The Forty Pre-Ascension Days

[BreadOfLife]

And your context is regarding my statement, of a man who claims to not SEE works of another man he does not know and has never seen?
LOL...silly boy.
I am BLIND to my sins...DUH ... they forgiven and covered.
The Lord remembers my sins no more, and neither do I.
You are the one WHO SEES.
You are the one WHO wags his finger and flaps his tongue yelling, and dictating who YOU are declaring is sinning; and even yourself YOU proclaim YOU sin.
Well goodie for you. That's YOU.
Your wagging tongue and accusations have none affect or effect on me.
I already KNOW how the Lord has dealt with my sins....and I already KNOW, I sin no more.
You should be concerned with yourself, before you waste your time badmouthing others.

Wrong again, Einstein.

ONLY the sins you repent of are forgiven. All of your future sins have YET to be repented of.
As a matter of fact - a lot of your past sins on this forum have yet to be repented of if you are under the false impression that you DON'T sin . . .

 

[Taken]

Wrong again, Einstein.

ONLY the sins you repent of are forgiven. All of your future sins have YET to be repented of.
As a matter of fact - a lot of your past sins on this forum have yet to be repented of if you are under the false impression that you DON'T sin . . .

I see you are still denying the Word of God.

You should be concerned about yourself.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

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According to Ps 16:8-10, Matt 12:40, and Acts 2:25-31, Christ's soul was in
the netherworld while waiting for his body's resurrection. And according to
Luke 23:43, the location was a paradise.

The only paradise I know of that satisfies those criteria is the afterlife site
where Abraham was residing in the story that's told at Luke 16:19-31. The
story is commonly referred to as a parable; but I kinda have my doubts
about it being a parable for a number of reasons.

Fiction can be defined as stories about people, places, and events that,
though untrue; are plausible; viz: realistic.

Fantasy can be defined as stories about people, places, and events that are
not only untrue; but implausible; viz: unrealistic.

For example: a story about a wooden boy like Pinocchio is unrealistic; while
a story about a boy with autism is realistic. The difference between Pinocchio
and the autistic boy is that the one is compatible with normal reality; while
the other is far removed from normal reality.

I have yet to read even one of Jesus Christ's usual parables that couldn't
possibly be a real-life story. They're all actually quite believable-- banquets,
stewards, weddings, farmers sowing seed, pearls, lost sheep, fish nets,
women losing coins, sons leaving home, wineskins bursting, tares among the
wheat, leavened bread, barren fig trees, the blind leading the blind, et al.

Now; if Christ had told a story that alleged the moon was made of green
cheese; we would have good reason to believe that at least that one was
fantasy; but none of his usual parables are like that. No; there's nothing out
of the ordinary them. At best; Christ's usual parables might qualify as
fiction; but never fantasy because none of them are so far removed from the
normal round of human experience that they have no basis in reality
whatsoever.

I think it is very safe to conclude that if Luke 16:19-31 were in fact a
parable, it would at least be based upon reality because it would be
inconsistent for all the other stories Jesus told to be realistic and then have
him tell just the one that's not.

The parable theory has a fatal flaw. Abraham is not a fictional character:
he's a real-life man; the father of the Hebrew people, held in very high
esteem by at least three of the world's prominent religions: Judaism,
Christianity, and Islam. And he's also the friend of God (Isa 41:8). I simply
cannot believe that Jesus Christ-- a man famous among normal Christians
for his honesty and integrity --would say something untrue about a famous
real-life man; especially about one of his Father's buddies.

And on top of that, the story quotes Abraham a number of times. Well; if the
story is untrue, then Jesus Christ is on record testifying that Abraham said
things that he didn't really say; which is a clear violation of the
commandment that prohibits bearing false witness.

There is something else to consider.

The story of the rich man and Lazarus didn't originate with Jesus Christ. No,
it originated with his Father. In other words: Jesus Christ was micro
managed.

● John 3:34 . . He whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God

● John 8:26 . . He that sent me is true; and I speak to the world those
things which I have heard of him.

● John 8:28 . . I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I
speak these things.

● John 12:49 . . I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me,
he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

● John 14:24 . .The word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which
sent me.

So, by alleging that Luke 16:19-31 is fiction/fantasy, the parable theory
slanders God by insinuating that He's a person of marginal integrity who
can't be trusted to tell the truth about people, not even about His own
friends.

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Paradise is not Heaven.
I would say that Paradise is given to one who is in God, one that is outside of God is outside of God.
Paradise is here on Earth, the Kingdom of God.
Kingdom of Heaven is not the Kingdom of God.

