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I do see what you mean but at the same time: is the city not the people?
Yes and no. People are not heavenly *bricks and mortar* (or more precisely heavenly jewels and heavenly gold).

God has actually built or constructed a unique cubic city with twelve foundations. That in itself is amazing. But it is a real city in which the saints will dwell. It is personified because it is the eternal home of the Lamb and the Lamb's Wife. But those mansions promised by Christ are real heavenly mansions.

This may be difficult to grasp for those who are not children of God. They may even say that it is absurd that God would be the architect and builder of a city. But Abraham had no problem in believing this, and looked forward to living in that city.

By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: For he looked for a city which hath foundations, whose builder and maker is God... But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city. (Heb 11:9,10,16)
 
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Kingdom of God is not the same thing as the Kingdom of Heaven.

The Kingdom of God is Earthly bound for us who are alive but does the will of that that is in Heaven = Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is our Heavenly Father and we abide in him when we truly know him = Born Again.

When Jesus first met Nathaniel, Jesus said about that and Nathaniel being confirmed a true Israelite by Jesus himself in fact, would see this in fact taking place.

Many people have been of and are of the Kingdom of God for over 2000 years now, but that has always been under attack by the works of Satan to undermine and rob peoples Soul, the Holy Spirit points to the Truth and Satan hates the Truth because truth is not in him and that's why we see Politically Correct Socialist people say that there is no truth, they claim such is only relative, but Jesus says that Truth is clear and solid not muddied like the schools and uni mobs preach nowadays, it's a head in the sand attitude Niellist peddle because such do not want anyone to think for themselves, that's all done for you under Socialism and Communism, it's there Satanic mantra.
 

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um...lol
ha and i am the one who gets castigated for "smoking dope" lol. The Lord rebuke you wadr
Smoking dope ? if you are smoking dope 009 just be mindful not to smoke it if it's grown under lights, it needs sun light or a chemical imbalance comes into play that makes people schizo.
Or that the dope is laced with other stuff.
I don't castigate you for what you do, but to warn one be carful is a caring thing to do.
I know a mate that is into that every hour on the hour he goes into a little room and comes out blowing it out side, what can I do about it. yes he is a Christian and has mental problems from all the real bad drugs that he once took, but the dope calms him down and he has not taken back to the crap he was on because he know that's real bad and knows he was right off his rocker back then. but do I castigate him for it never.

wadr ? ha what's that crap bro.
 

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In John 3:3 Jesus says:
3Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

Jesus was speaking to Nicodemus and telling him what it meant to be born from above; some bibles say, born again.

What did Jesus mean that one could not see the Kingdom of God unless he was born again?
Where is the Kingdom of God?
Is it on earth?
In heaven?
In us?



Mark 1:15
15“The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”

In Luke 4:43 Jesus proclaimed what He believed to be His mission:
43But He said to them, “I must preach the kingdom of God to the other cities also, for I was sent for this purpose.”

In fact, Jesus spoke much more about the Kingdom of God than of being born again.
So, what exactly did He mean in Luke 4:43?

Hi GodsGrace, do you think that spreading the Gospel has to be by those chosen and gifted to preach the message of God?
 

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Hi GodsGrace, do you think that spreading the Gospel has to be by those chosen and gifted to preach the message of God?
Interesting question.
In Mathew 28 Jesus sent the APOSTLES out to teach and preach and baptize.
It does require a gift to witness properly; the same method does not apply to everyone, for example.

But the bible also tells us to be ready to give an explanation of our faith in 1 Peter 3:15, but with gentleness. If we were all as Jesus would like, as He said in Mathew 5:3-10, we'd all be more humble to share the Word of God, but sometimes we let pride get in our own way.

I do believe that these days everyone seems to be an expert. I've been checking out YouTube in this regard lately and anything you care to believe is on there.

What do you believe?
 
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Interesting question.
In Mathew 28 Jesus sent the APOSTLES out to teach and preach and baptize.
It does require a gift to witness properly; the same method does not apply to everyone, for example.

But the bible also tells us to be ready to give an explanation of our faith in 1 Peter 3:15, but with gentleness. If we were all as Jesus would like, as He said in Mathew 5:3-10, we'd all be more humble to share the Word of God, but sometimes we let pride get in our own way.

I do believe that these days everyone seems to be an expert. I've been checking out YouTube in this regard lately and anything you care to believe is on there.

What do you believe?
Same thing as you, because it's evident & sound. :)
 
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Smoking dope ? if you are smoking dope 009
ha i meant i get cast as someone "smoking dope" a lot lol, bc i advocate pot for health a lot i guess? Iow i could be eating it, or consuming any number of diff extractions that aren't even psychoactive--i might even be a teetotaler for all anyone knows--but none of that matters to an accuser lol
 
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Kingdom of God is not the same thing as the Kingdom of Heaven.

