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The Giants

Discussion in 'Bible Study Forum' started by Ziggy, Oct 27, 2020.

  1. Ziggy

    Ziggy Well-Known Member

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    Yeah about that age thing..

    I had a thought one time.... ( I crack myself up)
    anywho..

    That the 1000 year reign.. Adam lived to be something like 930 years old. I didnt look it up...
    So the people "worshipped" Adam as a god.. until another prominent figure took his place.

    Like Adam lived 70 years.. just saying.. but the people worshipped his "image"
    for the next ... check that out lol

    930 + 70... I'm not even kidding LOL

    that kinda falls in line with the gods that were no gods.
    They worshipped them instead of the Creator.

    I dunno
    Just thinking..
    how many so far ziggy?
    How many what?
    Thoughts
    One at a time, one at a time..

    HUGS
     
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    Yes, we see the males lived as many years as Methuselah(969), but the daughters of these men lived less than 100?

    Very funny.

    fact is, Mrs. noah was as old as her husband.

    These old folks stopped their growing spurt at probably 150 years old, which makes the giants.
     
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    Uhhm ....no. Daughters of MEN ....means they were born of human men.
     
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    I was being sarcastic:)
     
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    TLHKAJ Well-Known Member

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    Phew!! Good to know, because I was scratching my head on that one. :D lol
     
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    Type II. “Mighty Men”, Ordinary men in stature, “A Giant”

    As previously stated, Nephilim do not mean ONLY “Giants” in stature, no, not at all, but here we will examine the Nephilim in stature, yes Giants, as in height. again, we will look at Giants after the flood and see these giants and where they came from. and they all came from the same source, ordinary human men and women, in this case, post flood Noah and his sons. We will start with one of the best know giants in the bible, Goliath, the Philistine of Gath.

    These are the names of Noah sons. Genesis 9:18 & 19 "And the sons of Noah, that went forth of the ark, were Shem, and Ham, and Japheth: and Ham is the father of Canaan. 19 "These are the three sons of Noah: and of them was the whole earth overspread”. Knowing this, the only people to exist on the entire planet, after the flood, came from these three sons of Noah. no giants came from any other unions but of human men and women, this is bible.

    1 Samuel 17:23 "And as he talked with them, behold, there came up the champion, the Philistine of Gath, Goliath by name, out of the armies of the Philistines, and spake according to the same words: and David heard them”. Here the scriptures say that Goliath was a Philistine. And Goliath himself tells us that he is a Philistine. 1 Samuel 17:8 "And he stood and cried unto the armies of Israel, and said unto them, Why are ye come out to set your battle in array? am not I a Philistine, and ye servants to Saul? choose you a man for you, and let him come down to me”.

    We know without a doubt that Goliath of Gath is a Philistine. Now the question comes, where did the Philistine come from? Answer, let’s look at the genealogy of Noah sons and trace back to Goliath of Gath who is a Philistine. Genesis 10:6 "And the sons of Ham; Cush, and Mizraim, and Phut, and Canaan”.

    One of Ham’s sons were Mizraim. Let’s look at Mizraim sons. Genesis 10:13 "And Mizraim begat Ludim, and Anamim, and Lehabim, and Naphtuhim, 14 "And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim”. As we can see Mizraim had a son name Casluhim which out of him came a people called Philistim.
    This is the same exact genealogy out of 1 Chronicles 1:12. Let’s compare them
    1 Chronicles 1:12 "And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (of whom came the Philistines,) and Caphthorim”.
    Genesis 10:14 "And Pathrusim, and Casluhim, (out of whom came Philistim,) and Caphtorim”.
    Perfect match, so we know that Philistim in Genesis 10:14 is the Philistines in 1 Chronicles 1:12.
    Knowing this, the Philistines came from HAM, one of Noah sons, who had Mizraim, who had Casluhim.