So when Jesus said you shall be with me in Paradise this day, he was not saying that this believer on him was going to be in Heaven this day, but this dude had the fortitude not to reject Jesus, so this dude has faith in who Jesus truly is, so that makes him a believer, as one that has hope in regard for the Kingdom of God and is not rejecting such as the others were.
The others are kingdom of Mans works, that leads to Hell fire.

When one study's the Bible, it's the Holy Spirit that gives light to and confirms that such a Story is a fact of reality of what is being conveyed, regardless of what any worldly person will try make of it.
A worldly person view of the Bible is worthless because such will never comprehend what's truly being conveyed, they are blind or dead to the Holy Spirit or Nosferatu the living dead Vampires that only such the life blood out of others, for their own ego is in control of their life.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

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Have you tried a search with Yahoo or Google? There's quite a bit of
information about Mother Teresa on the internet.

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How many people did she lead to Christ Jesus is all I want to know.
Good works are only the works of Man, any fool can do that and the Bible says they will get their reward as to Man.
Nothing wrong in doing good works but it just does not cut it in the Kingdom of God or Kingdom of Heaven.

 

[Webers_Home]

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How many people did she lead to Christ

In Teresa's day, it was illegal in India to proselytize so Teresa's sisters went
about their business virtually mute as far as Christ's gospel goes in order to
prevent their operation from being evicted from India.

In her own book, Life in the Spirit: Reflections, Meditations, and Prayers,
Mother Teresa says on pp. 81-82:

We never try to convert those who receive [aid from Missionaries of
Charity] to Christianity but in our work we bear witness to the love of God's
presence and if Catholics, Protestants, Buddhists, or agnostics become for
this better men— simply better —we will be satisfied.

It matters to the individual what church he belongs to. If that individual
thinks and believes that this is the only way to God for her or him, this is the
way God comes into their life— his life. If he does not know any other way
and if he has no doubt so that he does not need to search then this is his
way to salvation.

The following is from an interview with a Catholic nun, Sister Ann, who
worked in Kathman-du, Nepal, with Mother Teresa's organization
Missionaries of Charity. The interview was conducted 11/23/84 at the
Pashupati Temple.

Q: Do you believe if they die believing in Shiva or in Ram [Hindu gods] they
will go to heaven?

A: Yes, that is their faith. My own faith will lead me to God; so if they have
believed in their god very strongly, if they have faith, surely they will be
saved.

Q: Today it does not seem that the Catholic Church is trying to convert
anymore. I know that John Paul II is saying now that those of other religions
are saved. You do not believe they are lost anyway, right?

A: No, they are not lost. They are saved according to their faith, you know.
If they believe whatever they believe, that is their salvation.

The below is an excerpt from a Sept 9, 1997 Associated Press article titled:
Mother Teresa Touched Other Faiths

When Teresa died, her longtime friend and biographer Naveen Chawla said
that he once asked her bluntly: Do you convert?

She replied: Of course I convert. I convert you to be a better Hindu or a
better Muslim or a better Protestant. Once you've found God, it's up to you
to decide how to worship him.

The April 7-13, 1990, issue of Radio Times tells the story of Mother Teresa
sheltering an old Hindu priest.

She nursed him with her own hands and helped him to die reconciled with
his own gods.

/

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

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In Teresa's day, it was illegal in India to proselytize so Teresa's sisters went
about their business virtually mute as far as Christ's gospel goes in order to
prevent their operation from being evicted from India.

In her own book, Life in the Spirit: Reflections, Meditations, and Prayers,
Mother Teresa says on pp. 81-82:

We never try to convert those who receive [aid from Missionaries of
Charity] to Christianity but in our work we bear witness to the love of God's
presence and if Catholics, Protestants, Buddhists, or agnostics become for
this better men— simply better —we will be satisfied.

It matters to the individual what church he belongs to. If that individual
thinks and believes that this is the only way to God for her or him, this is the
way God comes into their life— his life. If he does not know any other way
and if he has no doubt so that he does not need to search then this is his
way to salvation.

The following is from an interview with a Catholic nun, Sister Ann, who
worked in Kathman-du, Nepal, with Mother Teresa's organization
Missionaries of Charity. The interview was conducted 11/23/84 at the
Pashupati Temple.

Q: Do you believe if they die believing in Shiva or in Ram [Hindu gods] they
will go to heaven?

A: Yes, that is their faith. My own faith will lead me to God; so if they have
believed in their god very strongly, if they have faith, surely they will be
saved.