The Kingdom of God is Earthly bound for us who are alive but does the will of that that is in Heaven = Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ is our Heavenly Father and we abide in him when we truly know him = Born Again.

When Jesus first met Nathaniel, Jesus said about that and Nathaniel being confirmed a true Israelite by Jesus himself in fact, would see this in fact taking place.

Many people have been of and are of the Kingdom of God for over 2000 years now, but that has always been under attack by the works of Satan to undermine and rob peoples Soul, the Holy Spirit points to the Truth and Satan hates the Truth because truth is not in him and that's why we see Politically Correct Socialist people say that there is no truth, they claim such is only relative, but Jesus says that Truth is clear and solid not muddied like the schools and uni mobs preach nowadays, it's a head in the sand attitude Niellist peddle because such do not want anyone to think for themselves, that's all done for you under Socialism and Communism, it's there Satanic mantra.
Hi RB,
The terms Kingdom of God and Kingdom of Heaven could be used interchangeably.
They could also mean right here right now, and also the New Jerusalem of which Revelation 11:15 speaks.

And the Kingdom of God is truly earthbound as we find in the Lord's Prayer.
Your Kingdom Come
Your will be done
On earth
As it is in heaven

Jesus wills that God's Kingdom in heaven, also descend to the earth.
This is what Jesus meant when He announced in Mathew 4:17 to repent because the Kingdom of God was at hand. In Mathew 3:2 John the Baptist proclaims the same message... repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

This article explains how the terms are used in all 4 gospels.
Thanks for an interesting post.

For example, speaking to the rich young ruler, Christ uses “kingdom of heaven” and “kingdom of God” interchangeably. “Then Jesus said to his disciples, ‘I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven’” (Matthew 19:23). In the very next verse, Christ proclaims, “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God” (verse 24). Jesus makes no distinction between the two terms but seems to consider them synonymous.

Mark and Luke used “kingdom of God” where Matthew used “kingdom of heaven” frequently in parallel accounts of the same parable Compare Matthew 11:11-12 with Luke 7:28; Matthew 13:11with Mark 4:11 and Luke 8:10; Matthew 13:24 with Mark 4:26; Matthew 13:31 with Mark 4:30and Luke 13:18; Matthew 13:33 with Luke 13:20; Matthew 18:3 with Mark 10:14 and Luke 18:16; and Matthew 22:2 with Luke 13:29. In each instance, Matthew used the phrase “kingdom of heaven” while Mark and/or Luke used “kingdom of God.” Clearly, the two phrases refer to the same thing.

source: https://www.gotquestions.org/kingdom-heaven-God.html

(I don't use any site because I agree with its doctrine..but because they explain something well and simple language so that there's not pages and pages to read.)
 

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What does it mean that the Kingdom of God is within us?

I short, my take is that the Kingdom of God is likened to the fact that we are already seated at the right hand of the Father. Since we live in time, we are not experiencing it in the natural-which is an already done thing-IMO We accept it as Truth that we have been, already seated with the sheep.
I do not have scripture at hand to "prove" this - it is just my own thoughts and (as of now, belief)
1 Corinthians 13:12
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
 

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I short, my take is that the Kingdom of God is likened to the fact that we are already seated at the right hand of the Father. Since we live in time, we are not experiencing it in the natural-which is an already done thing-IMO We accept it as Truth that we have been, already seated with the sheep.
I do not have scripture at hand to "prove" this - it is just my own thoughts and (as of now, belief)
1 Corinthians 13:12
12 For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.
Christian Spirituality doesn't require scripture. Theology and bible study do and apologetics... We're here just to talk and exchange our ideas in the spiritual realm.

How about this?
You are also right in that we are already seated with God...but perhaps Jesus came here to show us HOW to be seated with God?

Maybe HE brought the Kingdom of God down to us?
We are the sheep, HE is our shepherd.

Jesus spoke a lot about the Kingdom of God, much much more than He spoke about salvation. He did intend to set up the Kingdom of God here on earth and wanted to show us how we could be a part of it.

We are living in satan's domain. Ephesians 2:2 tells us that he is the power of the air, the spirit that is now working in the sons of disobedience. 1 John 5:19 tells us that the whole world lies in the power of the evil one.

We must be born again to see this Kingdom which is all around us and visible ONLY to those that are born of God. Others do not see this spiritual Kingdom.
The Kingdom resides in our heart and it has a true King, Jesus. From our heart it spreads throughout all with whom we come into contact, and also affects what we do if we try to follow the laws of the Kingdom.

And laws it does have, if some wish to call this legalism, so be it. But to live in any neighborhood, or town, or city, or even the Kingdoms of old, one had to obey it's rules. Mathew 7:21, not all who say Lord, Lord, but those who do the will of our Father in heaven. If there is to be peace in the Kingdom, we must follow its rules.
If lying and murder and adultery and stealing is allowed....how will there be peace?

