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ChristisGod

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You shouldn’t need any of this if you are Born Again..do you know you are actually worshipping your commentaries more than you worship the Living God.

No wonder you lack spirit knowledge, your obsessed with commentaries you are addicted to them.

You should be addicted to being led through scripture by the Holy Spirit.

You worship ,a false god that false god is “ COMMENTARIES “ for heavens sake open up your heart to the Lord...he’s waiting..
Exactly one should be able like a good Berean to search the scriptures. Precept upon precept , scripture interprets scripture.

2 Timothy 3:16- All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
 
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Exactly one should be able like a good Berean to search the scriptures. Precept upon precept , scripture interprets scripture.

2 Timothy 3:16- All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness,
I think I’m done on this thread, unless EG comes back...
 
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1 Corinthians 5:11-13 (ESV):
"But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. 'Purge the evil person from among you.'"

2 Thessalonians 3:6 (ESV):
"Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from any brother who is walking in idleness and not in accord with the tradition that you received from us."

2 Thessalonians 3:14-15 (ESV):
"If anyone does not obey what we say in this letter, take note of that person, and have nothing to do with him, that he may be ashamed. Do not regard him as an enemy, but warn him as a brother."

Romans 16:17-18 (ESV):
"I appeal to you, brothers, to watch out for those who cause divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that you have been taught; avoid them. For such persons do not serve our Lord Christ, but their own appetites, and by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive."

1 Corinthians 15:33 (ESV):
"Do not be deceived: 'Bad company ruins good morals.'"

These passages emphasize the importance of maintaining spiritual purity and avoiding close fellowship with believers who persist in unrepentant sin or who are causing division within the church. The goal is not condemnation but restoration and preservation of the integrity of the church community.

Ephesians 5:11 (ESV):
"Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them."

1 Timothy 6:5 (ESV):
"...and constant friction among people who are depraved in mind and deprived of the truth, imagining that godliness is a means of gain."

2 John 1:10-11 (ESV):
"If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not receive him into your house or give him any greeting, for whoever greets him takes part in his wicked works."

Titus 3:10-11 (ESV):
"As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned."

Matthew 18:15-17 (ESV):
"If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector."

These verses emphasize the importance of maintaining holiness, avoiding participation in sinful activities, and handling disputes and disagreements within the church community with wisdom and accountability.

--the accuser of the brethren and I have more respect for Epi than you little man.
Nothing wrong with studying the Word with commentaries. Anyone listen to a pastor? He starts you out reading the Word, and then elaborates on it.
I would loved to hear sermons from Matthew Henry. But the only way that is possible is the read the verse(s), and read his comments.
 

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No you did not!..you said it was the cross..
No I did not.

But you would not know. You never listen
The imperishable seed is what we are Born Again of, that seed is the Holy Spirit
No it is Christ. Christ died, the HS did not
You said “ me” was Born Again remember..
I said I was born again.

ME was born again is bad language..
I’m going to search for that post where you said the seed was the cross.
I said the seed was many things. But th cross is the basis of it

Are you denying the cross is the means of redemption?
 

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Nothing wrong with studying the Word with commentaries. Anyone listen to a pastor? He starts you out reading the Word, and then elaborates on it.
I would loved to hear sermons from Matthew Henry. But the only way that is possible is the read the verse(s), and read his comments.
Correct but it should not be one’s primary source. It should be used after one studies on their own and compare their findings with other respected theologians.
 
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You shouldn’t need any of this if you are Born Again..do you know you are actually worshipping your commentaries more than you worship the Living God.

No wonder you lack spirit knowledge, your obsessed with commentaries you are addicted to them.

You should be addicted to being led through scripture by the Holy Spirit.

You worship ,a false god that false god is “ COMMENTARIES “ for heavens sake open up your heart to the Lord...he’s waiting..
If you had any discernment you would have picked up this is not "commentary" but proper exegesis-not only don't you feel the need to read your Bible but you are too lazy to even study your Bible that the eyes of your understanding MAY be enlightened, Subjunctive Clause!

You quote passages, but not willing to give your understanding of it-that's "commentary!"
I have plenty commentaries on my E sword but don't have to use them-how can the Holy Spirit open the Scriptures to you if you don't read or study your Bible? And then make it applicable in your life and grow into the knowledge of Jesus Christ and your style of life slowly being conformed to that of Christ Jesus-into His Imagode/Tselem?

Stay in your lane, and I will stay in mine since I have no more desire to have a conversation with you. You are wasting my precious time online in real time, a ship tossed to and fro on the wild sea--
 

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Are you saying the Bible cuts through your heart?
THE WORDS IN THE BIBLE
What gives you hope the Bible?
WHAT GIVES ME HOPE IS CHRIST. I SEE ThE WORDS IN SCRIPTURE ANd HE CONFIRMS HIMSELF

Now tell me I have not answered you again!!
Sorry, these questions are important.
No they are not.

