Exactly. The only part that is the essence of the old covenant that remains. But you just don’t get that.You mean the two love commands plucked out of the old covenant scriptures?
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Exactly. The only part that is the essence of the old covenant that remains. But you just don’t get that.You mean the two love commands plucked out of the old covenant scriptures?
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I showed from scripture that covenant and Testament are synonymous - that means the same thing, BTW.There are no Testament divisions in the Bible corresponding with other covenants (Noahic, Abrahamic, etc.).
The new covenant came from the Old Testament and was initially made with the old covenant people.
Jesus expected Nicodemus, an old covenant theologian, lto understand new covenant theology.
You are putting yourself and ignorantly trying to put others under the ended old covenant that is bondage, Galatians 4:21-31, and brings death and condemnation, 2 Corinthians 3, thus making Christ of no effect unto you, and you’ve fallen from grace, that’s what.And that death was laid on Jesus. Now what? The police officer has let you off even though you were doing 125mph through the city. What you gonna to do? A burn out as you do an illegal U-turn leaving him enveloped in a cloud of smoke?
So you're saying that the essence of the old covenant is essential to the new?Exactly. The only part that is the essence of the old covenant that remains. But you just don’t get that.
God always has law.So you're saying that the essence of the old covenant is essential to the new?
Too bad the Bible doesn't say "Man shall not live by bread alone but by every essence that proceeds out of the mouth of God."
I'm not talking about the Bible's use of the word "testament." I'm talking about man's use of it.I showed from scripture that covenant and Testament are synonymous - that means the same thing, BTW.
The Old Testament is primarily about the old covenant with Israel, and the New Testament is solely about the new covenant with Israel.
Your bible says old covenant and new covenant- because Testament and covenant are the same thing.
From Strongs bible dictionary:
G1242 (Strong)
διαθήκη
diathēkē
dee-ath-ay'-kay
From G1303; properly a disposition, that is, (specifically) a contract (especially a devisory will): - covenant, testament.
Total KJV occurrences: 33
You’re arguing from ignorance, when your very own bible says Old covenant and new covenant.
AgreedGod always has law.
The two commands transferred to the new covenant, because they fulfill ALL THE LAW, per Paul and Jesus.
This is the old covenant:The Decalogue and the 4th command did not transfer over, because that command was the old covenant sign between God and National Israel, given after the Exodus, and the old covenant is defunct.
Romans 7the Decalogue given to Moses kills and ministers death and condemnation, 2 Corinthians 3, but the new covenant of the spirit gives life.
Those same commands you claim you need to keep,requires you to kill sabbath breakers, under the same law the Decalogue came from.
Try reading the Bible sometime.Only a hypocrite argues like this, accuse God, claiming He <requires you to kill> whosoever! The Law of God commands you NOT to kill. That is God, speaking in His Law and Commandments.
If you cannot see the difference between God commanding positively, righteously and justly, and God commanding negatively because of man's wicked fallen state, you know nothing of God and nothing of man either.
But you take YOURSELF for the measure of perfection in righteousness and fairness, arguing like here.
Except THE commandments in the new covenant are the two love commands, not “the ministry of death an condemnation that kills” Decalogue..
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You mean the two love commands plucked out of the old covenant scriptures?
Exactly. The only part that is the essence of the old covenant that remains. But you just don’t get that.
Then why did the Holy Spirit -- through Paul -- tell us that God did have an "Old Covenant" and it is "that which is abolished"? Who is mistaken -- you or Paul?God never had an old covenant
Then why did the Holy Spirit -- through Paul -- tell us that God did have an "Old Covenant" and it is "that which is abolished"? Who is mistaken -- you or Paul?