The Image And Likeness Of God

[soul man]

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. - Genesis 3:15.

Do you understand the difference between a creature and a spiritual being? The creation of God and the birthed of God are two different people by nature. Those in the world are creations of God and not born children of God. As creations, like Adam, they were created in the image and likeness of God. Being created in the image and likeness of God does not make you a spiritual being. There was nothing spiritual about Adam he was the created of God and not a child or the birthed of God. Oddly for some they want to mix the two together, you cannot mix the creation of God with the children of God who he birthed. If you were to take that to the full extent you realize there was no born again until Jesus Christ gave his life on the cross for the created of God those in the image and likeness of God. What Jesus did on the cross was kill Adam's adamic seed we call it - but that seed came from a progenitor but regardless Adam had a seed in him that came through disobedience, by one man sin entered into the world - that came through Adam.

Sin entered in through one man - what is it that caused humanity to become sinners caused all humanity by nature. The seed. It caused the misuse and abuse of all mankind by the original progenitor Lucifer himself. When Adam believed the LIE he became The offspring of Satan by nature by spirit by life. It may be death life but it became Adam's life.

Adam being created in the image and likeness of God now had a nature, in that nature was the thy nature. That speaks of the seed that came by Adams disobedience. Her seed is the prophecy of Jesus Christ that would come through the woman Mary. When mankind is born they have thy seed - and for those now that are born again, because of the cross, they have her seed - there is a separation between the two seeds as described in Genesis 3:15.

Point being Adam's disobedience did not destroy - annihilate - or do away with the creation of God, which is in the image and likeness of God. What happened with that image and likeness? the soul of man - the image and likeness - it began to be used and misused by that seed that came through Adam.

We use a term called 'Satan abuse' and basically that is what it is that humanity (those created in the image and likeness) are tormented by and abused by. The nature - by a seed, by the death life - that now has plagued humanity since the disobedience of Adam. What the world and religion do is! blame the world's troubles on the image and likeness of God.

That is the mistake that is made until you can understand the separation of soul and spirit. One is in the image and likeness of God and the other is not created by God but has a progenitor that it came through. Humanity never loses the image and likeness of God what they did was gain a seed but through that seed that Adam received by disobedience. The stage was set. God brought in His seed through the woman 'Christ in you the hope of glory. The seed of God.

Contrasting nature's, contrasting seeds, contrasting lives, contrasting ways, contrasting. It was set - like day and night - oil and water - and law and Grace. The stage was set by God to birth his own children by his seed Christ in you the hope of glory.

 

[farouk]

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. - Genesis 3:15.

Do you understand the difference between a creature and a spiritual being? The creation of God and the birthed of God are two different people by nature. Those in the world are creations of God and not born children of God. As creations, like Adam, they were created in the image and likeness of God. Being created in the image and likeness of God does not make you a spiritual being. There was nothing spiritual about Adam he was the created of God and not a child or the birthed of God. Oddly for some they want to mix the two together, you cannot mix the creation of God with the children of God who he birthed. If you were to take that to the full extent you realize there was no born again until Jesus Christ gave his life on the cross for the created of God those in the image and likeness of God. What Jesus did on the cross was kill Adam's adamic seed we call it - but that seed came from a progenitor but regardless Adam had a seed in him that came through disobedience, by one man sin entered into the world - that came through Adam.

Sin entered in through one man - what is it that caused humanity to become sinners caused all humanity by nature. The seed. It caused the misuse and abuse of all mankind by the original progenitor Lucifer himself. When Adam believed the LIE he became The offspring of Satan by nature by spirit by life. It may be death life but it became Adam's life.

Adam being created in the image and likeness of God now had a nature, in that nature was the thy nature. That speaks of the seed that came by Adams disobedience. Her seed is the prophecy of Jesus Christ that would come through the woman Mary. When mankind is born they have thy seed - and for those now that are born again, because of the cross, they have her seed - there is a separation between the two seeds as described in Genesis 3:15.

Point being Adam's disobedience did not destroy - annihilate - or do away with the creation of God, which is in the image and likeness of God. What happened with that image and likeness? the soul of man - the image and likeness - it began to be used and misused by that seed that came through Adam.

We use a term called 'Satan abuse' and basically that is what it is that humanity (those created in the image and likeness) are tormented by and abused by. The nature - by a seed, by the death life - that now has plagued humanity since the disobedience of Adam. What the world and religion do is! blame the world's troubles on the image and likeness of God.