In Acts 1:3 we find that even after the resurrection Jesus is still speaking about the Kingdom of God. This was His mission, to bring the Kingdom of God here to us.
 

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The word used for Kingdom is
BASILEIA (Greek) = KINGDOM

It denotes sovereignty and royal power.
Jesus wished HIS sovereignty and HIS royal power to reign on earth.
Beginning at our conversion, we become members of His Kingdom.
It's unseen, but is experienced...like the wind.

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Hi RB,
The terms Kingdom of God and Kingdom of Heaven could be used interchangeably.
They could also mean right here right now, and also the New Jerusalem of which Revelation 11:15 speaks.

And the Kingdom of God is truly earthbound as we find in the Lord's Prayer.
Your Kingdom Come
Your will be done
On earth
As it is in heaven

Jesus wills that God's Kingdom in heaven, also descend to the earth.
This is what Jesus meant when He announced in Mathew 4:17 to repent because the Kingdom of God was at hand. In Mathew 3:2 John the Baptist proclaims the same message... repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

This article explains how the terms are used in all 4 gospels.
Thanks for an interesting post.

For example, speaking to the rich young ruler, Christ uses “kingdom of heaven” and “kingdom of God” interchangeably. “Then Jesus said to his disciples, ‘I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven’” (Matthew 19:23). In the very next verse, Christ proclaims, “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God” (verse 24). Jesus makes no distinction between the two terms but seems to consider them synonymous.

Mark and Luke used “kingdom of God” where Matthew used “kingdom of heaven” frequently in parallel accounts of the same parable Compare Matthew 11:11-12 with Luke 7:28; Matthew 13:11with Mark 4:11 and Luke 8:10; Matthew 13:24 with Mark 4:26; Matthew 13:31 with Mark 4:30and Luke 13:18; Matthew 13:33 with Luke 13:20; Matthew 18:3 with Mark 10:14 and Luke 18:16; and Matthew 22:2 with Luke 13:29. In each instance, Matthew used the phrase “kingdom of heaven” while Mark and/or Luke used “kingdom of God.” Clearly, the two phrases refer to the same thing.

source: https://www.gotquestions.org/kingdom-heaven-God.html

(I don't use any site because I agree with its doctrine..but because they explain something well and simple language so that there's not pages and pages to read.)
Well Nathaniel was to see Kingdome of God and the Kingdom of Heaven right as Jesus said it to him, that he would and it was because he was a "True Israelite" and a true Israelite does in fact recognise who Jesus Christ truly is and that's a Biblical fact that many do not pick up on and it's a foundation stone.

Israel means "Servant of God" and if one was truly such then one would recognise Jesus Christ for who he truly is in fact !
If one was not a Servant of God then such would not come to know Jesus Christ would they ? so just because one may claim to be Israel are they truly ? or in another way the tribe of Israel what does that mean, well it does not mean that everyone is an Israel (servant of God) but only one under that Tribe and not everyone is equal in any tribe or nation are they, but only equal under God.
Who was equal to Holy Moses ? or the others ? no not everyone is the same as Satan would have you believe. if everyone was the same where would Holy Moses be ? well he would be like them who created the Golden Calf wanted or forced him to be, now is that not so ? now Holy Moses was leading them out of slavery and the Golden Calf worshipers wanted to fall back into worshiping Idols and idols are what enslaves the mind, so that is like a dog going back to it's vomit. Holy Moses rejected them and they tried to kill him, because such were of there Father of murderers like Cain and like St Stephen who was full of the Holy Spirit pointed out and got murdered for telling the truth about the Jewish history. because it offended the sharks within who were not of God but of there Father of lies and Murders from the beginning.

Such people dominate religions and work to undermine the truth, leading people astray and that was the case with the Jews leadership was corrupted and that such a mob had taken over Gods Vineyard and God sent his prophets and this mob killed them and then he sent his Son to Vomit them out of the Land and this took place, so when Jesus Christ came the Mob were out and the true Israel Jews followed Jesus Christ and became what is known as Christians, that's correct it was Israelite Jews that were the first Christians and that's a fact and as for the goyim that's just a side dish.
The fact is that a true Israelite is a Christian and that Jesus Christ is the King if Israel, so he is the king of the servants of God (Israel) as Holy Moses said of him to come.
So why would one who truly knows who he serves listen to anyone who try's to tempt him with any other. like all this BS about idolising ignorant Jews of today let alone so called Jews and all that total BS, such is in fact a rejection of Jesus Christ, why would one go back to such a vomit, it's just madness. they do not have Christ Jesus in them, because if they did they would understand that no one comes to the Father but through his 'only' Son Jesus Christ.
There is only one Son, one Jesus Christ, never another. only idiots make claims of Jesus coming again in the flesh, when he comes he comes again it is in his Majesty it's the Holy Spirit that will come upon you, that's what coming in the Clouds means and we shall meet him in the Air.
Coming in the Clouds means coming in his Majesty.
We shall meet him in the Air means in the Holy Spirit.
So we are to see his Majesty in the Holy Spirit, through the Holy Spirit, because Jesus Christ is the Holy Spirit and the Trinity confirms this fact.
Bible points out that if one says see there he is in the flesh or there he goes, it's not our Jesus Christ at all. he came and did all that he had to do and it's just up to us to abide and do his will, end of story.
 

