This is such a good teaching! I learned several things about the The Spiritual Gifts from it.
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Ritajanice
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Supernatural faith, that makes it special, for me, mind Blowing also.
To be gifted the supernatural gift of faith, to one’s heart, when I was baptised in the Spirit/ Born Again..has been the biggest Honour and privelage,to know God in one’s heart is, as I said earlier, mind Blowing .
Our testimonies should Glorify God and his supernatural powers, which are beyond our comprehension,..not our intellectual knowledge of scripture ...which just puffs us up.
Spiritual Knowledge starts in the heart...there it will grow..it doesn’t get any better than that, a heart that is right before the Lord.imo of course.
2:25), faith is also a supernatural gift of God. Ephesians 2:8–9 affirms this: “By grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
One imo doesn’t realise how weak human faith is, compared to the gift of supernatural faith... on saying that...we have to come to understanding Gods gift of faith, we also have to exercise our faith...33years it’s taken for me to understand supernatural faith...God is in control of every area of our lives, let him lead us through our life, fully surrender to his will/ways..that was the key for me..forever learning in the spirit..just my thoughts.
I’m still listening to his teaching, so far I’m understanding in the spirit.
Tell us what you have learned about the spiritual gifts, I’m intrigued to know.?
Ps...Love, love ..his teaching, it’s all about the Spirit and the supernatural faith that God gifts to us.
To Glorify HIS NAME!!!...my heart yearns to know the heart of God, more and more.in Jesus Name..Amen!
Thank you so much for posting, this is a strong man of God, i have subscribed to his channel.
To be gifted the supernatural gift of faith, to one’s heart, when I was baptised in the Spirit/ Born Again..has been the biggest Honour and privelage,to know God in one’s heart is, as I said earlier, mind Blowing .
Our testimonies should Glorify God and his supernatural powers, which are beyond our comprehension,..not our intellectual knowledge of scripture ...which just puffs us up.
Spiritual Knowledge starts in the heart...there it will grow..it doesn’t get any better than that, a heart that is right before the Lord.imo of course.
2:25), faith is also a supernatural gift of God. Ephesians 2:8–9 affirms this: “By grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
One imo doesn’t realise how weak human faith is, compared to the gift of supernatural faith... on saying that...we have to come to understanding Gods gift of faith, we also have to exercise our faith...33years it’s taken for me to understand supernatural faith...God is in control of every area of our lives, let him lead us through our life, fully surrender to his will/ways..that was the key for me..forever learning in the spirit..just my thoughts.
I’m still listening to his teaching, so far I’m understanding in the spirit.
Tell us what you have learned about the spiritual gifts, I’m intrigued to know.?
Ps...Love, love ..his teaching, it’s all about the Spirit and the supernatural faith that God gifts to us.
To Glorify HIS NAME!!!...my heart yearns to know the heart of God, more and more.in Jesus Name..Amen!
Thank you so much for posting, this is a strong man of God, i have subscribed to his channel.
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This man has a slew of teaching videos on his channel! He did a bunch of series too. I remember his verse by verse of the book of Genesis, wow! It was a loong series!
Ritajanice
Born-Again
Oh forgot this part, lol.
That there are different types of gifts, they're not all classified the same types. Like manifistation gifts, I thought I was a tower of faith when I had faith for some some pretty far fetched things and yet it manifested as an answer to ny prayer. But it wasnt me at all, or not much, it was the Holy Spirit giving me the gift of faith to believe for something specific because He knew I didnt have enough faith to believe on that yet!
And one time I prayed for more faith, thinking it would be a gift, but I asked the wrong way and didnt ask for the gift of faith to believe, I just asked God to increase my faith...(wrong prayer!), I got dumped on with so many trials and tribulations that it was not pretty! Oh I did come out of it with more faith, but t wasnt easy. But some things happened that were very good, no tribulations at all, just blessings!
You have to be careful how you pray. One time I asked the Lord to teach me how to love others that same way that H loves me...And it was almost overnight that I had the most obnoxious idividual of the neighbrohood sitting in my living room. Wow. That must be how Jesus feels when He is trying to love His people and they shun him.
And that bit about one time use supernatural faith that he spoke about. I think I got this before as a gift for a situation, and it went away after that but I thought I was losing faith because it wasnt there anymore. And of course my carnal mind would try to argue with me that, that wasnt a real miracle, it was this or that, but I always tell him to shut up because we all seen it. So Pator Allen opened my eyes to what happened.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
That teaching spoke to me so much that I felt compellrd to share it. I'm glad it spoke to you to.