That is the mistake that is made until you can understand the separation of soul and spirit. One is in the image and likeness of God and the other is not created by God but has a progenitor that it came through. Humanity never loses the image and likeness of God what they did was gain a seed but through that seed that Adam received by disobedience. The stage was set. God brought in His seed through the woman 'Christ in you the hope of glory. The seed of God.

Contrasting nature's, contrasting seeds, contrasting lives, contrasting ways, contrasting. It was set - like day and night - oil and water - and law and Grace. The stage was set by God to birth his own children by his seed Christ in you the hope of glory.

Hi @soul man ...and the promised victory has come...1 Corinthians 15.57. :)

 

[soul man]

Hi @soul man ...and the promised victory has come...1 Corinthians 15.57. :)

I was starting to sweat I thought I missed the rapture. Good to see you!

 

[n2thelight]

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. - Genesis 3:15.

Do you understand the difference between a creature and a spiritual being? The creation of God and the birthed of God are two different people by nature. Those in the world are creations of God and not born children of God. As creations, like Adam, they were created in the image and likeness of God. Being created in the image and likeness of God does not make you a spiritual being. There was nothing spiritual about Adam he was the created of God and not a child or the birthed of God. Oddly for some they want to mix the two together, you cannot mix the creation of God with the children of God who he birthed. If you were to take that to the full extent you realize there was no born again until Jesus Christ gave his life on the cross for the created of God those in the image and likeness of God. What Jesus did on the cross was kill Adam's adamic seed we call it - but that seed came from a progenitor but regardless Adam had a seed in him that came through disobedience, by one man sin entered into the world - that came through Adam.

You must understand that we were with God before being born of woman ,therefore we were spiritual (a soul)that was put in the dirt ,at death the flesh goes back to dust and the spirit you return to God .

 

[farouk]

You must understand that we were with God before being born of woman ,therefore we were spiritual (a soul)that was put in the dirt ,at death the flesh goes back to dust and the spirit you return to God .

Hi @n2thelight ; Ephesians 1.4 says believers were indeed "chosen ... in Him before the foundation of the world".

 

[forever]

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. - Genesis 3:15.

Do you understand the difference between a creature and a spiritual being? The creation of God and the birthed of God are two different people by nature. Those in the world are creations of God and not born children of God. As creations, like Adam, they were created in the image and likeness of God. Being created in the image and likeness of God does not make you a spiritual being. There was nothing spiritual about Adam he was the created of God and not a child or the birthed of God. Oddly for some they want to mix the two together, you cannot mix the creation of God with the children of God who he birthed. If you were to take that to the full extent you realize there was no born again until Jesus Christ gave his life on the cross for the created of God those in the image and likeness of God. What Jesus did on the cross was kill Adam's adamic seed we call it - but that seed came from a progenitor but regardless Adam had a seed in him that came through disobedience, by one man sin entered into the world - that came through Adam.

Sin entered in through one man - what is it that caused humanity to become sinners caused all humanity by nature. The seed. It caused the misuse and abuse of all mankind by the original progenitor Lucifer himself. When Adam believed the LIE he became The offspring of Satan by nature by spirit by life. It may be death life but it became Adam's life.

Adam being created in the image and likeness of God now had a nature, in that nature was the thy nature. That speaks of the seed that came by Adams disobedience. Her seed is the prophecy of Jesus Christ that would come through the woman Mary. When mankind is born they have thy seed - and for those now that are born again, because of the cross, they have her seed - there is a separation between the two seeds as described in Genesis 3:15.

Point being Adam's disobedience did not destroy - annihilate - or do away with the creation of God, which is in the image and likeness of God. What happened with that image and likeness? the soul of man - the image and likeness - it began to be used and misused by that seed that came through Adam.

We use a term called 'Satan abuse' and basically that is what it is that humanity (those created in the image and likeness) are tormented by and abused by. The nature - by a seed, by the death life - that now has plagued humanity since the disobedience of Adam. What the world and religion do is! blame the world's troubles on the image and likeness of God.

That is the mistake that is made until you can understand the separation of soul and spirit. One is in the image and likeness of God and the other is not created by God but has a progenitor that it came through. Humanity never loses the image and likeness of God what they did was gain a seed but through that seed that Adam received by disobedience. The stage was set. God brought in His seed through the woman 'Christ in you the hope of glory. The seed of God.