    So this Giant Goliath came from ordinary men and women NOT FROM ANY ANGELIC UNION WITH HUMAN WOMAN.

    now in the book of Numbers 13:33 "And there we saw the giants, the sons of Anak, which come of the giants: and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight".
    Here we see giants in stature/height the term "Giants"/nephilim is associated with the sons of Anak which can be trace back to HAM. a son of Noah. as i have already pointed out.

    And if one study the bible these so called Giants was just tall men. For Goliath was around 9ft. And 6 inches. lets get the details, 1 Samuel 17:4 "And there went out a champion out of the camp of the Philistines, named Goliath, of Gath, whose height was six cubits and a span."

    Doing the math, a cubits is roughly 18 inches, and a span = roughly 9 inches, one can google these results.
    Let’s add up Goliath height to be sure. He was six cubits and a span.
    1 cubits = 18 inches, which =1ft and 6 inches
    2 cubits = 18 inches, which =1ft and 6 inches
    3 cubits = 18 inches, which =1ft and 6 inches
    4 cubits = 18 inches, which =1ft and 6 inches
    5 cubits = 18 inches, which =1ft and 6 inches
    6 cubits = 18 inches, which =1ft and 6 inches

    That’s a total of 6ft and 36 inches. 36 inches is 3 feet. that makes Goliath 9ft tall. But now we need to add the span which is roughly 9 inches, which means the Philistine of Gath, Goliath was over 9 and a half feet tall. Well the tallest man in modern times was Robert Wadlow who stood in at 8ft and 11 inches, just about 9 feet. If one would look at some of his pictures next to ordinary people you will see why he is called a giant. Goliath would have had only a few inches on him.

    These giants through out the bible is just extra tall men and women. If one just take their time and add up some of these heights one will find that they was just extraordinary tall men, who had the condition in humans called “gigantism”. look that word up. as was with the famous wrestler Andre the giant.

    So get that Gulliver travels myth out of your head. These was just extra tall men who had ordinary parents who was human.

    and on a second NOTE: Goliath carried a spear that was like a weaver's beam. keep that in mind. scripture,
    2 Samuel 21:18 "And it came to pass after this, that there was again a battle with the Philistines at Gob: then Sibbechai the Hushathite slew Saph, which was of the sons of the giant."2 Samuel 21:19 "And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaareoregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam."2 Samuel 21:20 "And there was yet a battle in Gath, where was a man of great stature, that had on every hand six fingers, and on every foot six toes, four and twenty in number; and he also was born to the giant."2 Samuel 21:21 "And when he defied Israel, Jonathan the son of Shimea the brother of David slew him."2 Samuel 21:22 "These four were born to the giant in Gath, and fell by the hand of David, and by the hand of his servants."

    see people need to get their facts stright. there was Four different battles against the Philistines, wherein four valiants of David slay four giants.

    now this,
    1 Chronicles 11:22 "Benaiah the son of Jehoiada, the son of a valiant man of Kabzeel, who had done many acts; he slew two lionlike men of Moab: also he went down and slew a lion in a pit in a snowy day."1 Chronicles 11:23 "And he slew an Egyptian, a man of great stature, five cubits high; and in the Egyptian's hand was a spear like a weaver's beam; and he went down to him with a staff, and plucked the spear out of the Egyptian's hand, and slew him with his own spear."

    there's that "weaver's beam" again but it was of an Egyptian, a man of great stature, five cubits high. 5 cubits? now we're getting into height of Shack and Yao Ming. because Yao Ming stand at 7 ft and 6" and Gheorghe Mureșan stand in at 7ft. and 7" while Manute Bol stands in at 7ft and 7"
    these are just a few of some of the tallest men in resent history of basket ball around the world. just as there was the Egyptian, a man of great stature, five cubits high. or arount 7ft and 6". BINGO.

    so no, there was the exception like an king Og. but most of these men was just in the 7 to 9 ft range, at few like Og a bit taller.

