The Great White Throne Judgment (GWT)

[Eternally Grateful]

The church of the living God, established 2,000 years ago at Pentecost. It is the sect that is everywhere spoken against (by carnal religious men)...because it is true.

Acts 28:22 But we desire to hear of thee what thou thinkest: for as concerning this sect, we know that every where it is spoken against.
23. And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.

So what church is this. Where can we find the writings and belief of this church?

 

[Wrangler]

4. The lake of fire produces death not eternal torment. That's why this is called the second DEATH.

At long last, we agree. :)

 

[Wrangler]

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.


The first resurrection is based on holiness. The 2nd resurrection is based on righteousness.

I never heard this before but I like it AND it agrees with Romans 2

 

[ChristisGod]

So what church is this. Where can we find the writings and belief of this church?

The irony in that is he rejects the authority of Scripture.

 

[ChristisGod]

I never heard this before but I like it AND it agrees with Romans 2

He is conflating them since one has to do with the saved and the other the lost. Believers are both holy and righteous and unbelievers are unholy and unrighteous.

 

[Episkopos]

So what church is this. Where can we find the writings and belief of this church?

There is this book called "The Bible". It is written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. It is very old...and it was inspired by the same Spirit that teaches me. :)

 

[ChristisGod]

There is this book called "The Bible". It is written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. It is very old...and it was inspired by the same Spirit that teaches me. :)

Nice try

 

[Eternally Grateful]

There is this book called "The Bible". It is written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. It is very old...and it was inspired by the same Spirit that teaches me. :)

So if this was true. Would not someone have taught what you teach??

Come on. Prove to us you not just another cult that has his own church..

 

[Wrangler]

He is conflating them since one has to do with the saved and the other the lost. Believers are both holy and righteous and unbelievers are unholy and unrighteous.

I don’t believe that. If humanity was that unrighteous, there would not be 8 billion, mostly non-Christians.

What criteria do you use to determine that ALL non-Christians are both unholy and unrighteous? And don’t tell me that you use 2 words here to mean the same thing.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

I don’t believe that. If humanity was that unrighteous, there would not be 8 billion, mostly non-Christians.

What criteria do you use to determine that ALL non-Christians are both unholy and unrighteous? And don’t tell me that you use 2 words here to mean the same thing.

Actually all mankind is unholy and unrighteous

for all have sinned and fall short.

 

[ChristisGod]

Actually all mankind is unholy and unrighteous

for all have sinned and fall short.

There is none who does good no not one . Maybe some of their Bible don’t have Roman’s chapter 3 in them lol

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Sadly to many think they are ok. And not sinners In the sense of the word they are in trouble..

like the jews, they thought they were righteous.

 

[Episkopos]

Actually all mankind is unholy and unrighteous

for all have sinned and fall short.

You are both unholy and unrighteous....you have spoken truth for a change. But not everyone is as corrupt as you are.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

You are both unholy and unrighteous....you have spoken truth for a change. But not everyone is as corrupt as you are.

actually yeah they are.

for all have sinned and fall short.

That includes you my friend. Your in the same boat unless you recieve Gods grace gift of eternal life based on the shed blood of his son.

 

[Episkopos]

Sadly to many think they are ok. And not sinners In the sense of the word they are in trouble..

like the jews, they thought they were righteous.

God thought that some indeed were. But you are NOT in that category.

I suggest you read the Bible. And then go to the cross.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

God thought that some indeed were. But you are NOT in that category.

I suggest you read the Bible. And then go to the cross.

God did not think any where

there are non righteous no not one

I went to the cross 40 years ago

When will you go to the cross. And stop pretending you do not need it?

I have repented and confessed I am lost apart from him. And called out to him as the tax collector.

 

[Episkopos]

God did not think any where

God thinks everywhere.

there are non righteous no not one

None so righteous...that never sin. But you have not read the bible yet, obviously. Do a study on the righteous. Use a concordance. Be creative.

I went to the cross 40 years ago

What kind of wood was it made of?