Q: Today it does not seem that the Catholic Church is trying to convert
anymore. I know that John Paul II is saying now that those of other religions
are saved. You do not believe they are lost anyway, right?

A: No, they are not lost. They are saved according to their faith, you know.
If they believe whatever they believe, that is their salvation.

The below is an excerpt from a Sept 9, 1997 Associated Press article titled:
Mother Teresa Touched Other Faiths

When Teresa died, her longtime friend and biographer Naveen Chawla said
that he once asked her bluntly: Do you convert?

She replied: Of course I convert. I convert you to be a better Hindu or a
better Muslim or a better Protestant. Once you've found God, it's up to you
to decide how to worship him.

The April 7-13, 1990, issue of Radio Times tells the story of Mother Teresa
sheltering an old Hindu priest.

She nursed him with her own hands and helped him to die reconciled with
his own gods.

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Well that proves she is not of Christ Jesus at all and why the new age idolise her.

 

[BreadOfLife]

I see you are still denying the Word of God.
You should be concerned about yourself.

Really? So, we DON'T have to repent our sins??
Chapter and verse, please . . .

 

[Triumph1300]

Nothing wrong in doing good works but it just does not cut it in the Kingdom of God or Kingdom of Heaven.

Actually good works come as a result of salvation.
Salvation does not come as a result of good works.

How many did you lead to the Lord?

 

[Taken]

Really? So, we DON'T have to repent our sins??
Chapter and verse, please . . .

Really like uh, like man...

1 John 3:9
Some men have already repented, been forgiven, their sins covered, their soul saved, their spirit quickened...and sin no more.

So no, those men do not keep repenting for sins they are not, can not commit.

Those men are PREPARED to serve the Lord.

But for you....ya, you need to KEEP repenting, since you have commited yourself to Jewish Laws.
Then maybe one day you will choose to commit yourself to CHRIST, and learn how to serve HIM...instead of serving the Law.

 

[Taken]

Actually good works come as a result of salvation.

Good Works are POSSIBLE for a man to do, as a result of him receiving Salvation.

Salvation does not come as a result of good works.

True....for a man subject to Christ.

Not True...for a Jew, whose Works according to the Law, must be accomplished as acts toward them enduring to the end to receive Salvation.

 

[Taken]

Wrong again, Einstein.

ONLY the sins you repent of are forgiven. All of your future sins have YET to be repented of.
As a matter of fact - a lot of your past sins on this forum have yet to be repented of if you are under the false impression that you DON'T sin . . .

FUTURE SINS...WHAT FUTURE SINS DUDE?

Oh like NOT believing in God in the Lord?
Eh...wrong.
Oh like Corrupting my soul that is saved?
Eh...wrong.
Oh like giving God back His uncorruptable Seed, and my spriit becoming unborn?
Eh...wrong.
Oh like snatching my dead crucified, sanctified, justified body out of Christs hands?
Eh...wrong.
Oh like OVERPOWERING the Spirit of God in me?
Eh...wrong.
Oh like Rejecting the Truth that a man born of God can not sin?
Eh..wrong.

Dude you are without understanding of the gifts and Power of Christ!

You babble on and on about what were sins under Jewish Laws...

HELLO dude...I am not a Jew. I do not practice their religion, nor am subject to their Laws...any more than I am subject to your Catholic rules and teaching, accusations, and nonsense.

I am subject to Christ. There ARE NO SINS a man subject TO CHRIST can commit.
Ding, ding, ding.....What part of Freed FROM SIN!! Dead to Sin, Can not sin, Escapes your simple minded understanding?

Every Jew WHO becomes subject TO Christ
Is Freed from Sin. And they are Freed from, redeemed from Penalties of the Curse Laws of Sin...duh...No sin..No consequences possible for sin....Kaput!!

You speaking for me, things I do not say, then claim...awe, awe, you sinned, you sinned...you, you, you....wrong, wrong, wrong...wagging your tongue, point your finger...grabbing irrelevant inapplicable scriptures and pretending they apply to a man subject TO Christ.....Is totally foolish on your part.....and SAD you have spent your whole life learning how to be Subject TO your Catholic Chruch, instead of learning HOW TO become Subject TO Christ.

Pitiful!

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Actually good works come as a result of salvation.
Salvation does not come as a result of good works.

How many did you lead to the Lord?

I don't think I have led anyone to the Lord Jesus Christ, they have to want to pick up themselves first I can only hope to guide in some way.
I know of people who were a shining light to me in regards to their love to Jesus Christ, but no one led me to Christ Jesus.
Jesus Christ found me.
Salvation is a work in progress, that abides in the Lord Jesus only.

