"THE WORDS...ARE SPIRIT" version of understanding scripture.

[Ronald Nolette]

Good, I am glad that you understand the terms of your "savior!"

Because, as seen here below in post #6, that phrase you keep accusing me of--are your words--not mine. Which you have manifest as your own pet peeve, repeatedly making false accusations as a false witness against me--but more importantly against the "higher" "spiritual" ways of God (Isaiah 55:9, John 6:63). Which is therefore, all on you.


But since the purpose of this thread was to gain understanding, here are some passages you should look at:

• Set your mind on things above, not on things on the earth. Colossians 3:2
• For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory, 18 while we do not look at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen. For the things which are seen are temporary, but the things which are not seen are eternal. 2 Corinthians 4:18
• And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God. Romans 12:2
• Therefore He says: “Awake, you who sleep, Arise from the dead, And Christ will give you light.” Ephesians 5:14

Love all those verses and cherish them. Do you or their "higher spiritua;l meaning"?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

More accusations.

true though

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Yes, "serious" is exactly what this is.

I have done nothing but that which I was sent to do. None of which is mine, but His who sent me. "He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says."

I will also ask you a question: If you know the scriptures--what have I actually just said to you?

As soon as you list what you have doen to advance the kingdom, I will gladly tell you what I believe you said. I can't say what you actually

 

[amigo de christo]

Well, now you're just lying (again).

I have not concluded "things contradictory to the Word"--but only contradictory to your understanding of it. God knows.

As for your false witness (again and again)--this you will indeed answer for.

As for your teaching, as it is written, "by that same measure you use, it will be measured back to you."

and what do we say to ecumeincal intefaith of anti christ , HECK NO . now to the trenches one and all .
As i am SURE You do agree . Now to the trenches for we have us a real gospel to defend in these late
and last hours upon earth . We have entered into the labors of others and now must complete
the walk of our faith as all other sheep before us have done .
Do not be suprised scott , IF dire and harsh perseuctions come swiftly and quickly upon
even the true sheep IN THE WESTERN societies . FOR what i say to one i say to all
OUR betrayal and betrayer is at the door . We have lived a time of relative peace
but that is about TO SCREECH to a halt under the very laws of this inclusive god
that came to prepare the minds of the false religoins and the decieved within christendom
to this peak and last hour of all out rebellion against GOD and HIS CHRIST and the saints .
Well perseuction aint new . But will soon increase against all who do not and will not conform to the inclusive god

 

[Ronald Nolette]

It's like one of those aha moments.
I was pruning a rose bush one day in my yard. It had become so twisted and smothered with overgrown vines and leaves.
And all these verses started coming to mind concerning how God cleans up our lives, rooting out those things which keep us bound and dying.
So I would answer your question in this manner,
If when you receive a higher spiritual meaning and it agrees with the word of Lord,
It builds up and not tares down, and it moves your understanding towards a more perfect way.
Then that would be my standard that that very higher spiritual meaning comes from God.

I know you wasn't asking me, but I felt inclined to answer for myself.
Hugs

Thank you for a real answer and correct answer!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Is that why you resort to the lower case g?

No, I just forget to hiit the shift key. So get rid of any dark thoughts about it.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

With me, it is scripture that the Lord opens to my understanding. There has never been any contradiction with fundamental doctrine of Christ and Him crucified etc. However He has changed my understanding of certain things........for example regarding the Lord's coming and the "thousand year reign"......Jesus said His coming would not be such that one can say lo here He is or there, and He similarly said that His kingdom is not of this world that we may say lo here it is, or there, but is within us. Now that contradicts conventional teaching, but not scripture....it IS what scripture says, but I needed the Lord to take my blinders off and illuminate it so that I could SEE it. There are things that are plain as plain can be but we are blind to it.....veil of flesh/carnal mind can't perceive truth, especially when we have already imbibed false teachings.

The whole counsel of God.......it needs to agree with all of scripture. Even just in reading scripture, our understanding of any passage needs to agree with the rest of scripture, otherwise our understanding of the passage must be off. Also, knowing God and His character........He wouldn't do/say anything that is not in keeping with His character. Discernment is a learning and growing thing. The better we know and understand scripture and the better we know the Lord, the better our discernment will be. There is another way too if we are not sure about anything..........simply ask the Lord. He tells us if any lack wisdom to ask Him and He will give it without upbraiding. He has been true to His word and helped me out many times.

Then you and I are same souled concerning Scripture and what you just wrote! thank you for such a clear answer!

We may disagree on points, but precious saints have done that since the church was born.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

This obsession with the above statement you keep making is the crux of your great folly here.