That's what he was talking about at one point, that the Holy Spirit can give you a supernatural faith to believe for something specific in a specific situation that Holy Spirit knows that you dont have enough faith for to begin with. So He supernatually gives you increased faith to believe in what you need/praying for. Like the momma who was in a car wreck and her child is pinned underneath...she knows she cant lift that car, but there is no there to help, so she grits her teeth and walks over and picks that car up! The momma might not even have been a believer, and she still did it through the combonation of fervency of spirit and compassionst God which hears it, so gifts her with the faith to do that. The child was ok and the next weekend, she tried lifting a car again and she couldnt do it! It's literally a one time use gift of faith and totally
I think Pastor Allen gave some examples from scripture in this vid? The woman with the issue of Blood for 12 yrs or whatever? Jesus hadnt even done His work on the cross yet so the price had not been paid yet or anything...and that lady with the issue of blood reached forward through time to the coming time of the price of redemption being paid and the Comforter coming and all that...and brought it back to her time and claimed. She made a declaration out loud, she spoke it (some translations say she thought to herself but that is a bad translation, she spoke it) if I can but touch his garment I shall be made whole...and since that was within Gods will and was the next promise He was going to fulfill anyway (!!!) He said Gift that woman and say yes to her Faith! SOmething came over that woman...all I have to do, and that was a verbal declaration of Faith, and that's what God responds to! So she was made whole. She was sort of a Time Traveler, lol!
You can stay walking in the spirit and not have enough faith to do certain things. And you have to have more than faith. You must have Belief also. In the original language the word Believe has an action connotation to it. She performed and action with her mouth which made the belief present. She expected results if I can just get a little closer! And I think that it must have to do with you have not because you ask not? All who ask receive. If you but believe. Walk in it like you say.
I think we can exercise our faith by continually believing for more to happen than last time. Scripture says the fervant prayers of a righteous man vaileth much. Being fervant in spirit is usually happening when there is a crisis for someone. Lord I need help, Right Now! I think the more fervant we get within ourselves, the less we have to speak for Him to hear us. The momma who's child was pinned under the wreckage of a car had to be bubbling over with fervancy. Try anyway and reach out for help! Nothing is spoken but the fervancy of her spirit is heard by God and is her believing in something more than herself. She had no other and perhaps didnt even know the Lord yet. But the Lord heard her anguish and fervancy and said, That's Me! And saved the child by making her Samson for a moment!
It's convoluted but it's all true. I talked with the Lord on these things before and He opened up my eyes to some things about faith. He told me most people think too small when it comes to faith. We have the same commission that the Apostles did. Raise the dead, cast out demons, heal the sick, all of that stuff. We're supposed to be walking in it, pondering it, stepping out in it and trying to use our faith to help someone. No one needs a healing ministry to heal people. And sometimes those who do have healing ministry's get the gift of faith in certain situations only. One time use faith! A supernatural gift and a Blessing. Praise the Lord! He is so good to us if we let Him and Believe in Him!
And that's why abiding in Him is so important. So try to remember to step out in faith in a wee bit bigger way than you did yesterday. :)
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Ritajanice
Born-Again
Thank you Sister, sometimes I get to writing and just keep going and I figured I post too long. But I cant help it because this christianity thing is way bigger and way more spiritual and real than they taught us.
Jesus did a miracle at the temple. But there aint no temple no more. We have become the Temple ourselves. It is the Lord's Temple! The temple was laid out in three parts. The outer court, then the inner court, then the Holy of Holies. We have the same thing within ourselves. Outer court, inner court, Holy of Holies. Body, soul, and spirit?
The day is coming and is already here where must worship the Lord our God in spirit and in truth. Our spirit must be our Holy Of Holies then? and our soul (combined with our heart?) is the inner court? The body would then be the outer court. When we read the word of God, we enter into the inner court (I think) and I think that is where all the studying and praying and drawing closer to God happens in the temple. When we pray to the Lord we prolly also enter the inner court. And perhaps depending on the duration and fervancy of the prayer decides when the spirt is engaged, us thru the prayer, the Holy Spirit thru our spirit.
One time I tried to move a mountain and cast it into sea, but it didnt work, lol. Now maybe I have a clue why not? That takes supernatural faith. And it would have been a dumb move so I'm glad it didnt happen, but I was about as far away from fervancy that I could get. I thought about it reall quick. There might be houses up there, maybe people camping? WHo knows? I wasnt trying to hurt anybody I had misgivings about it as soon as I said it so there was no belief and there was no supernatural gift of faith, one time use! Wow! Moses got the gift at the red sea! David got it before he walked out in front of Goliath and said hey Boy...! It might be true that the Comforter had not given officially yet, but that doesnt mean that the Holy Spirit wasnt busy with lots of folks in His own way. The Holy Spirit tells us when to use it when it happens. I've heard about Pastors and one service the guy is told by the Holy Spirit to go over and heal that man in the wheelchair, so he does and then preaches his sermon. The next week the place was jam packed with people in wheelchairs and he didnt even try to heal anybody. Someone asked him why didnt you heal all those people? and he said because God didnt tell me to! And God didnt tell me to try to move a mountain! That was my idiotic idea, lol.
