Three days and three nights in the heart of the earth
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Ronald Nolette
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You are merely looking at math, not how the Jews reckoned time. Friday the 3-4 hours was one day to them
Saturday the 24 hours was one day to them.
Sunday from sunset Saturday until He rose was one day to them in determing time. that makes 3 days. Accept it even if the math doesn't add up for that is how they counted it.
Ronald Nolette
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No, I did not! That particular saturday began the feast of unleavened bread! Thursday night to Friday sunset was passover, and the day of preparation (removing the leaven from houses.
That particular Sabbath (Saturday) was a high Sabbath in that on that Saturday the Feast of Unleavened bread began.
John 19:31
The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away.
Read it using saturday for Sabbath.
...on Saturday, for that Saturday was a High Day......
I don't think you are realizing what my assertion is.
Friday the 3-4 hours was one day to them 1 day
Saturday the 24 hours was one day to them. 1 day + 1 night
Sunday from sunset Saturday until He rose was one day to them in determing time. 1 day
that makes 3 days. And you are missing 2 nights.
Jesus prophesied 3 days and 3 nights. Why do you suppose He said that? Could it have been to communicate that He would in fact rise after 3 days and 3 nights? Had He only said, "3 days", what you are suggesting could be true. It's like we'd say, "On the third day", no matter what time today it is, no matter what time it happens on the third day, we mean the day after tomorrow.
But this isn't that. Jesus was clear to specify that just like Jonah, it would be three days and three nights.
So I just take Jesus at His word, and it's all OK.
Much love!
Webers_Home
Well-Known Member
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A preponderance of textual evidence indicates Jesus' crucified dead body
was restored to life during the third day rather than after the third day was
over and done with. In other words, Jesus was deceased less than 72 hours.
Matt 17:22-23
Matt 20:18-19
Mark 9:31
Luke 9:22
Luke 18:33
Luke 24:5-8
Luke 24:21-23
Luke 24:46
John 2:19
Acts 10:40
1Cor 15:4
FAQ: What about Matt 27:63 and Mark 8:31? They say "after" the third day
rather than during the third.
REPLY: To begin with, those verses are outnumbered 11÷2.
Plus; the Greek word translated "after" is somewhat ambiguous. It can
indicate moments following the conclusion of an event, but it can also
indicate moments within an event. I suggest letting the 11÷2 majority
decide how best to interpret the intent of Matt 27:63 and Mark 8:31.
FAQ: Luke 24:21-23 says the morning that women came to the cemetery
was the third day. How can that be true when the sun wasn't up yet when
they arrived?
REPLY: The original Easter is a mite confusing due to a natural day following
close on the heels of a liturgical day.
Whereas liturgical days were a twenty-four hour amalgam of daytime and
nighttime; natural days consisted of only twelve hours of daytime. (John
11:9-10)
The day preceding the first day of the week was a sabbath (Matt 28:1)
which began at sunset Friday and ended at sunset Saturday. So that in
accord with liturgy the first day of the week began with sunset Saturday,
whereas in accord with nature it began with sunrise Sunday morning. I can't
advise folks how best to untangle the confusion resulting from mixing and
mashing liturgical days with natural days 'cause I can't even do it myself.
It's definitely a bit of a challenge.
FAQ: Can the hours of darkness during Jesus' crucifixion be counted as one
of the three nights?
REPLY: Jesus survived those hours. Matt 12:40 requires that he be dead and
buried.
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A preponderance of textual evidence indicates Jesus' crucified dead body
was restored to life during the third day rather than after the third day was
over and done with. In other words, Jesus was deceased less than 72 hours.
Matt 17:22-23
Matt 20:18-19
Mark 9:31
Luke 9:22
Luke 18:33
Luke 24:5-8
Luke 24:21-23
Luke 24:46
John 2:19
Acts 10:40
1Cor 15:4
FAQ: What about Matt 27:63 and Mark 8:31? They say "after" the third day
rather than during the third.
REPLY: To begin with, those verses are outnumbered 11÷2.
Plus; the Greek word translated "after" is somewhat ambiguous. It can
indicate moments following the conclusion of an event, but it can also
indicate moments within an event. I suggest letting the 11÷2 majority
decide how best to interpret the intent of Matt 27:63 and Mark 8:31.
FAQ: Luke 24:21-23 says the morning that women came to the cemetery
was the third day. How can that be true when the sun wasn't up yet when
they arrived?
REPLY: The original Easter is a mite confusing due to a natural day following
close on the heels of a liturgical day.
Whereas liturgical days were a twenty-four hour amalgam of daytime and
nighttime; natural days consisted of only twelve hours of daytime. (John
11:9-10)
The day preceding the first day of the week was a sabbath (Matt 28:1)
which began at sunset Friday and ended at sunset Saturday. So that in
accord with liturgy the first day of the week began with sunset Saturday,
whereas in accord with nature it began with sunrise Sunday morning. I can't
advise folks how best to untangle the confusion resulting from mixing and
mashing liturgical days with natural days 'cause I can't even do it myself.
It's definitely a bit of a challenge.
FAQ: Can the hours of darkness during Jesus' crucifixion be counted as one
of the three nights?
REPLY: Jesus survived those hours. Matt 12:40 requires that he be dead and
buried.
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Webers_Home
Well-Known Member
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● Matt 12:40 . . For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of
a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the
heart of the earth.
Now when you think about it; Jesus' remains weren't laid to rest in the heart
of the Earth; and in point of fact they weren't even buried in the Earth's soil.
They were laid to rest above the soil in a rock-hewn tomb. So the only way
that Jesus could be up on the surface of the Earth and down its interior
simultaneously was for he and his body to part company and go their
separate ways.
That isn't an unreasonable posit. According to Matt 10:28, the body is
perishable by most any means, whereas the soul is perishable only by divine
means. In other words; the deaths of body and soul aren't necessarily
simultaneous, viz: the soul lives on until such a time as God decides to give
it either a thumb up or a thumb down.
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● Matt 12:40 . . For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of
a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the
heart of the earth.
Now when you think about it; Jesus' remains weren't laid to rest in the heart
of the Earth; and in point of fact they weren't even buried in the Earth's soil.
They were laid to rest above the soil in a rock-hewn tomb. So the only way
that Jesus could be up on the surface of the Earth and down its interior
simultaneously was for he and his body to part company and go their
separate ways.
That isn't an unreasonable posit. According to Matt 10:28, the body is
perishable by most any means, whereas the soul is perishable only by divine
means. In other words; the deaths of body and soul aren't necessarily
simultaneous, viz: the soul lives on until such a time as God decides to give
it either a thumb up or a thumb down.
_
