the week day of the crucifixion

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Goinheix

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In another thread in this Forum we were discussing wich day of the week Jesus was crucified. It was getting very clear that it happens on Friday.

Friday comes to be the only answer that fits with all four Gospels and the description of the passover fest by Moses.
 

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In another thread in this Forum we were discussing wich day of the week Jesus was crucified. It was getting very clear that it happens on Friday.

Friday comes to be the only answer that fits with all four Gospels and the description of the passover fest by Moses.


Thank the Lord He died for our sins. Which day? Who cares, He died and fulfilled all that was said about Him. We reap the benefits of His Death, salvation.
Praise the Lord.
charlesj
 

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Thank the Lord He died for our sins. Which day? Who cares, He died and fulfilled all that was said about Him. We reap the benefits of His Death, salvation.
Praise the Lord.
charlesj


I tell who care:

Matthew who have giving as all kind of times and dates all over his Gospels
Mark who gives us a lot of information concerning day, date and time in his Gospel.
Luke who did fill up his Gospel with a lot of data concerning days and hours.
John who did account his Gospel in a day by day basis giving us many datails on where and when all it happens.
The first christians who did study the Gospels and established the Friday as the crucifixion day.
The reformers who have study the Gospels to found out that the actual day was Thursday and not Friday.
The traditional christians who have fighted back the idea of a Thursday crucifixion.
Modern christians who have come with the new idea of a crucifixion on Wednesday.
Every scholar, pastor, bible teacher and regular christian that keep on saying that Jesus was crucified on Friday, Thursday or Wednesday.

Seems to me that actually, everybidy cares. And out of all christians, the one who more cares is you.
 

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I tell who care:

Matthew who have giving as all kind of times and dates all over his Gospels
Mark who gives us a lot of information concerning day, date and time in his Gospel.
Luke who did fill up his Gospel with a lot of data concerning days and hours.
John who did account his Gospel in a day by day basis giving us many datails on where and when all it happens.
The first christians who did study the Gospels and established the Friday as the crucifixion day.
The reformers who have study the Gospels to found out that the actual day was Thursday and not Friday.
The traditional christians who have fighted back the idea of a Thursday crucifixion.
Modern christians who have come with the new idea of a crucifixion on Wednesday.
Every scholar, pastor, bible teacher and regular christian that keep on saying that Jesus was crucified on Friday, Thursday or Wednesday.

Seems to me that actually, everybidy cares. And out of all christians, the one who more cares is you.

Hello Goinheix:
I use to argue this years ago (35 yrs ago??) and come to the fact that I thank the Lord for His death. Some argue Wednesday to get a Sabbath resurrection. As an ex-sabbath keeper I know the arguments etc. I am not sure why you are writing on this, but I do read it (as I do most posts) and sometimes I learn.

May the Lord be with us as we serve and honor Him,
charlesj

p.s. I am on vacation and have been since June 2nd. I am on the beach (Mustang Island State Park) so I may not answer right away. My wife and I should be here another two months. We do have Wi-Fi so I will look at my email etc.
thanks for your love for Christ.
 

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Hello Goinheix:
I use to argue this years ago (35 yrs ago??) and come to the fact that I thank the Lord for His death. Some argue Wednesday to get a Sabbath resurrection. As an ex-sabbath keeper I know the arguments etc. I am not sure why you are writing on this, but I do read it (as I do most posts) and sometimes I learn.

May the Lord be with us as we serve and honor Him,
charlesj

p.s. I am on vacation and have been since June 2nd. I am on the beach (Mustang Island State Park) so I may not answer right away. My wife and I should be here another two months. We do have Wi-Fi so I will look at my email etc.
thanks for your love for Christ.


I really, relly really really want to understand what is behind the Wednesday theory; wich heresy is being supported by that lie. Then we or I will be able to combat it more susesfull. Not that I didnt prove how wrong it is.
 

Goinheix

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Friday was the frist day to be believed as the day of the crucifixion.

The only fact that the church did bother to determine the day of the crucifixion is a good sign of how much important is that fact. We can read of many mythologic stories, but we can not say in wich week day or month date it happens. It is irrelevant because is just a myth. We dont know wich day or date did Jor-EL (Superman) landed as a baby on Earth. It is a ficticious story.

But the church did boder to figure out and they come with Friday. The reason is that in modern greek; the name for the sixth day of the week is the same as the word preparation. The sixth day of the week is the preparation for the comming sabbath. For this reason, the church did confuse preparation with Friday. The Gospels say that Jesus were crucified on a preparation day; and that was understood as being Friday.

How do we know if the word preparation was meaning just preparation or actually Friday? We have two clues. First of all Jesus said that he will be dead for 3 days and 3 nights. That makes impossible a crucifixion on Fri and a resurrection on Sun. In second place, Matthew 28:1 says "after the sabbaths" (that is in greek, not in KJV). Matthew means that before the first day of the week (Sunday) arrives, some sabbaths did pass. Also Matthew is making difference between the sabbath before Sunday (a weekly sabbath or Saturday) (28:1) and a High Sabbath mentioned in 27:62.

The new situation we have is a crucifixion on Thursday followed for the High Sabbath on Friday, and a weekly sabbath on Saturday. With this new situation we also can fit the 3 days and 3 nights. What about "in the thrid day"? For the third day we have to count Friday as the first day, since Jesus was placed in the sepulcre in the last minute of Thursday.