Ritajanice
Born-Again
We make this soooo much more complicated than it needs to be!
In this example of "The Gift of Faith", the important thing is to understand that faith comes from hearing a word from our Lord Jesus Christ.
Rom 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.
And since we call Jesus Christ our Lord we need to be seeking what He has to say to us. So concerning the gift of faith, if you simply listen to Him and He tells you something you will have an increase in faith to believe for what He told you. Essentially the gift of faith is nothing more than listening to Him by faith!
It is like this: a person tells themselves they believe Jesus Christ is there to be heard from so they ask Him what He has to say to them. He then speaks to them by sending His Holy Spirit to their spirit with His words for them. The believer picks them on in their heart/spirit, and then believes it is the Lord speaking to them, because they asked for Him to speak to them, and that gives the believer the faith to believe for what was told them. So the gift was the words the Holy Spirit gave to their spirit.
For example: When the Lord had me working in a Christian healing ministry people would come in for prayer and we would pray for the request they had. So if a person came in with a knee that was hurting them we would certainly pray for their knee. And often we saw the Lord heal them. Yet people also came in with problems they did not tell us about, but the Lord would. So if a person came in with a knee that was hurting them, they Lord often would tell us that. We would asked them about the knee, then get the confirmation from them and pray accordingly.
Therefore those praying might be said to have a gift of healing because the Lord had them in that healing ministry, but also we got extra faith to believe for somethings because we specifically heard from the Lord. Was that a gift of healing, since we were there for healing purposes, or was it a gift of knowledge because He specifically gave us some knowledge about the knee that we did not know about, or was it a gift of faith because faith comes from hearing and we heard about the issue that needed to be prayed for? Have we not read:
1 Cor 14:1 Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts, ...
It reads to desire earnestly the spiritual gifts - thereby not excluding any of them. And how can it? If we are born again do we not have access to the Holy Spirit and all the words our Lord has to tell us? And so then all the power of God to back up what the Lord our God tells us. So if we need a teaching, He can give it to us. Is we need a word of knowledge, He can give it to us. He we need a word of wisdom He can give it to us. If we need to pray, but we don't know the words, He can give them to us even if we don't know what we are saying. If we need to ask for healing He can tell us. If we need to believe more for that healing, He can tell us what He specifically needs us to pray for also. And if He needs to tell someone a bit of prophecy, He can do that too.
Therefore we have access to all the gifts at anytime because we have access to the Holy Spirit, but who will believe that and desire to hear from Him?
In that healing ministry we often got people coming in looking to pray for what those coming in asked for. And they often saw the Lord heal them. I too was like that when i started in that ministry. So what that ministry did was get people to listen to the Lord, and their faith in the Lord grew. So at the end of the time (five years) I was seeing more people healed because the Lord had spoken to me about an issue than I was by simply praying for what those coming in were asking about. It turned out that most of the people (Christians) coming into the ministry did not even believe in the Lord enough to tell us about the physical issues they had.
I am reminded of the time when an elderly couple came in for prayer. I was working that night with the pastors wife (an incredible woman of God) and she was about to start praying for them when the Lord started telling me over and over about the man's knee, and then about the man's knees. And the Lord was telling me that the man had a problem with his knee and knees. So before the pastor's wife got to praying I stopped the proceedings to ask the man about his knee or knees. It turned out that he was going in for knee surgery later that week. They had not put that down in the prayer request. And to make it more interesting, about a month later the couple was back because while the surgery went great, he now was going to go in for his other knee also, which we now found out has also been bothering him.
The point is that we have access to all the gifts of the Spirit if we simply understand that we have access the Holy Spirit who is sent with the words of our Lord Jesus Christ!!!! It is that simple!
Jn 6:63 “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.
Indeed, the biggest gift we get from our Lord Jesus Christ via the Holy Spirit is life, or sometimes referred to as the gift of God, because we have access to the Lord our God, Jesus (God's salvation) the Christ!!
Is that not really what we are talking about when we talk about the gift of faith? Yet who wants to listen to Him and for what?
Frankly, at the end of the five years that He had asked me to work in the ministry He told me I had completed the time that He had asked me to work in it. He told me I could continue if I wanted. I didn't. Oh, I still can hear Him tell me that someone needs some healing, and so occasionally do wind up praying for healing according to what He tells me, but not so much anymore. The last time was about 3 or four months ago, when it used to be weekly. So it has a lot to do with "desire"! Do you desire the spiritual gifts or not?