Contrasting nature's, contrasting seeds, contrasting lives, contrasting ways, contrasting. It was set - like day and night - oil and water - and law and Grace. The stage was set by God to birth his own children by his seed Christ in you the hope of glory.

... trying to understand what you said SM
When Adam believed the LIE he became The offspring of Satan by nature by spirit by life. It may be death life but it became Adam's life. Adam being created in the image and likeness of God now had a nature, in that nature was the thy nature.

quite
- may come a bit like a shock [and no i m not trolling] ,
but Adam never died , [in the sense we understand as dying ; Gen.5 is Esau's Fraud]
in fact
God tells in prophets the same as your 2nd line ;
adam still was in God's image and had all wisdom ,
but he started to work agáinst God [and us] after he was expelled from the garden

in prophets he is called 'the king of Assyria',
as 'proud of his own wisdom' [which he is]
and 'of this [=our] type body which his hands have made' , sic

what Adam did was using us [=souls on this earth] as his hostage against God ,
and adam "made a contract with the evil realm of spirits"
kind of like 'when he could stay by them, he would devise for them whatever they need'

Point being Adam's disobedience did not destroy - annihilate - or do away with the creation of God, which is in the image and likeness of God. What happened with that image and likeness? the soul of man - the image and likeness - it began to be used and misused

... not quite ,
many prophets lament about 'the now desolated land eden' [=paradise , in the other reality] ,
which is constantly looted and robbed by them spirits , as to feed upon her produces etc ;
for all the treason adam did , he will die , in the endtime [=now] ,
when God will stop the eden-life coming to him [=adam] ,
so , the source of his power stops

.. then the spirits , his 'friends', will slay him ,
see Ezekiel "but you are not a god , you are a man (lit: -adm)"
after which Isaiah 14 writes
how he will go down to the pit (Is 14 is not some 'lucifer' chapter - but is about adam)

That is the mistake that is made until you can understand the separation of soul and spirit. One is in the image and likeness of God and the other is not created by God but has a progenitor that it came through.

so , what adam did , his great crime ,
was that the rest of us - who had the same heavenly body as he had ,
us who also were under sin because of the tree of good and evil ,
we could not bear the presence of God anymore
and "wandered to the region where adam was - to ask for his help"

... but he [=adam] betrayed us
and handed us over to them spirits
who burned cooked and tortured our original bodies
to such extent that our soul had to escape out from them [=those gorgious bodies]

the ezechiel chapter writes , 'i passed by and saw your soul bathing in your own blood' etc

after which our soul was placed in this hostile body upon this hostile earth
as a soul not remembering anymore where she came from
and that was adam's goal [and Paul writes this in the NT]
so that adam forever would rule by keeping this hostage situation

God brought in His seed through the woman 'Christ in you the hope of glory.

.. therefore the deity had to ... incarnate - as core - into our horrible physical body ,
to can have our souls rescued from this prisonplanet and -body
- yes : it means that Christ went the same way as we did before we came here on earth ;
this is the real meaning of 'like a sheep He didnt open his mouth' in the Isaiah chapter ,
adding "but who of you [=us] will consider that ?"
(the fact that He had to go the same way) ..

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

You must understand that we were with God before being born of woman ,therefore we were spiritual (a soul)that was put in the dirt ,at death the flesh goes back to dust and the spirit you return to God .

Where is the scriptures that say we were in heaven with God before we were human?

 

[soul man]

Where is the scriptures that say we were in heaven with God before we were human?

Did you get anything out of the message?

 

[n2thelight]

Where is the scriptures that say we were in heaven with God before we were human?

Job 38:4 "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding."

Job 38:7 "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for Joy?"



Who were these "sons of God" [the stars that sang], and when did these sons of God sing for Joy?
We are talking about the angels here, that sang before the establishment of this earth age of the flesh. All souls were there and Satan also was there with all of them. Some how the people of this earth age are trying to forget Satan and the role that he played at the rebellion in that first earth age.

 

[soul man]

Job 38:4 "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding."

Job 38:7 "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for Joy?"