What are they going to do. Prove you right? Only scripture can prove you right, if what you say does not line up with scripture. We must reject your words.
 

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You can go a bit deeper @Eternally Grateful -just a "tad"--this will be misunderstood.

Greek Text and Exegesis:
The phrase "Scripture is the imperishable seed" can be understood with reference to several key passages in the New Testament that emphasize the enduring nature and transformative power of God's Word.

Key Passage: 1 Peter 1:23 (ESV)
ἀναγεγεννημένοι οὐκ ἐκ σπορᾶς φθαρτῆς ἀλλὰ ἀφθάρτου, διὰ λόγου ζῶντος θεοῦ καὶ μένοντος εἰς τὸν αἰῶνα.

Morphology and Syntax Analysis:
λόγου (logou): Genitive singular masculine of λόγος (logos), meaning "word" or "message".

ζῶντος (zōntos): Present active participle of ζάω (zao), meaning "living" or "alive". It describes the nature of the Word as currently living or alive.

ἀφθάρτου (aphthartou): Genitive singular masculine of ἄφθαρτος (aphthartos), meaning "imperishable" or "incorruptible". It denotes something that cannot decay or perish.

Exegesis:
Scripture as Seed: The concept of Scripture being the imperishable seed is metaphorical, drawing from agricultural imagery where seed represents the beginning or source of life (Luke 8:11; Mark 4:14). Here, the seed metaphorically represents the Word of God, which initiates spiritual rebirth and transformation in believers.

Imperishable Nature: The term "imperishable" (ἀφθάρτου) emphasizes the eternal and indestructible quality of God's Word. It contrasts with perishable or corruptible things and underscores the enduring impact and relevance of Scripture throughout time.

Living Word: The phrase "living and abiding" (ζῶντος θεοῦ καὶ μένοντος) highlights the dynamic and enduring nature of God's Word. It is not merely a historical document but a living revelation that continues to speak to believers and effect change in their lives.

Practical Application:
Understanding that Scripture is the imperishable seed encourages believers to engage with God’s Word continually. It is through Scripture that faith is cultivated, spiritual growth occurs, and lives are transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit. As believers meditate on and apply the Word of God, they experience its life-giving power and become equipped to live according to God’s will.

This exegesis underscores the foundational role of Scripture in the Christian faith, portraying it not only as a historical record but as a living, imperishable seed that bears fruit in the lives of those who receive it with faith and obedience.




1. Luke 8:11 (ESV)
"Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of God."

Exegesis: In the Parable of the Sower, Jesus explicitly identifies the seed as the word of God. This seed is sown into various types of soil (representing different hearts or responses to God's word) and produces fruit accordingly. The implication is that the word of God is not only sown but has the power to bring forth spiritual life and growth.

2. James 1:18 (ESV)
"Of his own will he brought us forth by the word of truth, that we should be a kind of firstfruits of his creatures."

Exegesis: James describes believers being "brought forth" or born again through the word of truth, emphasizing the regenerative power of God's word. This mirrors the concept of the imperishable seed bringing forth new life in Christ.

3. Matthew 13:23 (ESV)
"As for what was sown on good soil, this is the one who hears the word and understands it. He indeed bears fruit and yields, in one case a hundredfold, in another sixty, and in another thirty."

Exegesis: This verse continues the theme of the Parable of the Sower, illustrating that when the seed (the word of God) falls on good soil (receptive hearts), it produces abundant fruit. It highlights the transformative impact of God's word when received with understanding and faith.

4. Hebrews 4:12 (ESV)
"For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart."

Exegesis: Hebrews portrays the word of God as living and active, emphasizing its penetrating power and ability to discern the deepest thoughts and intentions of the heart. This characterization underscores the dynamic and transformative nature of Scripture.

5. Psalm 119:105 (ESV)
"Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path."

Exegesis: Psalm 119 extols the virtues of God's word, portraying it as a guiding light in life. This imagery suggests that Scripture provides direction, clarity, and wisdom for navigating life's challenges and making decisions in accordance with God's will.


These passages collectively reinforce the biblical concept of Scripture as the imperishable seed, emphasizing its role in spiritual birth, growth, transformation, guidance, and discernment. They underscore the timeless and enduring nature of God's word, which continues to impact and shape the lives of believers throughout history. As Christians engage with Scripture, they are nourished, strengthened, and equipped for living out their faith in obedience to God.

Shalom
Johann.
In the begining was the WoRD (LOGOS) and the WORD (LOGOS) was God and the WORD (LOGOS) was with God
 
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I don’t understand this exegete business you keep asking me to do Johan.
Johann please,
When Paul or James or John are trying to explain something, PLEASE don't use what they write, for they are commenting on things, and we should rely on our own Spirit to tell us things without help of the Apostles.
 
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Johann please,
When Paul or James or John are trying to explain something, PLEASE don't use what they write, for they are commenting on things, and we should rely on our own Spirit to tell us things without help of the Apostles.
Lol!!
 
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