 

[Webers_Home]

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An indictment can be defined as a formal accusation that a person has
committed a crime.

It's possible for an indictment to contain not just one crime, but an unlimited
number; for example:

● Rev 20:12-13 . . And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the
throne, and books were opened. And each person was judged according to
what he had done.

The law of God prohibits dishonesty (Lev 19:11). So, each time somebody is
untruthful, it goes against them; and a lifetime of dishonesty can add up to
a pretty large number of counts; each punishable by a mode of execution
akin to a foundry worker falling into a kettle of molten iron.

● Rom 6:23 . .The wages of sin is death

● Rev 21:8 . . All liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and
brimstone, which is the second death.

God has made it possible for selected individuals to get their current
indictment thrown out; and a guarantee that He won't start a new one.

/

 

[Taken]

Really? So, we DON'T have to repent our sins??

Really...? I said no such thing.

Chapter and verse

, please . . .

Really...? You said it, you figure out why.

 

[Taken]

Paradise is not Heaven.
I would say that Paradise is given to one who is in God, one that is outside of God is outside of God.
Paradise is here on Earth, the Kingdom of God.
Kingdom of Heaven is not the Kingdom of God.

So when Jesus said you shall be with me in Paradise this day, he was not saying that this believer on him was going to be in Heaven this day, but this dude had the fortitude not to reject Jesus, so this dude has faith in who Jesus truly is, so that makes him a believer, as one that has hope in regard for the Kingdom of God and is not rejecting such as the others were.
The others are kingdom of Mans works, that leads to Hell fire.

Disagree, somewhat.

More specifically;

Paradise IS; where the TREE OF LIFE IS.
The Tree of Life IS; where Paradise IS.

Man's "goal" is to mimic God, become likened to God, "to become" where God IS forever.

The seed, the soil, the root, the stem, the branch, the vine, the fruit....
....all references carnally to a tree
....all references spiritually to the Lord
....all references spiritually of a man who IS "WITH" the Lord...be the man naturally Bodily alive or dead.

Paradise IS; Where the seed, the soil, the root, the stem, the branch, the vine, the fruit of God IS....and a man with the Lord is also able to Be.

Paradise WAS;
.....in the Garden of Eden
.................for Adam, who did not eat of it.

Paradise WAS;
.....in the comfort side of hell
..................for saved souls waiting with
..................Abraham for Christ's redemption

Paradise IS:
.....for saved departed souls; (from the body)
..................in heaven
.....for saved imparted souls; (in the body)
..................in Quickened spirits of men

Paradise SHALL Be:
.....in Gods Kingdom on Earth.
.....for all saved & quickened & glorified men
.....forever with their Lord, their God.

God Bless,
Taken

 

[Taken]

Wrong again, Einstein.
ONLY the sins you repent of are forgiven.

LOL - Catholic teaching:

To ask the Lord for forgiveness of Sin...
Requires a LAUNDRY LIST.

Go PRACTICE confessing your sins to your friends...and when you are all finished practicing...Go confess your Sins to the Lord.
He doesn't require a laundry List...He knows all things.

All of your future sins have YET to be repented of.

LOL - Catholic teaching:

Repenting TO the Lord and receiving FORGIVENESS FROM the Lord................. has a LIMIT...The Lord just doesn't know what one MIGHT DO IN THE FUTURE...LOL

LOL - Catholics REQUIRE REPEATEDLY being Washed in Jesus' BLOOD....you know...like Temporary Animal Blood that required repeating.....eh, so also is Catholic teaching;
They sin, sin, sin....and then go ask the Lord to keep washing away their sin, with His Blood.

Catholic teaching: FAIL. Christ's Blood is only required ONCE, and it is for ALL sins of man having been Against God.

LOL - A Catholics FACTS;

As a matter of fact - a lot of your past sins on this forum have yet to be repented of if you are under the false impression that you DON'T sin . . .

Scriptural FACTS;
Sin is only AGAINST God.
Sin is only FORGIVEN by God.
Once a man repents to God, All of his sin is forgiven.....and there is a BONUS....the man can SIN NO MORE!

LOL - A Catholics FACTS;
Men engaging, one man with another man;
on a forum...
Accusations made BY one man "Against" another man....is declared a SIN.

LOL - MEN do not SIN "AGAINST" MEN.
LOL - Accusations do not constitute SIN to the accused.