    PICJAG
    101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
     
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    101G Well-Known Member

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    Yes, you're correct. and that's why God have repentance. any man or woman can repent of their "EVIL" way. be it killers or other men... the spilling of Blood. (you hit it on the head there Ziggy, evil men). just as Genesis 11 stated, "The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence", blood shed left and right. this is nothing new, just as we're killing each other TODAY.

    that's why God is going to put an end to all the violence going on in the EARTH, "TODAY".

    PICJAG
    101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
     
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    Hi. The problem with sheep is that they'll eat anything. Shalom.
     
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    You see what this is right?
    This is that list of positions that people have in the church.
    There are some prophets, and teachers, and healers, and the list goes on.
    An what else this is, is the edifying of the church.
    Because some bring this and some bring that and we all sit at the table and get to eat
    a fabulous meal. :)

    Thank You Brother.

    That was good
    :)
    HUGS
     
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    Mostly sheep eat grass, legumes, forbs, and other pasture plants. They especially love forbs. In fact, it is usually their first choice of food in a pasture. ... As compared to cattle, sheep eat a greater variety of plants and select a more nutritious diet, though less so than goats.

    what sheep eat - Sheep 101
    www.sheep101.info


    aleichem shalom

    :)

    HUGS
     
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    in the name of Jesus you're welcome.

    again you're correct, Jude 1:11 "Woe unto them! for they have gone in the way of Cain, and ran greedily after the error of Balaam for reward, and perished in the gainsaying of Core."Jude 1:12 "These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water, carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots;"

    PICJAG
    101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
    maybe, but they will not hear "anything", scripture, John 10:5 "And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers."

    PICJAG
    101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
     
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    lol
     
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    You, Sir, are a fraud.
     
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    Aleichem shalom. :)
     
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    Speculation;
    Regular height females?

    God Bless,
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    Regular height females? Fact. Shalom.
     
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    I remember ages ago,
    Thanksgiving.
    My dad had this cousin named franny. And every once in awhile she would come over for the holiday.
    Now Franny didn't have no teeth, and she was from the country, and we were city folk.
    And my two brothers and I sitting at the table...
    nom nom smack smack, nom nom
    My oldest brother look at us, just barely shake his head in the negative.."don't do it"
    Well, we just keep eating dinner, each of us looking at the other.
    We didn't dare look at our parents. We knew they knew what we was thinking.
    nom nom smack smack nom nom.
    And it wasn't funny either, it was GROSS..
    Like the sound you make when you bite into a lemon and you trying to suck saliva into your mouth to wash it down
    But we kept on eating.
    nom nom smack smack nom nom
    Wasn't much talking throughout the meal. I don't think anyone wanted to take a chance
    of allowing any form of comment that wasn't er appropriate.
    Finally the meal was over, we said goodbye to Franny, we helped clear the table, do the dishes, and then went off to watch tv.
    Later on when it was quiet, Mom come in and say, How was dinner?
    It was real good I liked the the stuffing best.
    I liked the gravy..
    No the pumpkin pie was my favorite.

    My mom looked at us all and said just four words.
    You Make Me Proud.

    I miss my mom, and both my bros.
    They went before me some time ago
    to set a place at that thanksgiving table
    somewhere down the road.
    Franny, well, she's there too
    just waiting for us all to get together
    maybe the Good Lord will give her some teeth.

    HUGS
    :)
     
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    (smile, thanks for the reply, and second, Talk is cheap, I have heard that before, as the scriptures states, 1 Thessalonians 5:21 "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good."

    all you have to do is just what the scriptures states, "prove what I have posted to be wrong", it's just that simple.....

    Remember, Don't argue with 101G, argue with the scriptures, God Holy Word.

    PICJAG
    101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"
     
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    One of my kids is profoundly deaf. Learned quickly deaf kids naturally eat with their mouth open chomping. Wanted to train her to eat with mouth closed. Tapping her, telling her didn't work. For about a month propped a mirror in front of her at every meal. It was funny watching her own reaction of "icky" "giggle", then close her mouth, until it was a habit. Compromise!!

    Taken
     
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