Who were these "sons of God" [the stars that sang], and when did these sons of God sing for Joy?
We are talking about the angels here, that sang before the establishment of this earth age of the flesh. All souls were there and Satan also was there with all of them. Some how the people of this earth age are trying to forget Satan and the role that he played at the rebellion in that first earth age.

Absolutely all of creation comes out of God.

 

[Curtis]

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. - Genesis 3:15.

Do you understand the difference between a creature and a spiritual being? The creation of God and the birthed of God are two different people by nature. Those in the world are creations of God and not born children of God. As creations, like Adam, they were created in the image and likeness of God. Being created in the image and likeness of God does not make you a spiritual being. There was nothing spiritual about Adam he was the created of God and not a child or the birthed of God. Oddly for some they want to mix the two together, you cannot mix the creation of God with the children of God who he birthed. If you were to take that to the full extent you realize there was no born again until Jesus Christ gave his life on the cross for the created of God those in the image and likeness of God. What Jesus did on the cross was kill Adam's adamic seed we call it - but that seed came from a progenitor but regardless Adam had a seed in him that came through disobedience, by one man sin entered into the world - that came through Adam.

Sin entered in through one man - what is it that caused humanity to become sinners caused all humanity by nature. The seed. It caused the misuse and abuse of all mankind by the original progenitor Lucifer himself. When Adam believed the LIE he became The offspring of Satan by nature by spirit by life. It may be death life but it became Adam's life.

Adam being created in the image and likeness of God now had a nature, in that nature was the thy nature. That speaks of the seed that came by Adams disobedience. Her seed is the prophecy of Jesus Christ that would come through the woman Mary. When mankind is born they have thy seed - and for those now that are born again, because of the cross, they have her seed - there is a separation between the two seeds as described in Genesis 3:15.

Point being Adam's disobedience did not destroy - annihilate - or do away with the creation of God, which is in the image and likeness of God. What happened with that image and likeness? the soul of man - the image and likeness - it began to be used and misused by that seed that came through Adam.

We use a term called 'Satan abuse' and basically that is what it is that humanity (those created in the image and likeness) are tormented by and abused by. The nature - by a seed, by the death life - that now has plagued humanity since the disobedience of Adam. What the world and religion do is! blame the world's troubles on the image and likeness of God.

That is the mistake that is made until you can understand the separation of soul and spirit. One is in the image and likeness of God and the other is not created by God but has a progenitor that it came through. Humanity never loses the image and likeness of God what they did was gain a seed but through that seed that Adam received by disobedience. The stage was set. God brought in His seed through the woman 'Christ in you the hope of glory. The seed of God.

Contrasting nature's, contrasting seeds, contrasting lives, contrasting ways, contrasting. It was set - like day and night - oil and water - and law and Grace. The stage was set by God to birth his own children by his seed Christ in you the hope of glory.

Adam was a created son who died spiritually when he sinned.

Christians are spiritually reborn and become adopted sons (children) of God at salvation.

It’s that simple.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Did you get anything out of the message?

I got out of that post that you're saying something I haven't seen in the scriptures. Like I asked where in the scriptures does it say we were in heaven with God before we were born humans.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Job 38:4 "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding."

Job 38:7 "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for Joy?"



Who were these "sons of God" [the stars that sang], and when did these sons of God sing for Joy?
We are talking about the angels here, that sang before the establishment of this earth age of the flesh. All souls were there and Satan also was there with all of them. Some how the people of this earth age are trying to forget Satan and the role that he played at the rebellion in that first earth age.

These sons of God are angels yes but nothing about the fact that these sons of God who are angels is said to have become human.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel. - Genesis 3:15.

Do you understand the difference between a creature and a spiritual being? The creation of God and the birthed of God are two different people by nature. Those in the world are creations of God and not born children of God. As creations, like Adam, they were created in the image and likeness of God. Being created in the image and likeness of God does not make you a spiritual being. There was nothing spiritual about Adam he was the created of God and not a child or the birthed of God. Oddly for some they want to mix the two together, you cannot mix the creation of God with the children of God who he birthed. If you were to take that to the full extent you realize there was no born again until Jesus Christ gave his life on the cross for the created of God those in the image and likeness of God. What Jesus did on the cross was kill Adam's adamic seed we call it - but that seed came from a progenitor but regardless Adam had a seed in him that came through disobedience, by one man sin entered into the world - that came through Adam.