Sin is AGAINST GOD!
Only God FORGIVES SIN!
God does not Require He repeat Himself;
When God forgives SIN, it is Done!
There IS NO MORE SIN a man can commit!
That INDWELLING Power of God...

Obviously taught to Catholics...ain't so powerful....'cause Catholics have more power than God..."they can sin, they can forgive sin"..."they can sin, WHILE the Power of God dwells in them"....or maybe, they don't have the Power of God in them...??

Greater is He that is in you, than he that is in the world.

Mic 7:17
...the LORD our God
Mic 7:18
...WHO is a God, like unto thee,
...that pardon iniquity...

Learn the Truth...it will set you free from being subject to your brick and mortar church; to being subject TO CHRIST.

 

[BreadOfLife]

Really like uh, like man...
1 John 3:9
Some men have already repented, been forgiven, their sins covered, their soul saved, their spirit quickened...and sin no more.
So no, those men do not keep repenting for sins they are not, can not commit.
Those men are PREPARED to serve the Lord.
But for you....ya, you need to KEEP repenting, since you have commited yourself to Jewish Laws.
Then maybe one day you will choose to commit yourself to CHRIST, and learn how to serve HIM...instead of serving the Law.

That's NOT what 1 John 3:9 is talking about in context.
AGAIN - your #1 enemy, as always is context.

It is referring to a life of habitual sin as before. It's NOT talking about stumbling, which EVERY Christian does.
John admitted it (1 John 1:8) - and so did Paul (1 Tim. 1:15).

YOUR problem is that you can't admit it, so the truth is NOT in you (1 John 1:8).

 

[BreadOfLife]

FUTURE SINS...WHAT FUTURE SINS DUDE?
Oh like NOT believing in God in the Lord?
Eh...wrong.
Oh like Corrupting my soul that is saved?
Eh...wrong.
Oh like giving God back His uncorruptable Seed, and my spriit becoming unborn?
Eh...wrong.
Oh like snatching my dead crucified, sanctified, justified body out of Christs hands?
Eh...wrong.
Oh like OVERPOWERING the Spirit of God in me?
Eh...wrong.
Oh like Rejecting the Truth that a man born of God can not sin?
Eh..wrong.
Dude you are without understanding of the gifts and Power of Christ!
You babble on and on about what were sins under Jewish Laws...
HELLO dude...I am not a Jew. I do not practice their religion, nor am subject to their Laws...any more than I am subject to your Catholic rules and teaching, accusations, and nonsense.
I am subject to Christ. There ARE NO SINS a man subject TO CHRIST can commit.
Ding, ding, ding.....What part of Freed FROM SIN!! Dead to Sin, Can not sin, Escapes your simple minded understanding?
Every Jew WHO becomes subject TO Christ
Is Freed from Sin. And they are Freed from, redeemed from Penalties of the Curse Laws of Sin...duh...No sin..No consequences possible for sin....Kaput!!
You speaking for me, things I do not say, then claim...awe, awe, you sinned, you sinned...you, you, you....wrong, wrong, wrong...wagging your tongue, point your finger...grabbing irrelevant inapplicable scriptures and pretending they apply to a man subject TO Christ.....Is totally foolish on your part.....and SAD you have spent your whole life learning how to be Subject TO your Catholic Chruch, instead of learning HOW TO become Subject TO Christ.
Pitiful!

No - Like SINNING, which ALL Christians do.

John and Paul could admit it.
I wonder why YOU can't . . .

Can YOU say, "Spiritual Pride"??

 

[Taken]

1 John 3:9

It is referring to a life of habitual sin as before.

LOL, no.

1 John 3:9 is about a man born of God, can not sin. Ding, ding, ding ... Gods Spirit is in the man!!! Get a clue man, SIN is EVIL.

Psalms 5:4
For thou are not a God that hath pleasure in wickedness:
NEITHER SHALL EVIL DWELL WITH HIM!

Quit trying to preach God Dwells in a man while the man is commiting sin!
It's false.

God does not dwell in sin.
And a man STILL in SIN is NOT with God.

If you are still committing SIN, stop trying to drag God into your wickedness.

 

[Taken]

No - Like SINNING, which ALL Christians do.

All Christians COMMIT sin? WOW...ain't you special.
You not only SPEAK FOR everyone on this forum .... now you SPEAK FOR ALL Christians?

Your ignorance is astounding.

John and Paul could admit it.
I wonder why YOU can't . . .

In addition to a muzzle, seems you also require a box of Q-tips...

You "wonder" ....LOL......
What do you think Forgiveness is given (from the Lord ) FOR?

Sad, sad, sad the junk you say.