From them on; from the time some christians did demostrate enough interest to determine the actual day of the crucifixion; commencing that day it was a big controversial between the more traditional Friday and the more biblical Thursday.

How is Wednesday entering into the picture? That is what i wonder the most. Is it an Adventist teaching?
 

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I really, relly really really want to understand what is behind the Wednesday theory; wich heresy is being supported by that lie. Then we or I will be able to combat it more susesfull. Not that I didnt prove how wrong it is.


Hello again Goinheix:
Basically, the Sabbath keeper’s argue Wednesday was the day of crucifixion. They argue there were three days and three nights (72 hours) before resurrection. They will tell you “you can’t get 3 days and 3 nights by having Him crucified on Friday. They build a day as 12 hours and used John 11:9 where Jesus said, “…are not there twelve hours in a day?” Then they go back to Genesis and show a day to be light part and a night the darkness part which equals 24 hours.

There are two types of Sabbath keepers. One group holds that Sabbath is from sunset Friday to sunset Saturday. The other group (many here in Texas) use the John 11:9 as a proof text to only keep Sabbath DAY on the 7th day from sunrise to sunset. They also mention the farmer who hired men to work in his vineyard from the first hour to the eleventh hour and paid them the same wages for a day’s work (Matthew 20:1ff)


May He be with us as we serve Him,
charlesj
 

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Then I understand that the only reason for a Wednesday crucifixion is to support a Saturday resurrection.

Furtunatelly there is enough evidence in the Gospels to destroy that lie.
 

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Then I understand that the only reason for a Wednesday crucifixion is to support a Saturday resurrection.

Furtunatelly there is enough evidence in the Gospels to destroy that lie.

Hello again Goinheix:

I really don't care when He was crucified. Like I've said, I'm glad He was crucified for "our salvation."

The Sabbath keepers are very polished in this area and will counter with you with an argument. Groups like World Wide Church of God or the Reorganized Church of God (The Old Herbert and Garner Ted Armstrong groups) have long writings on the day of crucifixion as Wednesday. There are over 500 Sabbath keeping groups including the Mormon group in Independence, Mo. As an ex Sabbath keeper I used these arguments.

Here is the question a Sabbath keeper would ask you:
"If Jesus Was Crucified on Friday, How Was He Dead for Three Nights?"

Finis Dake, Dake’s bible, defends a Wednesday crucifixion.
Dake refers to many verses in support of his interpretation. If you happen to have a Dake’s Bible then take a look at his commentary on John 19:31. I’ve purchased his Bible somewhere around 1970.

From Dake Bible:
“Matt. 27:63 -- "...after three days I will rise again."
This shows how the Jews understood the three days and three nights of Matt. 12:40
Lev. 23:7 This verse refers to the special Sabbath two days before the weekly Sabbath.
Mat. 12:40 "For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly, so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth."
John 19:31 "...for that Sabbath day was an high day."
This is another reference to the special Sabbath.
Luke 9:22
Although this verse merely says that He will be raised on the third day, Dake gives another perspective on the three full days and three full nights interpretation:
• When days and nights are both mentioned, then it cannot be parts of three days, but full days and nights (Ester 4:16 with 5:1; 1 Sam. 30:12 with 13; Jonah 1:17 with Mat. 12:40). See also Rev. 11:9-11.
• The Jews understood Christ to mean "after three days" or three full days and three full nights (Matt. 27:63), hence the soldiers had orders to guard the tomb at least that long.
• It was the custom to mourn for the dead three full days and nights, called "days of weeping," which were followed by four "days of lamentation," thus making seven days (Gen. 27:41; 50:10; 1 Sam. 31:13; Job 2:13). According to rabbinical notion the spirit wandered about the sepulchre for three days hoping to re-enter the body, but when corruption set in the spirit left. This was believed to be on the fourth day when the loud lamentations began. Hence, on the fourth day Lazarus was supposed to stink (John 11:39).
• Herodotus testifies that embalmment did not take place until after three days when the spirit was supposed to be gone (Herod. ii. 86-89). This is why the women were taking sweet spices to anoint Jesus (Mk. 16:1; Lk. 24:1)
• The Jews did not accept evidence as to the identification of a dead body after three days, for corruption took place quickly in the East. Hence, this period of three full days and three full nights was wanted by God, so as to preclude all doubt that death had actually taken place, and shut out all suggestion that Christ might have been in a trance. Jews would legally have to conclude His death, should He remain dead the full three days and three nights.”

The Passover day is referred to as a “high day Sabbath.” (Jn 19:31) A high day Sabbath (Passover Day) could fall on any day of the week even the seventh day Sabbath. Your birthday falls on different days of the week every year and it was the same with the High Day Sabbath.
Dake refers to the "High Day Sabbath" as a "special Sabbath." It was one of the seven feast days the Jews celebrated.
When Jesus was crucified the next day was a “High Day Sabbath.” Lev 23:7 was a High Day Sabbath which was two days before the seventh day Sabbath.

May He bless us as we honor and serve Him,
charlesj
 

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the gospels plainly stipulate that he was crucified on the day before the sabboth and rose before dawn on the day after the sabboth. back then the sabboth day was saturday.

the question is;;; was he in the ground 3 days and 3 nights as he predicted? i get 2 nights and 1 day