Sin entered in through one man - what is it that caused humanity to become sinners caused all humanity by nature. The seed. It caused the misuse and abuse of all mankind by the original progenitor Lucifer himself. When Adam believed the LIE he became The offspring of Satan by nature by spirit by life. It may be death life but it became Adam's life.

Adam being created in the image and likeness of God now had a nature, in that nature was the thy nature. That speaks of the seed that came by Adams disobedience. Her seed is the prophecy of Jesus Christ that would come through the woman Mary. When mankind is born they have thy seed - and for those now that are born again, because of the cross, they have her seed - there is a separation between the two seeds as described in Genesis 3:15.

Point being Adam's disobedience did not destroy - annihilate - or do away with the creation of God, which is in the image and likeness of God. What happened with that image and likeness? the soul of man - the image and likeness - it began to be used and misused by that seed that came through Adam.

We use a term called 'Satan abuse' and basically that is what it is that humanity (those created in the image and likeness) are tormented by and abused by. The nature - by a seed, by the death life - that now has plagued humanity since the disobedience of Adam. What the world and religion do is! blame the world's troubles on the image and likeness of God.

That is the mistake that is made until you can understand the separation of soul and spirit. One is in the image and likeness of God and the other is not created by God but has a progenitor that it came through. Humanity never loses the image and likeness of God what they did was gain a seed but through that seed that Adam received by disobedience. The stage was set. God brought in His seed through the woman 'Christ in you the hope of glory. The seed of God.

Contrasting nature's, contrasting seeds, contrasting lives, contrasting ways, contrasting. It was set - like day and night - oil and water - and law and Grace. The stage was set by God to birth his own children by his seed Christ in you the hope of glory.

Adam had a body, soul and spirit which is the image of God. soul=father, body=son, spirit=spirit. Why people have to make up all sorts of philosophical reasonings to complicate the simple is still a mystery to me.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Job 38:4 "Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare, if thou hast understanding."

Job 38:7 "When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for Joy?"



Who were these "sons of God" [the stars that sang], and when did these sons of God sing for Joy?
We are talking about the angels here, that sang before the establishment of this earth age of the flesh. All souls were there and Satan also was there with all of them. Some how the people of this earth age are trying to forget Satan and the role that he played at the rebellion in that first earth age.

So you hold to the Jewish hypothesis of the "guff"? Where all the souls who will ever live are in a particular place in heaven until they are concieved?

 

[n2thelight]

These sons of God are angels yes but nothing about the fact that these sons of God who are angels is said to have become human.

What is a an Angel, simply put, a messenger of God. If you have eyes to see you will see the same thing that God asked us to do ,in which He also did.

Just gonna drop this here

Hebrews 2:14 "Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, He also Himself likewise took part of the same; that through death He might destroy him that had the power of death, that is the devil;"...

Who are the children? Where was He(Christ) before being born of the Woman Mary, in other words He didn't ask us to do anything that He wouldn't, which includes being born flesh, I mean really ,do you actually think you were created at conception.

The Children are those same stars and sons of God from Job, what you need to understand is, had satan not rebelled we would not had been made flesh.

When do you think satan rebelled ?

 

[n2thelight]

So you hold to the Jewish hypothesis of the "guff"? Where all the souls who will ever live are in a particular place in heaven until they are concieved?

Didn't know it was Jewish , but if that's what you wanna call it all good with me .

 

[n2thelight]

Adam was a created son who died spiritually when he sinned.

Christians are spiritually reborn and become adopted sons (children) of God at salvation.

It’s that simple.

Adam came down from Heaven to be the one that Christ would come through. We were spirit and soul before flesh(dirt)!!!

 

[Curtis]

You must understand that we were with God before being born of woman ,therefore we were spiritual (a soul)that was put in the dirt ,at death the flesh goes back to dust and the spirit you return to God .

Except for scripture that shows the soul leaves the body at death.

And IMO, since God at creation had no physical form, but is an eternal spirit, He made man an eternal spirit, in His image, and put us in a temporary home called our body.

 

[n2thelight]

Except for scripture that shows the soul leaves the body at death.

And IMO, since God at creation had no physical form, but is an eternal spirit, He made man an eternal spirit, in His image, and put us in a temporary home called our body.

Yes it does , that's my point ,as it also came down to occupy the flesh.

As for God, what may I ask do you think a spirit is, did not God allow Mosses to see Him ?

Not understanding your response