at Pentecost, and then at the second coming?

You are saying the day of the Lord has not yet come to earth at all?

The problem is you left out some detail of the prophecy, by cutting it short:

The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.


The day of the Lord comes with men being saved by calling upon His name, which is Jesus Christ.

There are three parts to the prophecy, with the 2nd part coming in between the 1st and 3rd: the Spirit being poured out now, with men being saved by calling on His name. And yet the day of the Lord is not part of that, nor has yet to come.

The great and notable difference between the OT and NT, is that now men everywhere can be saved by the Lord, simply by calling upon His name with faith from the heart.

To separate the day of the Lord from the fulfillment of prophecy, is to gut the prophecy of that day, or to also remove being saved by calling upon His name.

Your interpretation is, before that great and notable day comes at all, and mine is before coming to an end.

The day of the Lord on earth is not a single one time event, but is that day when the Lord first comes to the earth in the flesh, and continues with that day of Christ coming with power and wrath, and that day ends with fire of God from heaven.

There are not two or three days of the Lord, but there is one great and notable day of the Lord on earth, first as the Lamb of God, second as the Lamb with power and wrath, and last with fire of God over all the earth.

Like the trinity, it's not three God's, but one God in three Persons: Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

Your point is good attention to detail, but only serves to perfect my teaching. The say of the Lord as several different events, is sloppy.

The day of the Lord is the ongoing day of the Lord Personally on earth, beginning with His first coming in the flesh, second coming in the air, and ending with fire of God from heaven.

Attention to detail must also be thorough, including all the details.
 

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Thank you. Good attention to detail is always good correction. However, it doesn't mean a teaching is necessarily negated, but only improved.

And so, you are saying that the prophecy is in two parts? First at Pentecost, and then at the second coming?
I recommend you see Christian Bible scholar E.W. Bullinger's explanation of Peter's "But this is that...".


Peter was not actually saying that Joel 2 prophecy had then come to pass. His saying, "But this is that..." was pointing to Pentecost serving as an 'example' for the future Joel 2 event (Mark 13:9-11).

You are saying the day of the Lord has not yet come to earth at all?
That's right, the "day of the Lord" as prophesied by Paul and Peter has NOT YET happened. Anyone with common sense ought to realize that easily, since Peter showed that day will involve the BURNING OF MAN'S WORKS OFF THIS EARTH on that day.


The problem is you left out some detail of the prophecy, by cutting it short:
There is NO PROBLEM in The Scriptures about that "day of the Lord" happening on the 'last day' of this present world, and ending this present world with Christ's coming.

The PROBLEM is with men's doctrines that would rather push a bunch of silliness against The Word of God, for those men were not sent by God. And the deceived who follow those men have fleshy ambitions, like status, money, fame, etc., that gets in the way of their using common sense in The Scriptures. So which are you?
 

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I recommend you see Christian Bible scholar E.W. Bullinger's explanation of Peter's "But this is that...".


Peter was not actually saying that Joel 2 prophecy had then come to pass. His saying, "But this is that..." was pointing to Pentecost serving as an 'example' for the future Joel 2 event (Mark 13:9-11).
LOL. What a joke. This is how people just twist scripture to make it say whatever they want it to say. Even an explicit statement like "this is that" turns into "this is NOT that but is only LIKE that" by false teachers like E.W. Bullinger. Unbelievable.

No, what was happening on the day of Pentecost WAS that prophesied by the prophet Joel in Joel 2:28-32. However, the fulfillment of the prophecy wasn't limited to just that one day. If you read the whole prophecy you should see that it involves people calling on the name of the Lord and being saved. And you should see that it involves "the last days" and not just "the day of the Lord". So, the prophecy began being fulfilled on the day of Pentecost long ago and has continued to be fulfilled during the last days ever since and will continue to be fulfilled right up until the future day of the Lord (the day Christ returns) that both Paul (in 1 Thess 4:14-5:6) and Peter (in 2 Peter 3:3-13) prophesied about.

That's right, the "day of the Lord" as prophesied by Paul and Peter has NOT YET happened. Anyone with common sense ought to realize that easily, since Peter showed that day will involve the BURNING OF MAN'S WORKS OFF THIS EARTH on that day.
I agree. But, the Joel 2 prophecy is not just about the day of the Lord. It is also about "the last days" that lead up to the day of the Lord. That is what you and E.W. Bullinger are missing when it comes to Acts 2:16-21 (Joel 2:28-32).
 

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I recommend you see Christian Bible scholar E.W. Bullinger's explanation of Peter's "But this is that...".

But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

This is that spoken of, and it is come to pass: the Spirit is now poured out upon all flesh.

The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.


These signs occurred before the day of the Lord on earth, and now it is come to pass with the day of the Lord, that men are saved by calling upon the name of the Lord, which name is Jesus Christ, which was not known before the Lord is come to earth, and called Jesus.

For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him.

For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.


Paul confirms with Peter that day of the Lord is come, and anyone calling on His name Jesus Christ, shall be saved.

If the day of the Lord is not come, with the Lord Himself coming to earth, then what good is that day?

There is no Scripture anywhere speaking of the day of the Lord come, that is not the Lord come to earth.

And also, if His day is not come to earth, then no man is being saved today by calling on the name of the Lord, who is now named Jesus Christ.
Peter was not actually saying that Joel 2 prophecy had then come to pass. His saying, "But this is that..." was pointing to Pentecost serving as an 'example' for the future Joel 2 event (Mark 13:9-11).
No example nor symbolism is mentioned.

Any one is now being saved, whether Jew or Gentile, by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, which is now made known in Scripture, in the day the Lord Himself is come to earth as a babe from the womb of a virgin.

That's right, the "day of the Lord" as prophesied by Paul and Peter has NOT YET happened. Anyone with common sense ought to realize that easily, since Peter showed that day will involve the BURNING OF MAN'S WORKS OFF THIS EARTH on that day.
True. The part of the day of the Lord, with the second appearing of the Lord on earth is not yet come, so that He does not yet reign over all the earth in Person.

The day of the Lord is still on earth, because the Lord Himself is still on earth, in the body of His church on earth.