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heretoeternity said:
Sorry Heb but as you do not seem to believe God's word in the Bible, your prayers are not needed, as they will not be heard by God John 9.31...thanks anyway, but first you should learn:
Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and Commandments, NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of sunday, dec 25th and easter, all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origins.
You have to admit you're a sinner first to receive the free gift of salvation, then do his will. Matt 17:20
 

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Heb 13:8 said:
You have to admit you're a sinner first to receive the free gift of salvation, then do his will. Matt 17:20
How do you do His will? By keeping His commandments.. John 14.15 Jesus said "if you love me keep my Commandments" and in Matthew 19.17 He says 'to enter into life keep the Commandments' and He goes on to identify these as the Ten commandments of God....
Heb you got it partly right...you are making progress toward the truth..but remember always
Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments, NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of sunday, dec 25th and easter, all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origins.
 

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No it is not.

Gen_4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

How many thousand years was that before the law

Notably those who insist they can keep the law that no man can, the whole reason why Christ came, because no man was able, no HTE not even you.
Apostle John says you are a liar if you do not keep the law of God, His commandments 1st John...those who say they know Him and keep NOT His commandments are liars and the truth is not in them"...and "the commandments are not grievous"...
So John spells it out very clearly what you are if you do not follow His commandments..
and remember always
Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments, NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of sunday, dec 25th and easter all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origins.
 

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Apostle John says you are a liar if you do not keep the law of God, His commandments 1st John...those who say they know Him and keep NOT His commandments are liars and the truth is not in them"...and "the commandments are not grievous".
Yes we are all liars teh bible spells that out, even you, you should read your own posts. And you dont keep the law, taht is a lie.

All men are liars let God be true
 

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Yes we are all liars teh bible spells that out, even you, you should read your own posts. And you dont keep the law, taht is a lie.

All men are liars let God be true




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Speak for yourself, you know who you are right? Someone who is blinded and following the pagan Roman system and choses to ignore the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles in the Bible...that is typical people who are totally deceived, because they do not read the Bible for themselves but listen to some priest, or preacher preaching the false word of God...and they think they are very smart and are saved...got news for you, they think they are saved, but if they do not want to obey God, then their salvation is through who? If you do not want to repent from sins (transgression of God's law), then satan loves you...

You should know by now Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments, NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of sunday, dec 25thand easter all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origins.
 

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Speak for yourself, you know who you are right? Someone who is blinded and following the pagan Roman system and choses to ignore the teachings o
Its in that bible you so love, as for me sorry i belong to no religion,, God is not s reliigion neither is Jesus, our walk is in Faith not blibly following after mens fables, Whar are you so afraid of that you will not give Jesus a go. Relgion has saved no man, neither has the bible or the law. No one.
 

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It is obvious you do not follow the Bible, glad you admit it finally...now you should learn the truth and it will make you free as Jesus says in Matthew 8.32...

Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments, not the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of sunday, dec 25th and easter all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origins.
 

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t is obvious you do not follow the Bible, glad you admit it finally
No I follow Christ and God and the hleading ofthe Holy Spirit who are all in agreement, as for you, teh perfect example of why the bible is not the word of God, Look at the mess you are in, and adding religion on top, and what a mess mankind has made of our Lord and Gods good work for our salvation. So when people ask why is teh bible not the word of God, ill insist they read your post, I think they might get it.
 

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heretoeternity said:
It is obvious you do not follow the Bible, glad you admit it finally...now you should learn the truth and it will make you free as Jesus says in Matthew 8.32...
Underline: The only living source that sets you free is the loblood of Christ. law keeps one in bondage to Judaism and religion. Notice faith in Eph 3:12

Gal 2:4 [This matter arose] because some false brothers had infiltrated our ranks to spy on the freedom we have in Christ Jesus and to make us slaves.

Eph 3:12 In him and through faith in him we may approach God with freedom and confidence.

Heb 9:15 For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance--now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.

Rev 1:5 and from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth. To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood,
 

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How can you say your are "saved" or "forgiven" sins if you do not repent and keep on sinning? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds? Obviously you and MJR do not...as Apostle John said in 1st John "those who say they know Him and keep NOT His commandments are LIARS and the truth is not in them"...as Apostle James says in James 2 "faith without works is dead" and Paul says in Romans "do we sin more so grace abounds? God forbid...and "do we make void the law through faith? God forbid. We establish the law"...and Jesus said in Matthew 19.17 "to enter into life, keep the commandments" and He goes on to identify these as the ten commandments..
As you should be able to see from this the grace of God and forgiveness of sins is through Jesus sacrifice, after which one should want to obey God's commands, if they are truly saved...hope this helps you get on the narrow path that leads to salvation and God's eternal kingdom, as few shall find it, as Jesus said in Matthew 7..
 