First you put "higher spiritual meaning" in quotations--quoting only yourself, then you go about making accusations based on your own phrase. Based on that alone we all have good reason to dismiss anything and perhaps everything you say.

But realistically, the phrase is not actually incorrect, as God is "higher", "spiritual" and his word has "meaning" not always understood; and it is only given "precept upon precept, line upon line, here a little there a little", which is the cause of much of it needing to be explained--not as something "new" (as you say)--but as an established biblical pattern. Hence this thread.

You are so deluded. How do you fit your head through double doors pretending to know ones mind?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

We are 130+ posts in...and NO, it is you who has been abasing the scriptures referring to them as only carnal. From your very first post on this thread--and there are many--that has been a big part...oh, and "contradicting"...which you have only accused and name-dropped about without being specific.

SCott A. You are a liar! You have denigrated other believers and debased scriptures as only carnal. Once again if you wish I will go through both threads, find your insults against others and against the Word of God, but then demand you repent, and leave this forum to cease harming others and posting subtly crafted answers to avoid being specific, like what have yyou done since you received your higher spiritual meanings. You responded with the crafty answer of only what God has called you to dso. So tell us what has God called you to do specifically since you received your ".higher spiritual meanings"

I have mentioned people, as sources, not name dropping. And those men you would consider caqrnal by your very own definitions you have crowed about on these threads.

Unless you tell us all what things god has called you to do since you started receiving your "higher spiritual meanings". Please don't bother responding to me. YOu are so identical to many cultists in teh way you wriote.

 

[ScottA]

Love all those verses and cherish them. Do you or their "higher spiritua;l meaning"?

What's your question?

 

[ScottA]

As soon as you list what you have doen to advance the kingdom, I will gladly tell you what I believe you said. I can't say what you actually

You didn't finish your post. But no--although I have given you much--no special revelations for you.

 

[ScottA]

You are so deluded. How do you fit your head through double doors pretending to know ones mind?

More lashing out in hatred, more lying, more personal attacking--and why--because apparently you can't track even your own posts and certainly not all that is being brought to the table here...which is biblical, foretold to come and has come, as it is written--complete with scoffers. And it is all on record--revealed--here.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

More lashing out in hatred, more lying, more personal attacking--and why--because apparently you can't track even your own posts and certainly not all that is being brought to the table here...which is biblical, foretold to come and has come, as it is written--complete with scoffers. And it is all on record--revealed--here.

Because I suspect you are a phony! Not an unbeliever but one who is so puffed up you cannot see the forest for the trees. I track my posts and yours. If you had given direct and straight answers in teh beginning, we probably would not have clashed over two threads. But you obsfucate and dodge and give answers that give you wiggle room should you be cornered.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

You didn't finish your post. But no--although I have given you much--no special revelations for you.

That is not a special revelation. that is merely glorifying God by telling us how He used you, unless you are ashamed of your works

 

[Ronald Nolette]

What's your question?

Do you or your "higher spiritual meanikngs" have a different understanding of what they mean other than what is written?

I have the tag line of one of your book on amazon. The line said two errors from long ago have caused Christianity to fail.
Do you so not love the flocks of God that you charge $10 to reveal what these errors are that have enslaved so many according to you? I know thay myself and nearly all of the believers I know if we discovered a truth like that, we would be shouting it from the house tops, going to churches, being online listing in fine detail what these errors are that have enslaved so many people. For free.

 

[ScottA]

Still waiting for you to show what God has called you to do since you were caught up to the third heaven like Paul.

Why do you not tell us? Are you ashamed of what God has had you do? I rejoice and humbled hor God has used me over 53 years to glorify the Savior and bring people into a saving relationship with Him.

I have. I have said plenty. As for you--you can ask St. Peter at the gate.

 

[ScottA]

Because I suspect you are a phony! Not an unbeliever but one who is so puffed up you cannot see the forest for the trees. I track my posts and yours. If you had given direct and straight answers in teh beginning, we probably would not have clashed over two threads. But you obsfucate and dodge and give answers that give you wiggle room should you be cornered.

What you got--all you got from me--was from God.

 

[ScottA]

That is not a special revelation. that is merely glorifying God by telling us how He used you, unless you are ashamed of your works

What I have revealed, I have revealed to all--thousands of posts--and literally books of information. But, no, I am not going to give more to you.

 

[ScottA]

Do you or your "higher spiritual meanikngs" have a different understanding of what they mean other than what is written?

Line is upon line. "Every scribe instructed concerning the kingdom of heaven is like a householder who brings out of his treasure things new and old.”

 

[ScottA]

Hate to break it to you kreskin, but I have been cool, calm and collected in writing these answers. I am only telling you what god said to warn you of in the hopes you will leave this heretical path you walk on.

"Cool, calm and collective" while name-calling.