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In John 3:3 Jesus says:
3Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

Jesus was speaking to Nicodemus and telling him what it meant to be born from above; some bibles say, born again.

What did Jesus mean that one could not see the Kingdom of God unless he was born again?
Where is the Kingdom of God?
Is it on earth?
In heaven?
In us?



Mark 1:15
15“The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”

In Luke 4:43 Jesus proclaimed what He believed to be His mission:
43But He said to them, “I must preach the kingdom of God to the other cities also, for I was sent for this purpose.”

In fact, Jesus spoke much more about the Kingdom of God than of being born again.
So, what exactly did He mean in Luke 4:43?

Luke 4:43 say's to me that the Kingdom of God is The Gospel Of Jesus Christ.
"And he said unto them, I must preach the kingdom of God to other cities also: for therefore am I sent." And as Jesus sends His disciples to teach His words, and His words are the Gospel itself...IMO...the Gospel/Kingdom is within us...if we believe on His name, repent and agree we are sinners, then IMHO-one is saved. It's His Love that He wants us to see when we look at others...it's His Love that draws us...it's His love ♥ JMO!!!!!
 

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Hi RB,
The terms Kingdom of God and Kingdom of Heaven could be used interchangeably.
They could also mean right here right now, and also the New Jerusalem of which Revelation 11:15 speaks.

And the Kingdom of God is truly earthbound as we find in the Lord's Prayer.
Your Kingdom Come
Your will be done
On earth
As it is in heaven

Jesus wills that God's Kingdom in heaven, also descend to the earth.
This is what Jesus meant when He announced in Mathew 4:17 to repent because the Kingdom of God was at hand. In Mathew 3:2 John the Baptist proclaims the same message... repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand.

This article explains how the terms are used in all 4 gospels.
Thanks for an interesting post.

For example, speaking to the rich young ruler, Christ uses “kingdom of heaven” and “kingdom of God” interchangeably. “Then Jesus said to his disciples, ‘I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven’” (Matthew 19:23). In the very next verse, Christ proclaims, “Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God” (verse 24). Jesus makes no distinction between the two terms but seems to consider them synonymous.

Mark and Luke used “kingdom of God” where Matthew used “kingdom of heaven” frequently in parallel accounts of the same parable Compare Matthew 11:11-12 with Luke 7:28; Matthew 13:11with Mark 4:11 and Luke 8:10; Matthew 13:24 with Mark 4:26; Matthew 13:31 with Mark 4:30and Luke 13:18; Matthew 13:33 with Luke 13:20; Matthew 18:3 with Mark 10:14 and Luke 18:16; and Matthew 22:2 with Luke 13:29. In each instance, Matthew used the phrase “kingdom of heaven” while Mark and/or Luke used “kingdom of God.” Clearly, the two phrases refer to the same thing.

source: https://www.gotquestions.org/kingdom-heaven-God.html

(I don't use any site because I agree with its doctrine..but because they explain something well and simple language so that there's not pages and pages to read.)
Awesome post GG...good scripture, and it should put the question of Kingdom of God or Heaven to rest IMO...and your's too :)
 
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In John 3:3 Jesus says:
3Jesus answered and said to him, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

Jesus was speaking to Nicodemus and telling him what it meant to be born from above; some bibles say, born again.

What did Jesus mean that one could not see the Kingdom of God unless he was born again?
Where is the Kingdom of God?
Is it on earth?
In heaven?
In us?



Mark 1:15
15“The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel.”

In Luke 4:43 Jesus proclaimed what He believed to be His mission:
43But He said to them, “I must preach the kingdom of God to the other cities also, for I was sent for this purpose.”

In fact, Jesus spoke much more about the Kingdom of God than of being born again.
So, what exactly did He mean in Luke 4:43?



Seeing the kingdom requires a spiritual faculty of seeing. There are a number of spiritual senses such as perceiving, hearing and seeing. We are to become spiritual in Christ...which means we can operate in both realms as the same time...like Jesus did here on Earth.
The gospel is about opening up a new spiritual kind of life to mankind...which is eternal. This is the eternal life we are to " believe" into.