1 Cor 14:1 Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts
If you have the Holy Spirit you have access to them - ALL!
In this example of "The Gift of Faith", the important thing is to understand that faith comes from hearing a word from our Lord Jesus Christ.
Rom 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of Christ.
And since we call Jesus Christ our Lord we need to be seeking what He has to say to us. So concerning the gift of faith, if you simply listen to Him and He tells you something you will have an increase in faith to believe for what He told you. Essentially the gift of faith is nothing more than listening to Him by faith!
It is like this: a person tells themselves they believe Jesus Christ is there to be heard from so they ask Him what He has to say to them. He then speaks to them by sending His Holy Spirit to their spirit with His words for them. The believer picks them on in their heart/spirit, and then believes it is the Lord speaking to them, because they asked for Him to speak to them, and that gives the believer the faith to believe for what was told them. So the gift was the words the Holy Spirit gave to their spirit.
For example: When the Lord had me working in a Christian healing ministry people would come in for prayer and we would pray for the request they had. So if a person came in with a knee that was hurting them we would certainly pray for their knee. And often we saw the Lord heal them. Yet people also came in with problems they did not tell us about, but the Lord would. So if a person came in with a knee that was hurting them, they Lord often would tell us that. We would asked them about the knee, then get the confirmation from them and pray accordingly.
Therefore those praying might be said to have a gift of healing because the Lord had them in that healing ministry, but also we got extra faith to believe for somethings because we specifically heard from the Lord. Was that a gift of healing, since we were there for healing purposes, or was it a gift of knowledge because He specifically gave us some knowledge about the knee that we did not know about, or was it a gift of faith because faith comes from hearing and we heard about the issue that needed to be prayed for? Have we not read:
1 Cor 14:1 Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts, ...
It reads to desire earnestly the spiritual gifts - thereby not excluding any of them. And how can it? If we are born again do we not have access to the Holy Spirit and all the words our Lord has to tell us? And so then all the power of God to back up what the Lord our God tells us. So if we need a teaching, He can give it to us. Is we need a word of knowledge, He can give it to us. He we need a word of wisdom He can give it to us. If we need to pray, but we don't know the words, He can give them to us even if we don't know what we are saying. If we need to ask for healing He can tell us. If we need to believe more for that healing, He can tell us what He specifically needs us to pray for also. And if He needs to tell someone a bit of prophecy, He can do that too.
Therefore we have access to all the gifts at anytime because we have access to the Holy Spirit, but who will believe that and desire to hear from Him?
In that healing ministry we often got people coming in looking to pray for what those coming in asked for. And they often saw the Lord heal them. I too was like that when i started in that ministry. So what that ministry did was get people to listen to the Lord, and their faith in the Lord grew. So at the end of the time (five years) I was seeing more people healed because the Lord had spoken to me about an issue than I was by simply praying for what those coming in were asking about. It turned out that most of the people (Christians) coming into the ministry did not even believe in the Lord enough to tell us about the physical issues they had.
I am reminded of the time when an elderly couple came in for prayer. I was working that night with the pastors wife (an incredible woman of God) and she was about to start praying for them when the Lord started telling me over and over about the man's knee, and then about the man's knees. And the Lord was telling me that the man had a problem with his knee and knees. So before the pastor's wife got to praying I stopped the proceedings to ask the man about his knee or knees. It turned out that he was going in for knee surgery later that week. They had not put that down in the prayer request. And to make it more interesting, about a month later the couple was back because while the surgery went great, he now was going to go in for his other knee also, which we now found out has also been bothering him.
The point is that we have access to all the gifts of the Spirit if we simply understand that we have access the Holy Spirit who is sent with the words of our Lord Jesus Christ!!!! It is that simple!
Jn 6:63 “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.
Indeed, the biggest gift we get from our Lord Jesus Christ via the Holy Spirit is life, or sometimes referred to as the gift of God, because we have access to the Lord our God, Jesus (God's salvation) the Christ!!
Is that not really what we are talking about when we talk about the gift of faith? Yet who wants to listen to Him and for what?
Frankly, at the end of the five years that He had asked me to work in the ministry He told me I had completed the time that He had asked me to work in it. He told me I could continue if I wanted. I didn't. Oh, I still can hear Him tell me that someone needs some healing, and so occasionally do wind up praying for healing according to what He tells me, but not so much anymore. The last time was about 3 or four months ago, when it used to be weekly. So it has a lot to do with "desire"! Do you desire the spiritual gifts or not?
1 Cor 14:1 Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts
If you have the Holy Spirit you have access to them - ALL!
Behold
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He teaches that the faith we have to believe in Jesus, is NOT the.. or A Supernatural Gift of Faith.
And thats True.
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