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heretoeternity said:
How can you say your are "saved" or "forgiven" sins if you do not repent and keep on sinning?
Who says believers don't repent? What do you think the power of the Holy Spirit does? It convicts.

Then I heard a loud voice in heaven say:
“Now have come the salvation and the power
and the kingdom of our God,
and the authority of his Messiah.
For the accuser of our brothers and sisters,
who accuses them before our God day and night,

has been hurled down.
 

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sins if you do not repent and keep on sinning? Do you realize how ridiculous that sounds?
Oh you will sin in the flesh untill the day you die, only difference is you are already dead in your sin for you have forsaken grace for your own works, for teh law that you choose only brings death, as for us who are in Christ there is no condemnation for we have already being judged, sin condemned to the flesh and we set free to have life in teh one who is teh life and light of men. Jesus whom you choose to reject through your works, disregarding all that He has done for you. What you fail to comprehend amongst other things is that you can agree with the bible and be in complete oppostion to God as you sate when you add teh Law to grace as you insist on doping. Seems teh works of Jesus and God are not enough for many.
 

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MJR and Heb..your Roman based religion tells you,you do not need to repent and turn away from sin? Interesting, but false religion...repentance is part of the salvation process, as you should know by now.
and you must remember always:
Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments, NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of sunday, dec 25th and easter all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origins.
 

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MJR and Heb..your Roman based religion tells you,you do not need to repent and turn away from sin? Interesting, but false religion...repentance is part of the salvation process, as you should know by now.
and you must remember always:
Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments, NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days of sunday, dec 25th and easter all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origins.
Sorry to disapoint you HTE but i belong to no religion, Jesus is not religious unlike men

God's grace and commandments,
Now someone actually nay listen to you when you stop lying and adding works to grace.. That is in complete opposition to God and teh work of Jesus , Ie you are not agreeing with Him. Mind you, we dont expect any less from you. a stuck record still playing teh wrong tune.
 

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mjrhealth said:
Sorry to disapoint you HTE but i belong to no religion, Jesus is not religious unlike men

Now someone actually nay listen to you when you stop lying and adding works to grace.. That is in complete opposition to God and teh work of Jesus , Ie you are not agreeing with Him. Mind you, we dont expect any less from you. a stuck record still playing teh wrong tune.
mjrhealth said:
Sorry to disapoint you HTE but i belong to no religion, Jesus is not religious unlike men

Now someone actually nay listen to you when you stop lying and adding works to grace.. That is in complete opposition to God and teh work of Jesus , Ie you are not agreeing with Him. Mind you, we dont expect any less from you. a stuck record still playing teh wrong tune.
mjrhealth said:
Sorry to disapoint you HTE but i belong to no religion, Jesus is not religious unlike men

Now someone actually nay listen to you when you stop lying and adding works to grace.. That is in complete opposition to God and teh work of Jesus , Ie you are not agreeing with Him. Mind you, we dont expect any less from you. a stuck record still playing teh wrong tune.
What god or jesus are you following??? If you do not want to obey their words, you have to ask yourself that question...it maybe the god of this world which is satan right? The proof is do you want to follow God's commandments, yes or no? If no then you know the answer I am sure...
but Remember always:
Salvation is through the Son of God, God's grace and commandments (repentance), NOT the sungod/satan and his doctrines and days, all of which are non Biblical and of pagan origins.
 

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What god or jesus are you following
Why you so angry, if you where walking in teh truth you would not get mad, as for God and Jesus , i serve teh Living word who is Jesus Christ and God who is teh God of the lviing not the dead as for you when you too find teh truth who is Jesus Christ you too will be set free, but one whi has being in prison for so long freedom is a scary place.
 

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mjrhealth said:
Why you so angry, if you where walking in teh truth you would not get mad, as for God and Jesus , i serve teh Living word who is Jesus Christ and God who is teh God of the lviing not the dead as for you when you too find teh truth who is Jesus Christ you too will be set free, but one whi has being in prison for so long freedom is a scary place.
".... if you where walking in teh {sic} truth you would not get mad"? Jesus got mad (angry)....at the temple when he chased the money changers out also in Mark 3:5. He probably wasn't in a very good mood either when he called Peter satan. Jesus got mad/angry and he was walking in the truth...wasn't he?

Scripture says "In your anger do not sin" it doesn't say if you were walking in the truth you would not get angry. Scripture says opposite of what you are saying.
 

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Its as I said, if you where walking in teh truth you would not get nagry for you would not be so offended.

Joh 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Why do you think the ykilled Jesus.