When will you go to the cross. And stop pretending you do not need it?

You only went to a temporal wooden cross in a Sunday school meeting. Now you need to go to the real cross...where all your religious ideas are put to death.

I have repented and confessed I am lost apart from him. And called out to him as the tax collector.

So now you are the Pharisee looking down on others as less saved than you are. What a conversion!

 

[Eternally Grateful]

God thinks everywhere.


None so righteous...that never sin. But you have not read the bible yet, obviously. Do a study on the righteous. Use a concordance. Be creative.

God said if you commit one sin, you’re not righteous. And you do not even have to do it on purpose. You can stumble in just one sin, and your guilty.

fr all have sinned and fall short..

You lower Gods standard.. why do you excuse your sins. Why will you not repent?

What kind of wood was it made of?

So you tell me to go to the cross. And I say i did. You this is your answer.

typical response from someone who has nothing to offer

You only went to a temporal wooden cross in a Sunday school meeting. Now you need to go to the real cross...where all your religious ideas are put to death.

I went to the real cross. The cross where jesus said it is finished. The one where God proved to myself and the world God accepted his sacrifice bu raising hm from the dead.

again, when will you stop excusing your sin and go to the cross yourself?

So now you are the Pharisee looking down on others as less saved than you are. What a conversion!

There are saved and unsaved.

there is no such thing as "less" saved.

If you understand the true gospel. you would realize this..

 

[ChristisGod]

This is obviously false. The Book of Life has all those written who have been saved by grace. And they are saved by grace because they have believed on the Lord Jesus Christ.


This again is totally false. The "second death" is in the Lake of Fire, and the Lake of Fire is for eternal torment.


This is the THIRD TIME that you have made a false statement. The second resurrection is for all those who were never saved and therefore were in Hades awaiting their final judgment. Therefore they are all cast into the Lake of Fire. Because they are judged "according to their works" there are degrees of punishment in Hell.

So Episkopos, you are once again found to be A FALSE TEACHER. And what did Christ say about false teachers. WE ARE TO BEWARE OF FALSE TEACHERS.

Ditto

 

[Episkopos]

God said if you commit one sin, you’re not righteous.

That's false. That's not what righteousness is about. The righteous own up to their sins...and God forgives them. There is NONE righteous that never sins.

And you do not even have to do it on purpose. You can stumble in just one sin, and your guilty.

fr all have sinned and fall short..

Of course...in human strength no one can walk at a holy standard.

You lower Gods standard.. why do you excuse your sins. Why will you not repent?

Your sins are greater because, as a hypocrite, you insult holiness AND righteousness.

So you tell me to go to the cross. And I say i did. You this is your answer.

typical response from someone who has nothing to offer

I offer the truth. If you don't go to the cross...and yet continue to disparage righteousness and holiness..then you will be judged along with all the other hypocrites in history. God is NOT a respecter of persons.

I went to the real cross. The cross where jesus said it is finished. The one where God proved to myself and the world God accepted his sacrifice bu raising hm from the dead.

Only in your mind. You have a religious bent that you believe is there to save you...instead of just masking you away from the truth.

again, when will you stop excusing your sin and go to the cross yourself?

When I testify to that...the babies here will accuse me of trying to be saved by EXPERIENCE instead of the bible. That shows you what the spiritual IQ is around here.

There are saved and unsaved.

Say it again..."saved" Now repeat and repeat until you stop feeling alone and "unsaved".

there is no such thing as "less" saved.

If you understand the true gospel. you would realize this..

Quite the opposite. Salvation is a process...whereas holiness is not. Salvation is becoming more like Christ. And going from being a vessel of dishonour to one of honour. Have you read up to the verse that says...work out your own (individual) salvation with fear and trembling?

In a war...people are killed. But there are always MORE wounded than killed. So these come back from the war...blind, maimed, psychologically damaged....etc.

The 2 dimensional understanding of people who think they are saved to "go to heaven" don't understand how judgment works. As long as the pews are filled....